Zone1 Would Jesus support Donald Trump if alive today?

[hobelim]

This is your way of taking your hate out on God.

Is brazenly worshiping a Mithran trinity and openly desecrating the teaching of Jesus, the Actual Body of Christ, your way of demonstrating YOUR hatred for MY GOD and his Messiah, an innocent Jewish man, whose death you celebrate before eating him in the form of a lifeless matzo that you pretend to worship on your knees and then crap down the toilet?

Don't bother to answer. I already know.

 

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Is brazenly worshiping a trinity and openly desecrating the teaching of Jesus, the Actual Body of Christ, your way of demonstrating YOUR hatred for MY GOD and his Messiah, an innocent Jewish man, whose death you celebrate before solemnly eating him in the form of a lifeless matzo that you pretend to worship on your knees and then crap down the toilet?

Don't bother to answer. I already know.

I love God. I sing God's praises every second of the day. It's you who hates God.

 

[hobelim]

I love God. I sing God's praises every second of the day. It's you who hates God.

Yeah sure, you love God so much that you religiously celebrate his death and eat him, yum! Im sure singing "god's praises", lol, as you defy his commands makes it all better! Bluntskull.

 

[hadit]

You have to perform mental gymnastics to avoid the inescapable fact that if Jesus did claim to be God (which he didn't) he was completely insane and his disciples would have stoned him themselves.

They believed Him.

As it was Judas betrayed him, not because he claimed to be God, pft, but because he thought that the "love thy enemy" Jesus was not a violent revolutionary as the messiah was expected to be but just another false prophet, a sinner spewing drunken hubris.

Judas betrayed Him for money. You do know that, right?

 

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Yeah sure, you love God so much that you religiously celebrate his death and eat him, yum! Im sure singing "god's praises", lol, as you defy his commands makes it all better! Bluntskull.

I do love God. You can't even say you love God.

 

[hobelim]

They believed Him.

They believed that Jesus was the Holy One of God, the prophet described in Deuteronomy 18:18, a Jewish man, and Simon Peter said so.

If you don't believe me read John 6:68

Judas betrayed Him for money. You do know that, right?

Nonsense. Thats just stupid. Judas was in control of the money bag. He could have just walked away with far more than 30 pieces of silver if money was the motive for his betrayal.

 

[hadit]

They believed that Jesus was the Holy One of God, the prophet described in Deuteronomy 18:18, a Jewish man, and Simon Peter said so.

15 He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?”
16 Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”

Let me hear you say Jesus is the Son of the living God.

If you don't believe me read John 6:68

I read Daniel 7:

“I was watching in the night visions,
And behold, One like the Son of Man,
Coming with the clouds of heaven!
He came to the Ancient of Days,
And they brought Him near before Him.
14 Then to Him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom,
That all peoples, nations, and languages should serve Him.
His dominion is an everlasting dominion,
Which shall not pass away,
And His kingdom the one
Which shall not be destroyed.

God does not allow someone to stand before Him and receive dominion and glory that all should serve Him and not God. You might not think properly directed worship matters to the All-mighty, but it really does.

Nonsense. Thats just stupid. Judas was in control of the money bag. He could have just walked away with far more than 30 pieces of silver if money was the motive for his betrayal.

1. How much money did Jesus and His disciples carry with them? And no, the answer is not Mothra.
2. You don't think someone consumed by greed would want more, no matter how much they already have? Have you SEEN Washington, DC.? Have you ever been laid off while the C-suite gets bonuses? Seriously, get out from under that rock sometime. Greed doesn't care what's already there.

 

[hobelim]

Let me hear you say Jesus is the Son of the living God.

"Son of the living God" is just a relational metaphor for the prophet in Deuteronomy 18:18 indicating a closeness to and intimate knowledge of God far above that of other prophets who were called "servants of God". Jesus was just a man. Its as simple as that. Numbskull.

Now say this 10x's OWA TANA SIAM & your eyes will be opened to what YOU is.

Not a son of God, not a servant of God, not a believer, just a fart in the wind. You are golem.

 

[forkintheroad7]

Jesus says worship me or burn in hell. Sure thats a god of compassion

People send themselves to Hell by rejecting TRUTH

aka Jesus Christ and His Church

 

[hadit]

"Son of the living God" is just a relational metaphor for the prophet in Deuteronomy 18:18 indicating a closeness to and intimate knowledge of God far above that of other prophets who were called "servants of God". Jesus was just a man. Its as simple as that.

Now say this ten times. OWA TANA SIAM, and your eyes will be opened to what you really are.

And there you go again, just inventing stuff to make the Scriptures fit your warped view. At least this time you didn't try to squeeze in something about Mothra.

"Servant" is far different from "Son". Ever read about the Prodigal Son who wanted to come back as a servant but was restored as a son? No other person was ever called the Son of God. You pretend it's a title someone can earn. It is not. It is a descriptor of who someone is.

 

[forkintheroad7]

Do you really feel Jesus Christ would support Trump and MAGA if alive today.
I have a hard time believing he would.
MAGA is the opposite of many of Jesus's key teachings.

