Wow! 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths.......

Are not from Covid 19. Surprised? I'm not. The entire world is screaming FIRE in a movie theater, and there's no fire.

This article below sheds a great deal of light on why Italy has such a high reported "death rate" from Covid-19.

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Italy: Only 12% of “Covid19 deaths” list Covid19 as cause

Report shows up to 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths could be misattributed


The way Italy registers deaths explains their increased coronavirus case/fatality ratio, according to one expert and a report from Italy’s National Institute of Health (ISS).

Citing this report (in English here), Professor Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health said:

The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus […] On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three,”
This has been reported widely, it was even in The Telegraph, and yet no one seems to be engaging with it.

The president of the Italian Civil Protection Service actually went out of his way to remind people of the nature of Italy’s fatality figures in a morning briefing on 20/03:
I want you to remember these people died WITH the coronavirus and not FROM the coronavirus”

here is the article- https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/23...m-LuAMIPzzMqYb57qoQrYeqMrfI81YHk4T0aXEEQUQ9Nw

Not sure what you're driving at with this but not only is there a fire, a couple of the doors might be locked. 785 deaths today in the US alone. But yeah, nothing to worry about.
No one is engaging with this because everybody on your linked study died after getting the coronavirus. Nothing to discuss.
Those are being reported by liberals in deep blue cities

we cant trust those numbers

people with a heart condition die every day without the help of the chinese disease
:cuckoo:
 
Are not from Covid 19. Surprised? I'm not. The entire world is screaming FIRE in a movie theater, and there's no fire.

This article below shone eds a great deal of light on why Italy has such a high reported "death rate" from Covid-19.

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Italy: Only 12% of “Covid19 deaths” list Covid19 as cause

Report shows up to 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths could be misattributed


The way Italy registers deaths explains their increased coronavirus case/fatality ratio, according to one expert and a report from Italy’s National Institute of Health (ISS).

Citing this report (in English here), Professor Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health said:

The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus […] On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three,”
This has been reported widely, it was even in The Telegraph, and yet no one seems to be engaging with it.

The president of the Italian Civil Protection Service actually went out of his way to remind people of the nature of Italy’s fatality figures in a morning briefing on 20/03:
I want you to remember these people died WITH the coronavirus and not FROM the coronavirus”

here is the article- https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/23...m-LuAMIPzzMqYb57qoQrYeqMrfI81YHk4T0aXEEQUQ9Nw

Isn't Italy which has one of the biggest number of freemasons and satanists in the world?

Isn't Italy which has the biggest number
 
Are not from Covid 19. Surprised? I'm not. The entire world is screaming FIRE in a movie theater, and there's no fire.

This article below sheds a great deal of light on why Italy has such a high reported "death rate" from Covid-19.

_____________________________________________________________________________________________

Italy: Only 12% of “Covid19 deaths” list Covid19 as cause

Report shows up to 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths could be misattributed


The way Italy registers deaths explains their increased coronavirus case/fatality ratio, according to one expert and a report from Italy’s National Institute of Health (ISS).

Citing this report (in English here), Professor Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health said:

The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus […] On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three,”
This has been reported widely, it was even in The Telegraph, and yet no one seems to be engaging with it.

The president of the Italian Civil Protection Service actually went out of his way to remind people of the nature of Italy’s fatality figures in a morning briefing on 20/03:
I want you to remember these people died WITH the coronavirus and not FROM the coronavirus”

here is the article- https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/23...m-LuAMIPzzMqYb57qoQrYeqMrfI81YHk4T0aXEEQUQ9Nw

Not sure what you're driving at with this but not only is there a fire, a couple of the doors might be locked. 785 deaths today in the US alone. But yeah, nothing to worry about.
No one is engaging with this because everybody on your linked study died after getting the coronavirus. Nothing to discuss.
785 deaths out of 325 million people

No one is ignoring that

but in the long run the cure may worse than the chinese disease itself
 
Are not from Covid 19. Surprised? I'm not. The entire world is screaming FIRE in a movie theater, and there's no fire.

This article below sheds a great deal of light on why Italy has such a high reported "death rate" from Covid-19.

_____________________________________________________________________________________________

Italy: Only 12% of “Covid19 deaths” list Covid19 as cause

Report shows up to 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths could be misattributed


The way Italy registers deaths explains their increased coronavirus case/fatality ratio, according to one expert and a report from Italy’s National Institute of Health (ISS).

Citing this report (in English here), Professor Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health said:

The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus […] On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three,”
This has been reported widely, it was even in The Telegraph, and yet no one seems to be engaging with it.

