WSJ Post-Debate Poll: Biden Up by 14

[Billy_Bob]

Well, Well... Isn't that special... A poll that over samples democrats by 15% that shows Biden winning by 14%....

YAWN,,,,,,,

 

[skews13]

It’s starting to look tough for Mr. Trump.

New poll by the highly-rated NBC/Wall Street Journal pollster (A minus FiveThirtyEight rating) has Biden up 53 to 39 percent among polled registered voters. This is an 8-point uptick for Biden since their prior poll.

As of a few minutes ago, this poll is not yet reflected in FiveThirtyEight’s compilation.

Highlights:

The biggest declines for Trump in the poll come from seniors (who are now backing Biden by a 62 percent-to-35 percent margin) and suburban women (58 percent to 33 percent).
And men 50 years and older moved from a 13-point advantage for Trump in the pre-debate NBC News/WSJ poll, to a 1-point advantage for Biden in this latest poll.

Biden's national lead over Trump jumps to 14 points after debate in new NBC News/WSJ poll

Joe Biden's lead has nearly doubled since Tuesday's debate, with voters saying by 2-to-1 that he has the better temperament to be president.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Care4all]

National polls don't really give the information we need to give a good guess of a winner, only state by state polling of the registered or likely voters can do such....

 

[Auld Phart]

Let me know what it is on November 4th.


No reason to bother with them til then.

 

[eagle1462010]

polls have become like the Weathermen predicting the weather............they only get it right about half the time now.

Katrina is gonna hit Panama City......wait no it's gonna hit Pensacola ......wait a minute....Pasgag............no.......New Orleans........wait a minute......Texas...........Holy shit now back to New Orleans.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

It's the biggest deficit for Trump in that poll yet.

Nope. Trump will win California and New York. Fake news.

 

[eagle1462010]

Meanwhile.........MSM keeps doing the polls.

Lets take a look.

 

[task0778]

“It is clear that the debate, and Mr. Trump’s behavior during it, reinforced the negative side of Mr. Trump personally for many respondents,” said Mr. Horwitt. He said the president “lost the American people on style more than substance.”

I do think this line in the Toro's post is correct. I don't know how many people were watching or how many of them were undecided, but I do think the president hurt himself with those people. Whether it makes a difference in the results is another matter, I got no idea about that. And we have some 30 days to go and anything can happen to change the calculus.

 

[skews13]

It's the biggest deficit for Trump in that poll yet.

Nope. Trump will win California and New York. Fake news.

The biggest declines for Trump in the poll come from seniors (who are now backing Biden by a 62 percent-to-35 percent margin) and suburban women (58 percent to 33 percent).

And men 50 years and older moved from a 13-point advantage for Trump in the pre-debate NBC News/WSJ poll, to a 1-point advantage for Biden in this latest poll.

But hey, it's just a poll. Doesn't mean anything.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

It's the biggest deficit for Trump in that poll yet.

Nope. Trump will win California and New York. Fake news.

The biggest declines for Trump in the poll come from seniors (who are now backing Biden by a 62 percent-to-35 percent margin) and suburban women (58 percent to 33 percent).

And men 50 years and older moved from a 13-point advantage for Trump in the pre-debate NBC News/WSJ poll, to a 1-point advantage for Biden in this latest poll.

But hey, it's just a poll. Doesn't mean anything.

Nope, he's going to clean up in Chicago and Boston too. Fake news

 

[Wintw]

Wall Street journals idea of pulling Republicans is finding John McCain Mitt Romney supporters and asking them about Trump lol

Thank you. EXACTLY.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

I agree with the commentary below. I think this poll is a knee-jerk reaction to Trump's poor showing at the debate. I think Biden is going to win but not by 14.

