Zone1 Would Jesus support Donald Trump if alive today?

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You don't understand. My God doesn't need any human creature, clean or unclean, to blow smoke up his ass. You seem to think of God as a petty sadistic narcissist. Thats a shame.

That's a lie.

The Old Testament (OT) strongly teaches, commands, and models the open, public, and vocal praise of God. It describes praise as a visible and audible expression of worship, often involving the whole community, musical instruments, singing, and physical actions.

Key aspects of how the OT teaches open praise include:

• Commands to Praise Publicly: The Psalms are filled with imperatives to praise God in public, such as "Sing to the LORD, all the earth" (Psalm 96:1), "Let us shout aloud to the Rock of our salvation" (Psalm 95:1), and "Glorify the LORD with me; let us exalt his name together" (Psalm 34:3).
• Physical Expressions: The OT teaches that praise is not just silent or inward but involves physical actions, including lifting hands (Psalm 134:2), clapping (Psalm 47:1), bowing/kneeling (Psalm 95:6), and dancing (Psalm 149:3).
• Open Testimony: Praise in the OT often takes the form of telling others about God's acts, such as declaring his works among the nations (Psalm 96:3) and praising him in the "great congregation" (Psalm 35:18).
• Instrumental Praise: Psalm 150 commands praise using a variety of instruments, including trumpets, lutes, harps, tambourines, strings, pipe, and loud cymbals.
• Praise in Difficult Times: Job (1:20-21) and the Psalmist (34:1) teach that praise is appropriate even in times of suffering or distress, with a commitment to praise God "at all times".
• As a Weapon of War: 2 Chronicles 20:21-22 shows King Jehoshaphat placing worshippers in front of his army, indicating that open praise was considered a powerful, active weapon that brought victory through God.

The ultimate expression of this in the OT is found in the final, crescendo call of Psalm 150:6: "Let everything that has breath praise the LORD! Praise the LORD!".

 

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You talk about glorifying and praising God but turn to a Roman trinity for spiritual life.

It's better than you hating God and refusing to praise God.

• Psalm 100:1-5: Commands all the earth to shout for joy, worship with gladness, and enter his gates with praise.
• Psalm 150:1-6: Calls for praise in his sanctuary and with various instruments, concluding that everything with breath should praise the Lord.
• Psalm 95:1-3: Encourages singing for joy to the Lord and shouting to the rock of salvation.
• Psalm 34:1: A commitment to bless the Lord at all times and keep his praise continually in the mouth.
• 1 Chronicles 16:34: Commands giving thanks to the Lord because He is good and His love endures forever.
• Psalm 96:1-4: Directs the singing of a new song to the LORD and declares He is greatly to be praised.
• Psalm 148:1-14: Calls on all creation—heavens, earth, creatures, and people—to praise the name of the Lord.
• Psalm 111:10: States that praise belongs to God.
• Psalm 69:30: Mentions praising God's name with song and magnifying him with thanksgiving.
• Psalm 68:4: Commands singing to God and praising his name.

These verses highlight that open praise is not merely an option but a response to God's holiness, steadfast love, and creative power.

 

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Seriously? Are you that confused? Swine that do not ruminate is not to be taken literally. Damn.

Swine that refuse to praise God are damned.

 

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Anyway, I have already given glory to my God

No, you haven't. You refused to openly praise God despite all of the examples in the OT of God being openly praised. You refuse to give God glory or thanks. You are a fake. You are a liar. You hate God.

Ancient Israelites openly praised God through loud singing, dancing, musical instruments, and physical gestures, particularly during temple ceremonies and national celebrations. Key examples include Miriam dancing with a tambourine (Exodus 15:20-21), David dancing before the Ark (2 Samuel 6:14), and massive, boisterous public shouting at the laying of the Temple foundation.
Here are specific examples of open praise in ancient Israel:

• Public Shouting and Singing (Ezra 3:11-13): During the rebuilding of the Temple, priests and Levites sang praise, while the people "boomed out hurrahs" and shouted with such a great, joyous noise—mingled with weeping—that it was heard from far away.
• Miriam’s Tambourine and Dance (Exodus 15:20–21): After crossing the Red Sea, Miriam led the women in dancing and playing tambourines, publicly singing praises to God for victory.
• David’s Dancing (2 Samuel 6:14): King David danced with all his might, wearing a linen ephod, while bringing the Ark of the Covenant into Jerusalem, a very public display of worship.
• Solomon’s Uplifted Hands (1 Kings 8:22): At the dedication of the First Temple, Solomon stood before the altar, spread his hands toward heaven, and offered a prayer of praise in front of the entire assembly of Israel.
• Nehemiah and Ezra's Assembly (Nehemiah 8:6): When Ezra blessed the Lord, all the people lifted their hands, answered "Amen, Amen," and bowed with their faces to the ground.
• Musical Worship with Instruments (2 Chronicles 15:14): The people of Israel pledged themselves to God with shouting, trumpets, and cornets.
• Public Reading and Praise (Psalm 9): The Psalms, used in public worship, include expressions of singing, playing music, and shouting about God's wonders.