The president of the Italian Civil Protection Service actually went out of his way to remind people of the nature of Italy’s fatality figures in a morning briefing on 20/03:
I want you to remember these people died WITH the coronavirus and not FROM the coronavirus”

here is the article- https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/23...m-LuAMIPzzMqYb57qoQrYeqMrfI81YHk4T0aXEEQUQ9Nw

Not sure what you're driving at with this but not only is there a fire, a couple of the doors might be locked. 785 deaths today in the US alone. But yeah, nothing to worry about.
No one is engaging with this because everybody on your linked study died after getting the coronavirus. Nothing to discuss.
785 deaths out of 325 million people

No one is ignoring that

but in the long run the cure may worse than the chinese disease itself
That was 785 deaths when he posted that last month. Now the death toll in the U.S. is up over 43,000
 
Are not from Covid 19. Surprised? I'm not. The entire world is screaming FIRE in a movie theater, and there's no fire.

This article below sheds a great deal of light on why Italy has such a high reported "death rate" from Covid-19.

_____________________________________________________________________________________________

Italy: Only 12% of “Covid19 deaths” list Covid19 as cause

Report shows up to 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths could be misattributed


The way Italy registers deaths explains their increased coronavirus case/fatality ratio, according to one expert and a report from Italy’s National Institute of Health (ISS).

Citing this report (in English here), Professor Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health said:

The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus […] On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three,”
This has been reported widely, it was even in The Telegraph, and yet no one seems to be engaging with it.

The president of the Italian Civil Protection Service actually went out of his way to remind people of the nature of Italy’s fatality figures in a morning briefing on 20/03:
I want you to remember these people died WITH the coronavirus and not FROM the coronavirus”

here is the article- https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/23...m-LuAMIPzzMqYb57qoQrYeqMrfI81YHk4T0aXEEQUQ9Nw

Not sure what you're driving at with this but not only is there a fire, a couple of the doors might be locked. 785 deaths today in the US alone. But yeah, nothing to worry about.
No one is engaging with this because everybody on your linked study died after getting the coronavirus. Nothing to discuss.
785 deaths out of 325 million people

No one is ignoring that

but in the long run the cure may worse than the chinese disease itself
That was 785 deaths when he posted that last month. Now the death toll in the U.S. is up over 43,000
43,000 is 0.0132307692% of 325 million

it too bad that anyone had to die from the new chinese disease but the nation as done everything it can to help them

lets just try to keep things in the proper perspective

the virus is not 20 times more deadly than the common flu as early reports indicated

and basing policy on such wrong assumptions is insane
 
When will Italy start using chloroquine for their coronavirus patients?

I mean....seriously

what are they waiting for????:dunno:

I just don't understand it.
Good question.
They'll be reconsidering having 30,000 Chinese migrant workers
in their garment factories from now on.


Absolutely!

Hope they learn their lessons....they wanted all their clothes to say Made in Italy.... instead to Made in China...so they brought in thousands of Chinese workers.

And that's where Italy is now...because of their stupidity ...they are in the midst of Hell.

Oh well...later rather than sooner ....they will understand (we hope)
As if Chinese people somehow uniquely carry the virus. You're a racist pig.
Calling Lyme Disease, “Lyme Disease” doesn’t meant I hate people from CT. You’re such a sensitive little man. Need a hug?
It is international practice to no longer name emerging viruses after location to avoid stigmatizing people for a natural occurrence - but even if that were not the case, it is VERY different to call this SARS coronavirus the Wuhan virus than to call it the CHINESE virus. If you don't get that, you are almost certainly racist.

Tell me how you are going to be eating in 1 month.
Probably cleaning out the hoarded pantries of dumb dead fucks like you? Gloved and masked, of course.
You really from Boston? You have the attitude for sure.
400 years of my family in the area, since we got off the Mayflower in what is now Plymouth.
The Death Of Plymouth
 
Are not from Covid 19. Surprised? I'm not. The entire world is screaming FIRE in a movie theater, and there's no fire.

This article below sheds a great deal of light on why Italy has such a high reported "death rate" from Covid-19.

_____________________________________________________________________________________________

Italy: Only 12% of “Covid19 deaths” list Covid19 as cause

Report shows up to 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths could be misattributed


The way Italy registers deaths explains their increased coronavirus case/fatality ratio, according to one expert and a report from Italy’s National Institute of Health (ISS).

Citing this report (in English here), Professor Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health said:

The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus […] On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three,”
This has been reported widely, it was even in The Telegraph, and yet no one seems to be engaging with it.

