Zone1 Would Jesus support Donald Trump if alive today?

[hobelim]

No, you don't.

Yes I do. For instance, I can walk right past any Church anywhere in the world any day of the week, including Sunday, and not feel the slightest draw, the smallest tug or temptation to go inside that Church, cry to a priest about how fucked up I am, ask him to ask God to forgive me, and to demonstrate my sincere and contrite heart and just how sorry I am for sinning, set aside the Law of my God, get down on my knees and turn to a lifeless piece of bread MADE BY HUMAN HANDS to worship and eat for spiritual life which is idolatry, A SIN under penalty of "the death", a curse you so perfectly display by being so completely UNAWARE that your hypocrisy is as obvious as a giant white boulder in the middle of a plowed field.

Believe it or not, for me, not sinning is easy.

 

[ding]

Yes I do. For instance, I can walk right past any church anywhere in the world any day of the week including Sunday and not feel the slightest draw, the smallest tug or temptation to go inside that Church, cry to a priest about how fucked up I am, ask him to ask God to forgive me, and to demonstrate my sincere and contrite heart and just how sorry I am for sinning, set aside the Law of my God, get down on my knees and turn to a lifeless piece of bread MADE BY HUMAN HANDS to worship and eat for spiritual life, which is idolatry, A SIN under penalty of death, a curse you so perfectly display completely UNAWARE that your hypocracy is as obvious as a white boulder in the middle of a plowed field.

Believe it or not, for me its easy.

No, you don't. You hate God and anyone who worships God.

 

[hobelim]

No, you don't. You hate God and anyone who worships God.

Thats pathetic.

You may not realize this but everything I have made known to you I have drawn from what Jesus taught, what he learned from my God, which glorifies Jesus and vindicates the faith of every Christian who ever put their trust in him.

 

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Thats pathetic.

You may not realize this but everything I have made known to you I have drawn from what Jesus taught, what he learned from my God, which glorifies Jesus and vindicates the faith of every Christian who ever put their trust in him.

No, you haven't. You hate God and anyone who worships God.

 

[hobelim]

No, you haven't. You hate God and anyone who worships God.

Pft.

 

[ding]

Pft.

You hate God.

 

[BreezeWood]

You hate God and anyone who worships God.

that is all three desert bibles, those as the murderer moses and abraham the liar they chose as their representatives throughout their pitiful books than the 1000's others with messages far greater than the demoniacism found in any desert bible.

the flip side for the heavenly, no where found in the world of maga bing.

 

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that is all three desert bibles, those as the murderer moses and abraham the liar they chose as their representatives throughout their pitiful books than the 1000's others with messages far greater than the demoniacism found in any desert bible.

the flip side for the heavenly, no where found in the world of maga bing.

You hate God too and anyone who worships God.

 

[hadit]

Pft.

Then give glory to God, not to yourself. Say it with me, God is worthy of all praise, glory and honor.

 

[BreezeWood]

Then give glory to God, not to yourself. Say it with me, God is worthy of all praise, glory and honor.

oh,

does that book include the verification code for worthy correspondence ...

 

[hobelim]

Then give glory to God, not to yourself. Say it with me, God is worthy of all praise, glory and honor.

You don't understand. My God doesn't need any human creature, clean or unclean, to blow smoke up his ass. You seem to think of God as a petty sadistic narcissist. Thats a shame.

The only reason you say that shit is to impress others but guess what! I am not impressed.

Can I get an ooh ooh ahh ahh?

Anyway, I have already given glory to my God, with your help, lol, by revealing his wisdom in giving the Law to refrain from the flesh of swine that do not ruminate and you so generously demonstrating for all the world to see the terrifying and deeply disturbing death, a curse, for setting that easy instruction aside to seek spiritual life from a trinity that became a magical mangod, the Antichrist, (that does not correspond to any real living being ever in existence) so "believers" who receive the mark of the beast, throw Jesus under the bus, and celebrate the sacrifice of an innocent man can remain oblivious assholes and sin with impunity for life.

I think you're a sucker for believing the maudlin delusion that a trinity diddled a virgin to become a baby only to be despised and crucified to pay the penalty for YOUR SINS because he loved the Roman world so much, derp, but thats just me. Don't let that disturb your sleep.

But thanks! Jesus and my God, who revealed His Divine wisdom to him, have been glorified.

So be happy!

BTW, If you have a strong need to blow smoke up someones ass, trump seems to love it.

 

[hadit]

You don't understand. My God doesn't need any human creature, clean or unclean, to blow smoke up his ass. You seem to think of God as a petty sadistic narcissist. Thats a shame.

God is worthy of praise simply for who He is. That's just reality. That fact that you can't bring yourself to do it is very telling.

The only reason you say that shit is to impress others but guess what! I am not impressed.

Can I get an ooh ooh ahh ahh?

Anyway, I have already given glory to my God, with your help, lol, by revealing his wisdom in giving the Law to refrain from the flesh of swine that do not ruminate

Funny how that is the one part of the law you take literally while deliberately perverting the rest of it to suit yourself.

and you so generously demonstrating for all the world to see the terrifying and deeply disturbing death, a curse, for setting that easy instruction aside to seek spiritual life from a trinity that became a magical mangod, the Antichrist, (that does not correspond to any real living being ever in existence) so "believers" who receive the mark of the beast, throw Jesus under the bus, and celebrate the sacrifice of an innocent man can remain oblivious assholes and sin with impunity for life.

Says no one, least of all me. See, this is why no one listens to you, you insist on claiming they say things they don't say.