 

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I've not cited those as proof.

It certainly was to the Jews of His day who tried to stone Him for blasphemy. In fact, He was accused of blasphemy for doing what only God could do on multiple occasions.

When he told the paralyzed man his sins were forgiven.
When He said He and the Father were one. They wanted to kill Him because He made Himself God.
When He was on trial and said He was the Son of God.
When He broke the Sabbath and made Himself equal with God.

The only way you can avoid that is by inventing whole new meanings for the plain wording of the Scriptures, which you do on a daily basis.

He is the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End. In Isaiah, the Lord proclaims Himself the First and the Last. Jesus does as well.

I do know them.

Like I said, the only way to avoid it is to make up new meanings for things.

And is the Son of Man Daniel saw seated next to God, receiving glory and honor in God's presence.

Jesus claimed to be God.

You claim to follow Jesus yet deny His very character. That means you're following your own made-up version of Jesus, not Jesus Himself.

He is such a liar.

 

[hadit]

He is such a liar.

He pretends to follow the law but refuses to even glorify God. In order to justify his stance, he simply rewrites the Scriptures. I find it telling that he talks about coming at me leading the armies of heaven. I think he believes himself to be a very exalted being indeed.

 

[BreezeWood]

He pretends to follow the law but refuses to even glorify God.

- all in the heavens are equal, nothing wrong to glorify the heavens and keep holy their sabbath the creation of life and garden earth to be kept holy ....

best to not mimic moses their false commandments, textural religion rather the path of self determination, liberation theology as jesus prescribed will lead the path to the everlasting.

 

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I think he believes himself to be a very exalted being indeed.

That is true but he is either very stupid and arrogant or he's just here to troll. Actually, it could be all three.

Breezewood is equally subversive.

 

[BreezeWood]

That is true but he is either very stupid and arrogant or he's just here to troll. Actually, it could be all three.

Breezewood is equally subversive.

am couple of christian maggots -

heaven for them, as injustice and persecution is found at the end of a barrel for both servitude and denial, their madeup desert religion.

 

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heaven for them, as injustice and persecution is found at the end of a barrel for both servitude and denial, their madeup desert religion.

You hate Jews and God.

 

[BreezeWood]

You hate Jews and God.

all in the heavens have the same address is there one in particular you are referencing.

maggots and moses, peas in a pod ... you need only provide the phony commandments never read by anyone w/ a stamp sent from the heavens is all the proof you will ever need.

or live as liars the same as the judaism moses.

 

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all in the heavens have the same address is there one in particular you are referencing.

maggots and moses, peas in a pod ... you need only provide the phony commandments never read by anyone w/ a stamp sent from the heavens is all the proof you will ever need.

or live as liars the same as the judaism moses.

Then you probably hate them all especially the Jewish ones. You are filled with hate. It is consuming you.

 

[hobelim]

He is the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End. In Isaiah, the Lord proclaims Himself the First and the Last. Jesus does as well.

Jesus said he was the first and last what?

The first prophet and last prophet? The first and last stave that God uses to lead the flock? The first and last of two HUMAN witnesses? The first and last of two trees of life? The first and the last to rise from the dead because 'the death', a curse, will cease to exist upon his return from "the brightness of his coming" and "the breath of his mouth" (the breath of life) causing the destruction of the Antichrist, a false counterfeit ascetic Jesus, a supernatural mangod that never existed whose indelible mark, like Satans signature, is on your forehead?

 

[hobelim]

These verses highlight that open praise is not merely an option but a response to God's holiness, steadfast love, and creative power.

I openly praise my God by doing exactly as he commands and extirpating your maudlin BS story that God became a sacrificial Jewish man, the Messiah, a perfect HUMAN sacrifice to a trinity on the Mithran cross so believers who defy the Law can sin with impunity for life by practicing idolatry, worshipping a trinity, and celebrating the sacrifice of an innocent MAN.