The president of the Italian Civil Protection Service actually went out of his way to remind people of the nature of Italy’s fatality figures in a morning briefing on 20/03:
I want you to remember these people died WITH the coronavirus and not FROM the coronavirus”

here is the article- https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/23...m-LuAMIPzzMqYb57qoQrYeqMrfI81YHk4T0aXEEQUQ9Nw

Not sure what you're driving at with this but not only is there a fire, a couple of the doors might be locked. 785 deaths today in the US alone. But yeah, nothing to worry about.
No one is engaging with this because everybody on your linked study died after getting the coronavirus. Nothing to discuss.
785 deaths out of 325 million people

No one is ignoring that

but in the long run the cure may worse than the chinese disease itself
That was 785 deaths when he posted that last month. Now the death toll in the U.S. is up over 43,000
43,000 is 0.0132307692% of 325 million

it too bad that anyone had to die from the new chinese disease but the nation as done everything it can to help them

lets just try to keep things in the proper perspective

the virus is not 20 times more deadly than the common flu as early reports indicated

and basing policy on such wrong assumptions is insane
That's 132 per million just over the last month. That's insanely high for a virus.

Seriously, WTF is wrong with you?
 
Are not from Covid 19. Surprised? I'm not. The entire world is screaming FIRE in a movie theater, and there's no fire.

This article below sheds a great deal of light on why Italy has such a high reported "death rate" from Covid-19.

_____________________________________________________________________________________________

Italy: Only 12% of “Covid19 deaths” list Covid19 as cause

Report shows up to 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths could be misattributed


The way Italy registers deaths explains their increased coronavirus case/fatality ratio, according to one expert and a report from Italy’s National Institute of Health (ISS).

Citing this report (in English here), Professor Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health said:

The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus […] On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three,”
This has been reported widely, it was even in The Telegraph, and yet no one seems to be engaging with it.

The president of the Italian Civil Protection Service actually went out of his way to remind people of the nature of Italy’s fatality figures in a morning briefing on 20/03:
I want you to remember these people died WITH the coronavirus and not FROM the coronavirus”

here is the article- https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/23...m-LuAMIPzzMqYb57qoQrYeqMrfI81YHk4T0aXEEQUQ9Nw

Not sure what you're driving at with this but not only is there a fire, a couple of the doors might be locked. 785 deaths today in the US alone. But yeah, nothing to worry about.
No one is engaging with this because everybody on your linked study died after getting the coronavirus. Nothing to discuss.
785 deaths out of 325 million people

No one is ignoring that

but in the long run the cure may worse than the chinese disease itself
That was 785 deaths when he posted that last month. Now the death toll in the U.S. is up over 43,000
43,000 is 0.0132307692% of 325 million

it too bad that anyone had to die from the new chinese disease but the nation as done everything it can to help them

lets just try to keep things in the proper perspective

the virus is not 20 times more deadly than the common flu as early reports indicated

and basing policy on such wrong assumptions is insane
That's 132 per million just over the last month. That's insanely high for a virus.

Seriously, WTF is wrong with you?
Yes, .012%

whats wrong with you?
 
Are not from Covid 19. Surprised? I'm not. The entire world is screaming FIRE in a movie theater, and there's no fire.

This article below sheds a great deal of light on why Italy has such a high reported "death rate" from Covid-19.

_____________________________________________________________________________________________

Italy: Only 12% of “Covid19 deaths” list Covid19 as cause

Report shows up to 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths could be misattributed


The way Italy registers deaths explains their increased coronavirus case/fatality ratio, according to one expert and a report from Italy’s National Institute of Health (ISS).

Citing this report (in English here), Professor Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health said:

The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus […] On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three,”
This has been reported widely, it was even in The Telegraph, and yet no one seems to be engaging with it.

The president of the Italian Civil Protection Service actually went out of his way to remind people of the nature of Italy’s fatality figures in a morning briefing on 20/03:
I want you to remember these people died WITH the coronavirus and not FROM the coronavirus”

here is the article- https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/23...m-LuAMIPzzMqYb57qoQrYeqMrfI81YHk4T0aXEEQUQ9Nw

Not sure what you're driving at with this but not only is there a fire, a couple of the doors might be locked. 785 deaths today in the US alone. But yeah, nothing to worry about.
No one is engaging with this because everybody on your linked study died after getting the coronavirus. Nothing to discuss.
785 deaths out of 325 million people

No one is ignoring that

but in the long run the cure may worse than the chinese disease itself
That was 785 deaths when he posted that last month. Now the death toll in the U.S. is up over 43,000
43,000 is 0.0132307692% of 325 million

it too bad that anyone had to die from the new chinese disease but the nation as done everything it can to help them

lets just try to keep things in the proper perspective

the virus is not 20 times more deadly than the common flu as early reports indicated

and basing policy on such wrong assumptions is insane
That's 132 per million just over the last month. That's insanely high for a virus.