Mr. Biden, the Democratic nominee, leads the president, 53% to 39%, among registered voters in the new poll, which was conducted in the two days following the debate but before news emerged that Mr. Trump had tested positive for Covid-19. Mr. Biden’s 14-point lead compares with an 8-point advantage last month and 11 points in July, which was his largest of the campaign at that time. ...​

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Bill McInturff, a Republican pollster who directed the survey with Democrat Jeff Horwitt, cautioned that the poll was conducted during an unsettled moment after the caustic presidential debate—“a shock to the system,” he called it—and could reflect a temporary reassessment of views. “The public can be taking a moment to say, ‘What did I just see, and how do I feel about it?’” he said. Mr. Trump could regain ground, Mr. McInturff said, given that “he has a history of bouncing back to some set point.” ...​

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Messrs. Horwitt and McInturff said one factor was the debate, a decorum-destroying event in which the two candidates traded insults and continually talked over each other, with Mr. Trump interrupting his opponent more often. About three-quarters of voters said the event made no difference to their vote. But among the other 25%, a bigger share said the debate made them more likely to support Mr. Biden than Mr. Trump.​

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While 84% of Democrats said Mr. Biden did a better job in the debate, 54% of Republicans said so of the president. Overall, half of voters said Mr. Biden performed better, with a quarter saying Mr. Trump did. Some 17% said neither candidate did well.​

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Asked more broadly about the candidates’ personal qualities, voters by a two-to-one margin said Mr. Biden was better at displaying “the right temperament to be president,” 58% to 26%.​

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“It is clear that the debate, and Mr. Trump’s behavior during it, reinforced the negative side of Mr. Trump personally for many respondents,” said Mr. Horwitt. He said the president “lost the American people on style more than substance.”​

Biden Scores 14-Point Lead Over Trump in Poll After Debate

President Trump is drawing his weakest voter support of the year following Tuesday’s debate with former Vice President Joe Biden, a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll finds.

www.wsj.com

The OP article, the poll is of course Registered Voters:

^^^^ But in October 2016 the WSJ/NBC Poll had Hillary leading Trump by ALMOST the EXACT SAME amount in the head to head Hillary 52% and Trump 38%

Wall Street Journal/NBC Poll from October 10 2016, Hillary leading by 11 points in a 4 Way, Hillary leading Trump by 14 points in a head to head....oh 14 points the SAME as the WSJ poll in the OP says Biden is leading Trump:

Here's the head to head with the Hillary 14 point lead from October 10 2016 WSJ/NBC Poll and it was with LIKELY Voters unlike the OP article WSJ Poll that has Joe Biden 14 points ahead with REGISTERED Voters:

Clinton's lead now up to double digits, new NBC/WSJ poll shows

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www.nbcnews.com

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

I agree with the commentary below. I think this poll is a knee-jerk reaction to Trump's poor showing at the debate. I think Biden is going to win but not by 14.

Mr. Biden, the Democratic nominee, leads the president, 53% to 39%, among registered voters in the new poll, which was conducted in the two days following the debate but before news emerged that Mr. Trump had tested positive for Covid-19. Mr. Biden’s 14-point lead compares with an 8-point advantage last month and 11 points in July, which was his largest of the campaign at that time. ...​

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Bill McInturff, a Republican pollster who directed the survey with Democrat Jeff Horwitt, cautioned that the poll was conducted during an unsettled moment after the caustic presidential debate—“a shock to the system,” he called it—and could reflect a temporary reassessment of views. “The public can be taking a moment to say, ‘What did I just see, and how do I feel about it?’” he said. Mr. Trump could regain ground, Mr. McInturff said, given that “he has a history of bouncing back to some set point.” ...​

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Messrs. Horwitt and McInturff said one factor was the debate, a decorum-destroying event in which the two candidates traded insults and continually talked over each other, with Mr. Trump interrupting his opponent more often. About three-quarters of voters said the event made no difference to their vote. But among the other 25%, a bigger share said the debate made them more likely to support Mr. Biden than Mr. Trump.​

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While 84% of Democrats said Mr. Biden did a better job in the debate, 54% of Republicans said so of the president. Overall, half of voters said Mr. Biden performed better, with a quarter saying Mr. Trump did. Some 17% said neither candidate did well.​

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Asked more broadly about the candidates’ personal qualities, voters by a two-to-one margin said Mr. Biden was better at displaying “the right temperament to be president,” 58% to 26%.​