Don't you even have an inkling how objectively reprehensible that is? To even imagine that you can avoid accountability for YOUR SINS by throwing Jesus, who you love so much, pft, under the bus? And some people don't believe in curses, Divine condemnation. Imagine that!

You think by saying Praise God! ooh ooh ahh ahh! lol, but doing the exact opposite of what he commands you will live forever? I guess even oblivious assholes are bigger in Texas!

You really must think God, the supreme being and source of life, is dumber than you. Damn.

 

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I openly praise my God by doing exactly as he commands

No. You don't. You hate God.

The Old Testament (OT) strongly teaches, commands, and models the open, public, and vocal praise of God. It describes praise as a visible and audible expression of worship, often involving the whole community, musical instruments, singing, and physical actions.

 

[hobelim]

No. You don't. You hate God.

Is that really the best you can do? Pathetic. I am truly amazed by the many wonderful things seeking eternal life by doing exactly what my God promises results in death has done for you.

 

[hadit]

Jesus said he was the first and last what?

The first prophet and last prophet? The first and last stave that God uses to lead the flock? The first and last of two HUMAN witnesses? The first and last of two trees of life? The first and the last to rise from the dead because 'the death', a curse, will cease to exist upon his return from "the brightness of his coming" and "the breath of his mouth" (the breath of life) causing the destruction of the Antichrist, a false counterfeit ascetic Jesus, a supernatural mangod that never existed whose indelible mark, like Satans signature, is on your forehead?

You really should check first to make sure you know what you're talking about:

1. Isaiah 44:6: "Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god."
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2. Isaiah 48:12: "Listen to me, O Jacob, and Israel, whom I called: I am He; I am the first, and I am the last."
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1. Who is talking here? Is this not your God?
2. Does He have to specify the first and the last what? No, He does not. He is simply the first and the last. It's one of God's titles, yes?

Revelation 1:

10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s Day, and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet, 11 saying, “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last,”

This is Yeshua speaking and taking for Himself which of God's titles? Yes, the first and the last. Again, He doesn't have specify the first and the last of anything. That is your useless bleating about things you do not grasp, because you willfully reject them.

 

[hobelim]

This is Yeshua speaking and taking for Himself which of God's titles? Yes, the first and the last. Again, He doesn't have specify the first and the last of anything. That is your useless bleating about things you do not grasp, because you willfully reject them.

Listen, if Jesus claimed to be God he was insane. Case closed. But I know he wasn't claiming to be God as is clearly shown in John 20:17, one of many numerous examples.

"tell my brothers that I am ascending to my Father and your Father; My God and your God."

By saying to his disciples that his God is their God Jesus in his own words effectively eliminated any possibility that he either thought of himself as or claimed to be God.

Would you like more examples of Jesus making a clear distinction between himself and his God, my God?

So yes, I willfully, knowingly and deliberately reject all BS about Jesus claiming divinity made by his enemies to discredit him because, like you, they were terminally confounded and embarrassed by his revelation.

 

[hadit]

Listen, if Jesus claimed to be God he was insane. Case closed. But I know he wasn't claiming to be God as is clearly shown in John 20:17, one of many numerous examples.

"tell my brothers that I am ascending to my Father and your Father; My God and your God."

By saying to his disciples that his God is their God Jesus in his own words effectively eliminated any possibility that he either thought of himself as or claimed to be God.

So yes, I willfully, knowingly and deliberately reject all BS about Jesus claiming divinity made by his enemies to discredit him because, like you, they were terminally confounded and embarrassed by his revelation.

You therefore reject His own proclamation that He is the first and the last, one of God's titles. You also reject His claim to be I AM, same thing. In both cases, He's taking one of God's titles as His own. Therefore, you MUST say He is insane and you MUST stop pretending to revere Him. Actually, you should stop pretending because you pervert and deny everything He said.

Here is where you bring in some nonsense wherein you invent inanities to explain away the clear and plain meaning of the Bible. You'll probably toss in something about Mithra as well, or is that Mothra? It's not always clear with you.

 

[Hafar1014]

You therefore reject His own proclamation that He is the first and the last, one of God's titles. You also reject His claim to be I AM, same thing. In both cases, He's taking one of God's titles as His own. Therefore, you MUST say He is insane and you MUST stop pretending to revere Him. Actually, you should stop pretending because you pervert and deny everything He said.

Here is where you bring in some nonsense wherein you invent inanities to explain away the clear and plain meaning of the Bible. You'll probably toss in something about Mithra as well, or is that Mothra? It's not always clear with you.

Jesus isnt god hes an idol