Seriously, WTF is wrong with you?
Yes, .012%

whats wrong with you?
For one month. What part of that leaves you so brain-dead?

Keep in mind, at this point during the 2009 H1N1 pandemic, that number was 0.000068%
 
Keep in mind, at this point during the 2009 H1N1 pandemic, that number was 0.000068%
If we must use that comparison its also true that we did not crash the economy either
 
Keep in mind, at this point during the 2009 H1N1 pandemic, that number was 0.000068%
If we must use that comparison its also true that we did not crash the economy either
Your non-sequitur about the economy is noted and discarded.

We're talking about the mortality of viruses.

Can a conservative not keep up with the discussion?

Care to name another virus that has killed over 40K in a month in the U.S.?
 
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80% of people that have this so-called "deadly disease" have no symptoms whatsoever. None.

In the overwhelming majority of cases it's only "deadly" if you already have 2 or more serious comorbidities- severe illnesses like stage 4 cancer, emphysema, heart disease, diabetes, morbid obesity, hypertension......While I feel badly for those folks and their families, they were all going to die anyway.

We destroyed our economy over a virus that is no worse than the seasonal flu. Should we do this every year?
 
Your non-sequitur about the economy is noted and discarded.
Non-sequitur?

I noted that we did not employ the radical shutdown of the economy yet even fewer people died
Yes, non-sequitur. Why would there be a need to lockdown the country over 0.000068% deaths?
Thats one way of looking at it

since obama was president and libs didnt want to ruin the economy while he was in charge

so they didnt come up with phony predictions of 2 million deaths if we didnt shut down
 
80% of people that have this so-called "deadly disease" have no symptoms whatsoever. None.

In the overwhelming majority of cases it's only "deadly" if you already have 2 or more serious comorbidities- severe illnesses like stage 4 cancer, emphysema, heart disease, diabetes, morbid obesity, hypertension......While I feel badly for those folks and their families, they were all going to die anyway.

We destroyed our economy over a virus that is no worse than the seasonal flu. Should we do this every year?

Everyone is going to die anyway. ;)
 
80% of people that have this so-called "deadly disease" have no symptoms whatsoever. None.

In the overwhelming majority of cases it's only "deadly" if you already have 2 or more serious comorbidities- severe illnesses like stage 4 cancer, emphysema, heart disease, diabetes, morbid obesity, hypertension......While I feel badly for those folks and their families, they were all going to die anyway.

We destroyed our economy over a virus that is no worse than the seasonal flu. Should we do this every year?
Without social distancing (stalling the economy), total mortality would have been 1-2.5 MILLION Americans - and the healthcare system annihilated.
Perhaps you should read what some actual economists have to say about how much wreckage a massive die-off like that would do to the economy - THEY certainly aren’t arguing for it.

Then, you should seek some spiritual counseling for the dark fucking vacuum where your soul is supposed to reside.
 
Your non-sequitur about the economy is noted and discarded.
Non-sequitur?

I noted that we did not employ the radical shutdown of the economy yet even fewer people died
Yes, non-sequitur. Why would there be a need to lockdown the country over 0.000068% deaths?
Thats one way of looking at it

since obama was president and libs didnt want to ruin the economy while he was in charge

so they didnt come up with phony predictions of 2 million deaths if we didnt shut down
LOLOL

You dumbshit, the economy was already in the toilet. We were just coming out of the Great Bush Recession. Again, the reason there was no lockdown was because the mortality rate was so much lower with H1N1, being nearly 200 times greater with COVID-19.
 
Your non-sequitur about the economy is noted and discarded.
Non-sequitur?

I noted that we did not employ the radical shutdown of the economy yet even fewer people died
Yes, non-sequitur. Why would there be a need to lockdown the country over 0.000068% deaths?
Thats one way of looking at it

since obama was president and libs didnt want to ruin the economy while he was in charge

so they didnt come up with phony predictions of 2 million deaths if we didnt shut down
LOLOL

You dumbshit, the economy was already in the toilet. We were just coming out of the Great Bush Recession. Again, the reason there was no lockdown was because the mortality rate was so much lower with H1N1, being nearly 200 times greater with COVID-19.
Another lib with no vocabulary beyond curse words

we really need more articulate libs on this forum
 

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