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“It is clear that the debate, and Mr. Trump’s behavior during it, reinforced the negative side of Mr. Trump personally for many respondents,” said Mr. Horwitt. He said the president “lost the American people on style more than substance.”​

Biden Scores 14-Point Lead Over Trump in Poll After Debate

President Trump is drawing his weakest voter support of the year following Tuesday’s debate with former Vice President Joe Biden, a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll finds.

www.wsj.com

Different Polling sixteen days later after the NBC/WSJ Poll I just posted from October 10 2016. So on October 26 2016 Hillary was leading with LIKELY Voters 14 points ahead of Trump, this was just 12 days before the 2016 Election and the end result was Hillary got 48% and Trump got 46% and so look how OFF they ALL were, the below from Time Magazine:

^^^^ 12 days later Hillary's above 51% turned into 48% and Trump's 37% turned into 46% and Hillary won the Popular Vote and Trump won the Electoral College and the election.

https://time.com/4546942/enums/

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

It's the biggest deficit for Trump in that poll yet.

Yes he had the EXACT SAME 14 point deficit on October 10 2016 in the NBC/WSJ Poll and the EXACT SAME 14 point deficit in the Associated Press Poll on October 26 2016.

The situation is It's The Economy Stupid and until the crazy situation with DAMAGING COVID-19 Lockdowns the American Economy was doing very well. Now who are the peoples going to trust to keep the American Economy moving? Joe Biden who hasn't got a CLUE except to raise taxes and he's said he would do ANOTHER damaging Lockdown which would further damage the American Economy and lose more jobs and probably lose more jobs to China OR Donald Trump to keep the American Economy afloat and do things to encourage more job creation? Who are they going to trust on the Economy? Like I said It's The Economy Stupid. Donald Trump brought more jobs back to Michigan and Pennsylvania and Ohio since 2017, Joe Biden would destroy those jobs with another Lockdown or outsourcing to China.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Just as a reminder, all the polls were forecasting a blow-out in the 2018 House elections, and it was the worst defeat for the Republicans in the House in 44 years. The polls underestimated the extent of the Republican's defeat.

The same people who are saying "the polls were wrong in 2016 and are wrong now" were the same ones saying "the polls were wrong in 2016 and are wrong now" in 2018.

BTW I never thought the Republicans would win The House in 2018, but I did say I thought they would keep The Senate and yes I maintain my position about the 2016 Presidential Election Polls being wrong saying that Hillary would win both the Popular Vote and the Electoral College Vote and like they did not entertain the situation in 2016 of the Silent Trump Voters that the 2016 Polls did NOT pick up they are in 2020 also ignoring the situation of the Silent Trump Voters who all these 2020 Polls are not picking up.

 

[dcbl]

Biden will not win unless the Democrats are able to get away with massive voter fraud

muh polls

 

[wamose]

This country would be crazy to elect a cacadone like Biden. He offers nothing but chaos, poverty and a loss of your personal freedoms and healthcare program.

 

[depotoo]

This is hilarious. From the same poll it shows only 37% voted for Trump in 2016. Therefore it shows he has gained 2% points within the group polled.

 

[gipper]

I think Toro is looking for justifiction for voting Biden. lol.

There must justification for voting for Joe, I just can’t think of one.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

This country would be crazy to elect a cacadone like Biden. He offers nothing but chaos, poverty and a loss of your personal freedoms and healthcare program.

It's better the devil you know than the devil you don't know. I think privately most peoples would be agreeing that Joe Biden has some type of Dementia and is nearly 78 years in age and the result would be Kamala Harris in by the back door a woman who only got 7% in the California Democrat Primary and because of that dropped out.

Of course The Donald is 74 years in age and while he sometimes makes gaffes and spelling errors he can speak off the cuff and answer questions and put a sentence together without either notes or a Teleprompter and until the COVID-19 Lockdown he had the American Economy running pretty good and it is now showing signs of having a rebound a rebound that Leftist policies like raising taxes and ADDING new taxes like a Carbon Tax and joining the Paris Climate Accord would destroy not to mention the Democrats saying they would do another Lockdown which would further destroy the Economy and Jobs etc