Winter storm emergency, Solar & Wind fail

[elektra]

A sad day in the USA, the worst winter storm this year, people fear freezing to death, as Solar and Wind power fail across New England.

If only they had a chunk of Coal.

 

[Judicial review]

Did the wind terbines freeze stuck?

 

[elektra]

Did the wind terbines freeze stuck?

Literally, yes. Snow and ice on the turbine blades unbalance the turbine, further gusting storm winds buffet the wind turbine. They are 100% shutdown, no power from wind during this emergency. No energy from solar during this emergency.

Wind turbines need perfect wind, not to strong, not to light, the wind must be just right.

 

[Mr. H.]

When the last coal plant is shut down by the EPA, I think we'll have a better picture where we're headed with this.

 

[elektra]

Just imagine when New England is 100% Green, Clean, Renewable energy, War or Storm, with no electricity they are a liability to our safety and welfare.

 

[william the wie]

Just imagine when New England is 100% Green, Clean, Renewable energy, War or Storm, with no electricity they are a liability to our safety and welfare.

Makes you wonder why people think they should live there.

 

[HenryBHough]

Makes you wonder why people think they should live there.

Folks around here tolerate the nasty winters because we so enjoy the hurricanes in late summer.

 

[elektra]

Makes you wonder why people think they should live there.

Cause the desert is only for Solar.

 

[Old Rocks]

WINTER STORM Snow cold did not affect wind turbines in the Big Country - Reporter News

Thanks to the proximity of wind farms, many West Texans avoided most of the rolling blackouts other parts of the state experienced Wednesday as power companies relieved the strain on generating plants.

Greg Wortham of Sweetwater, executive director for Texas Wind Energy Clearinghouse, said the snow and cold did not affect the turbines. By contrast, plants using water or fossil fuel encountered frozen water lines or other problems with the cold.

"The wind farms provided approximately 7 percent of the energy during the blackouts," he said. Since the transmission lines connect directly to many West Texas communities, they received the extra power.

Hmmmmmmmm.....................

 

[elektra]

WINTER STORM Snow cold did not affect wind turbines in the Big Country - Reporter News

Thanks to the proximity of wind farms, many West Texans avoided most of the rolling blackouts other parts of the state experienced Wednesday as power companies relieved the strain on generating plants.

Greg Wortham of Sweetwater, executive director for Texas Wind Energy Clearinghouse, said the snow and cold did not affect the turbines. By contrast, plants using water or fossil fuel encountered frozen water lines or other problems with the cold.

"The wind farms provided approximately 7 percent of the energy during the blackouts," he said. Since the transmission lines connect directly to many West Texas communities, they received the extra power.

Hmmmmmmmm.....................

Texas is not in New England, moron.

 

[Old Rocks]

OK, asshole, link to an article that states the wind power failed during the storm. I provided a link where the conventional power generation plants failed during a storm, and the wind turbines did not. Now you provide a link that shows where the turbines failed, and the conventional power stations did not.

 

[elektra]

OK, asshole, link to an article that states the wind power failed during the storm. I provided a link where the conventional power generation plants failed during a storm, and the wind turbines did not. Now you provide a link that shows where the turbines failed, and the conventional power stations did not.

Go Fish!

 

[Old Rocks]

Did the wind terbines freeze stuck?

Literally, yes. Snow and ice on the turbine blades unbalance the turbine, further gusting storm winds buffet the wind turbine. They are 100% shutdown, no power from wind during this emergency. No energy from solar during this emergency.

Wind turbines need perfect wind, not to strong, not to light, the wind must be just right.

And you are full of shit, as usual.

UK Wind Power Exceeds Coal During Storm Continues to Break Energy Records EcoWatch

As the UK cleans up after being lashed by the remnants of Hurricane Bertha, which brought summer flooding and travel disruption, it is also reaping the benefits of a boost to the country’s wind industry brought by the storm, with output hitting near record highs.

Wind power met almost 16 percent of the UK’s power demand on Monday morning, and 13.1 percent of demand over the preceding 24 hours.

The strong performance meant wind power output exceeded coal power—which accounted for 11.3 percent, according to trade body EnergyUK.

It also took output to levels close to the record set during last December when wind energy met 10 percent of electricity demand throughout the month and peaked at 17 percent of demand.

The UK has broken a series of wind records over the past 12 months, and last week new government figures confirmed that 2013 had seen around 15 percent of electricity in the country come from renewables—7.9 percent of which was provided by onshore and offshore wind turbines.

The plentiful supply of wind energy is also helping to pick up the slack this week as French energy companies EDF was forced to shut down four nuclear reactors in the UK.

 

[Old Rocks]

OK, asshole, link to an article that states the wind power failed during the storm. I provided a link where the conventional power generation plants failed during a storm, and the wind turbines did not. Now you provide a link that shows where the turbines failed, and the conventional power stations did not.

Go Fish!

In other words, you pulled that out of your ass.

 

[skookerasbil]

Nobody cares about solar and wind.........its going to be a fringe energy source for a long, long, long time!!!!

From 2014.........the Obama Energy Information Agency (EIA)

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And Europe is going big back to coal in the past couple of years, especially in Germany, where by 2020, they will be opening up 20 new coal plants. Natural gas in Europe? Booming!!

[URL='http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe-consuming-more-coal/2013/02/07/ec21026a-6bfe-11e2-bd36-c0fe61a205f6_story.html']Europe consuming more coal - The Washington Post

Like Ive always said........at the end of the day, its always and always will be about "costs".. And obviously........for all the "consensus science", its not mattering.........at all.[/URL]

 

[elektra]

The UK has broken a series of wind records over the past 12 months, and last week new government figures confirmed that 2013 had seen around 15 percent of electricity in the country come from renewables—7.9 percent of which was provided by onshore and offshore wind turbines.

The plentiful supply of wind energy is also helping to pick up the slack this week as French energy companies EDF was forced to shut down four nuclear reactors in the UK.

England is not the same as New England. The winter storm is in the USA!

NEW ENGLAND, not England.

 

[Old Rocks]

You said that the wind conditions had to be perfect for the turbines to generate. Yet there was a major storm, and the turbines were putting out major power. Seems you are still full of shit.

 

[Old Rocks]

Yes, it is about cost, and wind, per kilowatt, is now cheaper than the dirtiest of coal. And solar soon will be. And wind and solar have very low external costs as compared to the damage that coal does. So wind and solar are the future, coal is the past, soon to be relegated to the same bin as horse drawn wagons for commercial freight.

 

[elektra]

You said that the wind conditions had to be perfect for the turbines to generate. Yet there was a major storm, and the turbines were putting out major power. Seems you are still full of shit.

You have yet to post anything from New England, which had to shutdown a 100% of all Wind Turbines.

No Wind Turbine operates in a storm with hurricane force winds, many are designed to be shutdown in winds above 40 mph, some operate at a higher speed but none operate in sub-zero temperatures during a severe blizzard.

Further, wind turbine farms must be hooked up to a fossil fuel electricity source to keep the heaters on, got to keep those blades and gearbox warm.

 

[Old Rocks]

Stupid ass, look it up.

National Wind Watch Output From Industrial Wind Power

General Electric (GE) makes a once widely used 1.5-megawatt model. 1.5 MW is its rated, or maximum, capacity, at which rate it will produce power when the wind is in the ideal range for that model, between 27 and 56 mph. Turbines are now generally in the range of 2-3 MW.