• Jesus’s call for humility and service over power and wealth.
• His commands to love and care for outsiders and the disadvantaged
• Jesus never sought political office or power and urged His followers to seek God’s kingdom rather than worldly rule.
• His emphasis was on care, compassion, and justice for all people, especially the vulnerable.
• He challenged religious and political leaders alike when they ignored mercy and righteousness
• Love your neighbor as yourself.” (Mark 12:31)
• “I was a stranger and you welcomed me.” (Matthew 25:35)
• The Good Samaritan (Luke 10) centers moral duty on care for foreigners and enemies.
• Jesus rejects earthly power, status, and domination (Matthew 20:25–28).
• Jesus condemns deception and hypocrisy (Matthew 23).
• Jesus repeatedly warns against wealth and neglect of the poor (Luke 12, Luke 16).
• What mortal man does not realize we are all flawed and ask Jesus for forgiveness? Trump has said "Why do I have to repent or ask for forgiveness, if I am not making mistakes?"
• 'Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; life does not consist in an abundance of possessions'” (Luke 12:15).

Jesus taught us to obey the Commandments, one of which is Thou shalt not murder

so you liberals who don't like when Rs look like they may be breaking a commandment or 2

don't care about innocent children being murdered by their parents in the womb (which seems kind of "big" to some of us)

Hypocrites

(Matthew, Chapter 23 Jesus talks about being hypocrites)

The hated (by all liberals) Trump is not in favor of murdering children, so there's that

 

[forkintheroad7]

I can't think of one thing Trump is doing improperly. He seems to follow truth (law and justice and logic) better than a lot of so-called Christians

which admittedly is not a high bar these days..

 

[hobelim]

Thou shalt not murder

When Jesus said, "Satan was a murderer from the beginning" he was referring to misleading A&E to defy the command of my God which resulted in their death, a curse, not homicide.

It follows that the command has nothing to do with killing anything, except by deception.

The hated (by all liberals) Trump is not in favor of murdering children, so there's that

Trump is the epitome of a talking serpent, a murderer, a malevolent con artist in the same way Jesus meant by saying "Satan was a murderer from the beginning" (of the fairy tale).

And if YOU taught YOUR children to worship a trinity or sacrificial mangod a false substitute Jesus, the Antichrist, YOU are a murderer who has sacrificed his own children to Molech.

MURDERER.

 

[Hafar1014]

People send themselves to Hell by rejecting TRUTH

aka Jesus Christ and His Church

There is no hell and you dont own the truth so who is the liar?

 

[BreezeWood]

Let us make man in our image.

Obviously, Jesus had both God's image and man's. He didn't think there was anything wrong with being equal with God because He was God. You didn't really think that one through.

heavens creation of life insures all spirits are equal in stature not one above another the differences are their choices made to guide their own self determination.

jesus repudiated judaism and the liar moses -

Then they said, “Let us make life in our image, in our likeness, the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky the livestock and all the wild animals, and all the creatures that move along the ground.”

the correction jesus made during the 1st century events in the name of the heavens ...

 

[BreezeWood]

Jesus taught us to obey the Commandments, one of which is Thou shalt not murder

jesus repudiated judaism and their false commandments et al - commandments destroyed by the liar and murderer moses before they were ever read by anyone.

 

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They believed that Jesus was the Holy One of God, the prophet described in Deuteronomy 18:18, a Jewish man, and Simon Peter said so.

Incorrect.

The Gospel of Luke records several instances and claims where Jesus acts, speaks, or is described in ways that present Him as having divine authority and equality with God, such as forgiving sins, having power over nature, and accepting worship, leading to the understanding (especially in later Christian theology) of His divinity and fulfillment of prophecy.

The Gospel of John records Jesus making claims and performing actions that his Jewish contemporaries understood as claims of divinity, leading them to accuse him of blasphemy for making himself equal with God, such as calling God "My Father" and working on the Sabbath as God does. Key instances include Jesus stating, "My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I, too, am at work," and "The Father and I are one," asserting shared nature, works, power, and judgment with God.

The Gospel of Mark records Jesus performing actions and making statements that demonstrate divine authority, leading many to interpret these as claims to equality with God, such as forgiving sins (a power only God has), controlling nature, and accepting worship, culminating in his affirmation before the High Priest that he is the "Son of Man" coming on the clouds, which was understood as blasphemy and claiming divine status.

The Gospel of Matthew records Jesus performing actions and making claims that are interpreted as signs of divinity, such as accepting worship (Matt. 28:9, 17), claiming unique authority over the Law and judgment, and his resurrection.

 

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"Son of the living God" is just a relational metaphor for the prophet in Deuteronomy 18:18 indicating a closeness to and intimate knowledge of God far above that of other prophets who were called "servants of God". Jesus was just a man.

Incorrect.

Portraying Jesus as supernatural isn't just an element in the Gospels; it's fundamental to what the Gospels aim to convey about his identity and purpose.

The Gospels make a deliberate and central effort to portray Jesus as a supernatural being, highlighting his divine nature through miraculous deeds (healings, nature control, resurrection), his unique divine conception, and his identity as the Son of God, with John's Gospel emphasizing his pre-existence and deity most strongly. While different Gospels emphasize different aspects (Matthew as King, Mark as Servant, Luke as perfect Man), all present a figure whose life, actions, and claims transcend the ordinary human experience to reveal God.

The majority of mainstream biblical scholars agree that the authors of the Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) made a concerted, intentional effort to portray Jesus as a supernatural figure.

 

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And if YOU taught YOUR children to worship a trinity or sacrificial mangod a false substitute Jesus, the Antichrist, YOU are a murderer who has sacrificed his own children to Molech.

MURDERER.

This is exactly how someone who hates God would speak to others who loved God.

 

[BreezeWood]

This is exactly how someone who hates God would speak to others who loved God.

- no maggot throughout history has ever loved anyone but themselves. desert dwellers.