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Would you be better off under Socialism, if so how?

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I'm curious as to the thought process involved in embracing Socialism so I ask, Would you be better off under Socialism, if so how?

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Yes, most conservatives are truly this ignorant as to what ‘socialism’ actually is.
 

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If you are a total loser and shit for brains with no hope (aka a rank and file Dem) then yeah mooching and sponging off others your whole life under socialism is the way to go.


Bernie Sanders certainly did that... He's never held a job in his life.
 

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You're not interested at all. Youre wanting to provoke a debate so you can ridicule socialism.

The irony is, you already live under socialism to a point. When taxpayers money is spent on public infrastructure, it's a form of socialism.
Correct.

It’s a bad-faith effort by conservatives to use something they don’t understand to vilify political opponents they know nothing about.
 

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Yes, most conservatives are truly this ignorant as to what ‘socialism’ actually is.
They confuse socialism, which can be government regulation of production and distribution, with communism, where the state actually owns the means of production (no private ownership)
 

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I'm curious as to the thought process involved in embracing Socialism so I ask, Would you be better off under Socialism, if so how?

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I think you have to define socialism first. For instance, PROGS explain to us how police force and that is socialism, as if we're tarded.

At it's core, socialism brings out the worst in people and nations. It can only work well in small groups where everyone contributes, because that's what species are supposed to do. On our puters and those fucking smart phones aint it.
 

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None have even taken a stab at it.

Serious, I'm not sure I can remember the last time a Lefty ever gave a real answer and explanation to justify their thoughts, opinions or positions on anything. If they do, it usually ens up as:
  1. Your a functional braindeade moron.
  2. If you have to ask, your are just two stupid to talk too.
  3. The answer is obvious to anyone but a tRumpist.
 

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You already embrace socialism. Military? Socialism. Police? Socialism. Roads? Socialism. Schools? Socialism.
They don't understand the concept of government's size, scope and cost existing along a spectrum, a continuum. Nuance/complexity scares and intimidates them, so they attack it. You must be either a commie or you're a great MAGA patriot. That's it. That's all they can grasp, because that's how they're conditioned to think.
 

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I think you have to define socialism first. For instance, PROGS explain to us how police force and that is socialism, as if we're tarded.

At it's core, socialism brings out the worst in people and nations. It can only work well in small groups where everyone contributes, because that's what species are supposed to do. On our puters and those fucking smart phones aint it.
The problem must be the "free" education that people don't take full advantage of by actually remembering what they're taught.

There is a sliding scale between pure capitalism, and pure communism, with socialism dancing between the two extremes.

From history you should have been taught about the first public police forces, the first public fire forces, and even the first public schools. And when I say public, I mean "free shit"
 

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They don't understand the concept of government's size, scope and cost existing along a spectrum, a continuum. Nuance/complexity scares and intimidates them, so they attack it. You must be either a commie or you're a great MAGA patriot. That's it. That's all they can grasp, because that's how they're conditioned to think.
You nailed it perfectly. It's always one or the other. Nuance isnt in their vocabulary. One thing you forgot though....well maybe you covered it with how they cant deal with complexity. You can give them a problem to solve like illegal immigration and they will magically solve this extremely complex issue in one or two sentences MAX. And they are actually convinced they solved the entire issue. It's hilarious!
 

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You're not interested at all. Youre wanting to provoke a debate so you can ridicule socialism.

The irony is, you already live under socialism to a point. When taxpayers money is spent on public infrastructure, it's a form of socialism.
Socialism is rediculous
 

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Serious, I'm not sure I can remember the last time a Lefty ever gave a real answer and explanation to justify their thoughts, opinions or positions on anything. If they do, it usually ens up as:
  1. Your a functional braindeade moron.
  2. If you have to ask, your are just two stupid to talk too.
  3. The answer is obvious to anyone but a tRumpist.
The problem seems to be the inability of the right to accept anything other than "alternative" facts.

That everything the left can site as backing up what they say, is written off as "MSM" or "deep state".
 

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Socialism, Communism, Democracy, Dictatorship, etc............

Their base functions are all worthy of any good social system, depending on how that social system wants to behave and live.

The problem is when politics are introduced to these social systems. Then they ALL go belly up and corrupt as all fucking hell.

People have managed to take care of themselves for eon's, without politics interfering or being injected into the social norm of a culture. Policies and rules are set forth in a social system by all those in favor of said policies and rules. People don't want to "rock the boat".....but when it does happen, justice is already laid out and is swift. People do better when they are allowed to manage themselves. Allow some greedy psycho's hungry for power in the mix, and it all goes to shit.
 

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The problem seems to be the inability of the right to accept anything other than "alternative" facts.

That everything the left can site as backing up what they say, is written off as "MSM" or "deep state".
Dont you know if you believe in an actual fact, you're a sheep. You have to be a "free thinker" which means ignoring basic logical thought and embracing the opposite of whatever is said by anyone that is a RINO or further to the left than a RINO. Come on man get with the program!
 

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You nailed it perfectly. It's always one or the other. Nuance isnt in their vocabulary. One thing you forgot though....well maybe you covered it with how they cant deal with complexity. You can give them a problem to solve like illegal immigration and they will magically solve this extremely complex issue in one or two sentences MAX. And they are actually convinced they solved the entire issue. It's hilarious!
Listen to talk radio. That's where this kind of thinking really proliferated. Not only are they conditioned to think like that, but they're fed a steady diet of distortion about what the other tribe thinks. They take that purely at face value and make zero (0) attempt to gain an accurate understanding of those who dare to disagree with them. So it's good vs. evil for them, and that's it.
 
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If you are a total loser and shit for brains with no hope (aka a rank and file Dem) then yeah mooching and sponging off others your whole life under socialism is the way to go.

Fortunately, there is an ample supply of fentanyl and fentanyl laced drugs that now kill an ample supply of takers off.
It's rising every year!
 

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I'm curious as to the thought process involved in embracing Socialism so I ask, Would you be better off under Socialism, if so how?

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Depending on what definition of "socialism" you prefer, redistribution of wealth and income through a progressive tax system and ownership of key public sector utilities like gas, electricity, water, and railways allows government to function as a fourth factor of production whose purpose is not profit driven but rather exists to lower the cost of living and doing business.
 

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People have managed to take care of themselves for eon's, without politics interfering or being injected into the social norm of a culture. Policies and rules are set forth in a social system by all those in favor of said policies and rules. People don't want to "rock the boat".....but when it does happen, justice is already laid out and is swift. People do better when they are allowed to manage themselves. Allow some greedy psycho's hungry for power in the mix, and it all goes to shit.
A good example of people free from government rules and regulations, who operate under a fixed set of social norms, and manage themselves you only have to look at the Taliban in Afghanistan. They operate at the local level, using the Koran, and not government rules.
 

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