But you know I've found if you don't talk politics or other deeply controversial subjects, most are pretty decent, even reasonable people. It's just something in the water they drink or some such that makes them go nuts when it is politics. TDS is real. Wokeness is real. They honestly buy into these leftist doctrines and dogmas and there is something that makes them refuse to see when those concepts fail, all the times they've failed, the too often deadly consequences of those failures.The leading reason I refuse to even try being nice to these tiresome asswagons.