Wow! 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths.......

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Death certificates just say whatever the person who filled them out decides to write generally.
Even more bizarre is that Public Health services (think political) collate the #deaths for CDC/WHO/etc.. Doesn't even HAVE to agree with what the coroner wrote on the death certificate. Health dept can make a completely different finding and in THIS case -- apparently often does... The coroners are doing what they were TAUGHT.. The public health people do what they are TOLD in terms of reporting in a time like this...
 

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Death certificates just say whatever the person who filled them out decides to write generally.
Even more bizarre is that Public Health services (think political) collate the #deaths for CDC/WHO/etc.. Doesn't even HAVE to agree with what the coroner wrote on the death certificate. Health dept can make a completely different finding and in THIS case -- apparently often does... The coroners are doing what they were TAUGHT.. The public health people do what they are TOLD in terms of reporting in a time like this...
Aren't coroners elected officials who don't have to have any sort of medical education or background? That sounds like a political position. :dunno:
 

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Death certificates just say whatever the person who filled them out decides to write generally.
Even more bizarre is that Public Health services (think political) collate the #deaths for CDC/WHO/etc.. Doesn't even HAVE to agree with what the coroner wrote on the death certificate. Health dept can make a completely different finding and in THIS case -- apparently often does... The coroners are doing what they were TAUGHT.. The public health people do what they are TOLD in terms of reporting in a time like this...
Aren't coroners elected officials who don't have to have any sort of medical education or background? That sounds like a political position. :dunno:
I've never seen a coroner on a ballot.. Could be true in SOME places.. I'm sure education requirements vary greatly and depends on your JOB in the coroner's office.. But most places I'll wager the Chief Coroner that reviews all this IS a medical doctor... Don't know what it is in my state tho...

Don't need a medical degree to go in a Coroner car and tape off a crime scene and certify a death from 8 rounds of a pistol.. But you might to APPROVE the death certificate.
 

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I've never seen a coroner on a ballot.. Could be true in SOME places.. I'm sure education requirements vary greatly and depends on your JOB in the coroner's office.. But most places I'll wager the Chief Coroner that reviews all this IS a medical doctor... Don't know what it is in my state tho...

Don't need a medical degree to go in a Coroner car and tape off a crime scene and certify a death from 8 rounds of a pistol.. But you might to APPROVE the death certificate.

Or just looking at a search, you'll see coroners as elected officials from all over the country:

I don't know how often they are actual medical doctors. It seems that medical examiners are, but coroners often don't have to be. Even if they do, they still appear to be elected officials pretty much everywhere.
 

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Are not from Covid 19. Surprised? I'm not. The entire world is screaming FIRE in a movie theater, and there's no fire.

This article below sheds a great deal of light on why Italy has such a high reported "death rate" from Covid-19.

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Italy: Only 12% of “Covid19 deaths” list Covid19 as cause

Report shows up to 88% of Italy’s alleged Covid19 deaths could be misattributed


The way Italy registers deaths explains their increased coronavirus case/fatality ratio, according to one expert and a report from Italy’s National Institute of Health (ISS).

Citing this report (in English here), Professor Walter Ricciardi, scientific adviser to Italy’s minister of health said:

The way in which we code deaths in our country is very generous in the sense that all the people who die in hospitals with the coronavirus are deemed to be dying of the coronavirus […] On re-evaluation by the National Institute of Health, only 12 per cent of death certificates have shown a direct causality from coronavirus, while 88 per cent of patients who have died have at least one pre-morbidity – many had two or three,”
This has been reported widely, it was even in The Telegraph, and yet no one seems to be engaging with it.

The president of the Italian Civil Protection Service actually went out of his way to remind people of the nature of Italy’s fatality figures in a morning briefing on 20/03:
I want you to remember these people died WITH the coronavirus and not FROM the coronavirus”

here is the article- https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/23...m-LuAMIPzzMqYb57qoQrYeqMrfI81YHk4T0aXEEQUQ9Nw
Not sure what you're driving at with this but not only is there a fire, a couple of the doors might be locked. 785 deaths today in the US alone. But yeah, nothing to worry about.
No one is engaging with this because everybody on your linked study died after getting the coronavirus. Nothing to discuss.
well said, but doubt rw deplorables will understand...

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