I think you're a sucker for believing the maudlin delusion that a trinity diddled a virgin to become a baby only to be despised and crucified to pay the penalty for YOUR SINS because he loved the Roman world so much, derp, but thats just me. Don't let that disturb your sleep.

Your opinion doesn't disturb my sleep. Heck, it doesn't disturb my time on this board. I do find it very telling that you cannot bring yourself to glorify your creator.

But thanks! Jesus and my God, who revealed His Divine wisdom to him, have been glorified.

Not by you, who insists on perverting everything He said.

So be happy!

Oh, I am, quite actually.

BTW, If you want to blow smoke up someones ass, trump seems to love it.

Irrelevant. You worry about him, I won't.

 

[hobelim]

Funny how that is the one part of the law you take literally

Seriously? Are you that confused? Swine that do not ruminate is not to be taken literally. Damn.

 

[hadit]

Seriously? Are you that confused? Swine that do not ruminate is not to be taken literally. Damn.

And yet you keep on presenting it as if you take it seriously. Good to know you don't take any of the law seriously.

 

[hobelim]

Says no one, least of all me.

You say one thing but do another. You talk about glorifying and praising God but turn to a Roman trinity for spiritual life. Derp. You might as well go to church and give God the finger.

 

[hadit]

You say one thing but do another. You talk about glorifying and praising God but turn to a Roman trinity for spiritual life. You might as well go to church and give God the finger.

I explicitly give glory to God and take His Word seriously. You, OTOH, take what you want out of the Bible and invent meanings for things you don't like, all the while refusing to give the God you say you serve any glory at all. You seem to want it all for yourself.

 

[hobelim]

I explicitly give glory to God and take His Word seriously.

Nonsense. You bring the name of Jesus into disrepute among intelligent people by believing he claimed to be God which, even in the first century, like it is now, would make him insane.

If you took his WORD seriously you would rather be crucified upside down than worship a Roman trinity that became a sacrificial mangod. You explicitly, brazenly, defy his WORD.

 

[hadit]

Nonsense. You bring the name of Jesus into disrepute among intelligent people by believing he claimed to be God which, even in the first century, like it is now, would make him insane.

Which is your conundrum, because He blatantly DID claim to be God, multiple times and the Jews of the day tried to kill Him for doing so, but you claim He was a great man despite claiming to be God. Do you not see how you are caught claiming a man you think is insane is a great man?

If you took his WORD seriously you would rather be crucified upside down than worship a Roman trinity that became a sacrificial mangod. You explicitly, brazenly, defy his WORD.

I do not pervert the plain meaning of His Word, as you have been doing.

 

[hobelim]

Which is your conundrum, because He blatantly DID claim to be God, multiple times

No he didn't. By saying the Father and I are one is not a claim of being God. Saying if you have seen me you have seen the Father is not a claim of being God. Saying before Abraham was born I am is not a claim of being God. You haven't seen and don't know Jesus nor God.

and the Jews of the day tried to kill Him for doing so,

Right. They were trying to frame charge against him to discredit him with that scurrilous lie just like ding once said that I claimed to be God which is a lie, and for the same exact reason, because they, like ding, were confounded and embarrassed by the revelation.

but you claim He was a great man despite claiming to be God.

No, I believe he was the Messiah in spite of scurrilous lies intended to discredit his WORDS.

Do you not see how you are caught claiming a man you think is insane is a great man?

I never said that Jesus was insane. I said that anyone who claims to be God is insane.

AM I TELLING YOU SOMETHING YOU DON'T ALREADY KNOW?

So either Jesus meant something else, what I believe, or he was insane, what you believe.

You are like a guy who goes running for a touchdown and starts dancing like a fool in the wrong end zone.

 

[hadit]

No he didn't. By saying the Father and I are one is not a claim of being God. Saying if you have seen me you have seen the Father is not a claim of being God.

I've not cited those as proof.

Saying before Abraham was born I am is not a claim of being God.

It certainly was to the Jews of His day who tried to stone Him for blasphemy. In fact, He was accused of blasphemy for doing what only God could do on multiple occasions.

When he told the paralyzed man his sins were forgiven.
When He said He and the Father were one. They wanted to kill Him because He made Himself God.
When He was on trial and said He was the Son of God.
When He broke the Sabbath and made Himself equal with God.

The only way you can avoid that is by inventing whole new meanings for the plain wording of the Scriptures, which you do on a daily basis.

He is the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End. In Isaiah, the Lord proclaims Himself the First and the Last. Jesus does as well.

You haven't seen and don't know Jesus nor God.

I do know them.

Right. They were trying to frame charge against him to discredit him with that scurrilous lie just like ding once said that I claimed to be God which is a lie, and for the same exact reason, because they, like ding, were confounded and embarrassed by the revelation.

Like I said, the only way to avoid it is to make up new meanings for things.

No, I believe he was the Jewish messiah in spite of scurrilous lies intended to discredit his WORDS.

And is the Son of Man Daniel saw seated next to God, receiving glory and honor in God's presence.

I never said that Jesus was insane. I said that anyone who claims to be God is insane.

Jesus claimed to be God.

AM I TELLING YOU SOMETHING YOU DON'T ALREADY KNOW?

So either Jesus meant something else, what I believe, or he was insane, what you believe.

You are like a guy who goes running for a touchdown and starts dancing like a fool in the wrong end zone.

You claim to follow Jesus yet deny His very character. That means you're following your own made-up version of Jesus, not Jesus Himself.