Why would anyone want to have kids?

[DGS49]

It is only natural to want to reproduce oneself, and that's not even counting the fact that the procreative act is fun.

Imagine the historical arrogance of this OP. It was only a figurative millisecond ago when basically every sex act could result in a pregnancy, and abortions were unavailable, especially for the working classes.

It is that kind of thinking that results in the countries of the First World literally dying on the vine with birth rates of 1.2 or so - even counting the few immigrants who reproduce like rabbits. In a generation, Europe will not be Europe anymore.

 

[Dr.Destructo]

Yeah, no.
I've read the Bible 3x, and you're fulla shit.
I'm not even kidding.
I don't remember everything, but I do know things.

Depends on whose bible you read.
There are over 450 different kinds of American bibles.

 

[Midnight FM]

Yeah, no.
I've read the Bible 3x, and you're fulla shit.
I'm not even kidding.
I don't remember everything, but I do know things.

You haven't read it well, then.

8I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I. 9But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

1 Corinthians 7 KJV

Paul said it's better not to marry and have children. Jesus and his disciples didn't have any children that I know of.

The Garden of Eden was the ideal place for having children because mankind lived in harmony with nature. After the Fall of Man, God said that having children would be a source of suffering:

Genesis 3 NKJV

To the woman He said:

“I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception;
In pain you shall bring forth children;

 

[The Duke]

You haven't read it well, then.

8I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I. 9But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

1 Corinthians 7 KJV

Paul said it's better not to marry and have children. Jesus and his disciples didn't have any children that I know of.

The Garden of Eden was the ideal place for having children because mankind lived in harmony with nature. After the Fall of Man, God said that having children would be a source of suffering:

Genesis 3 NKJV

To the woman He said:

“I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception;
In pain you shall bring forth children;

You are one serious Commie retard. I can't help you. I'm going to go eat a homemade Taco Supreme now.
Good luck with that.
With* a glass of Royal Crown.

 

[Midnight FM]

It is only natural to want to reproduce oneself, and that's not even counting the fact that the procreative act is fun.

Imagine the historical arrogance of this OP. It was only a figurative millisecond ago when basically every sex act could result in a pregnancy, and abortions were unavailable, especially for the working classes.

Abortion methods have been available prior to the advent of the modern abortion clinic.

Actual infanticide, such as discarding children at birth, always existed, and still does. In some cases, it was a cultural practice, such as the ancient Spartans discarding physically "defective" children, presumably because they lacked the modern medical care required to care for such children.

It is that kind of thinking that results in the countries of the First World literally dying on the vine with birth rates of 1.2 or so - even counting the few immigrants who reproduce like rabbits. In a generation, Europe will not be Europe anymore.

Your point being what? Europe today isn't what it was during the days of ancient Rome either. And during those days, Rome is where civilization was. The Europeans were the barbarians. Who cares?

And it doesn't matter who produces the offspring. What matters is who controls the culture. Countries like Europe are made up of many institutions which influence the culture moreso than who the parents of the offspring are. If the parents were the only ones who influenced the culture of their offspring, there would be no "Europe", every family would just be its own tribe or clan.

So as long as enlightened values continue to be passed on, everything is good. Though you probably only care about the skin color of the immigrants in question.

 

[MayorQuimby]

Abortion methods have been available prior to the advent of the modern abortion clinic.

Actual infanticide, such as discarding children at birth, always existed, and still does. In some cases, it was a cultural practice, such as the ancient Spartans discarding physically "defective" children, presumably because they lacked the modern medical care required to care for such children.


Your point being what? Europe today isn't what it was during the days of ancient Rome either. Who cares?

And it doesn't matter who produces the offspring. What matters is who controls the culture. So as long as enlightened values continue to be passed on, everything is good. Though you probably only care about the skin color of the immigrants in question.

The fed just got back from his coffee break and is now all juiced up.

 

[Manonthestreet]

God doesn't demand it at all, silly.

The Bible clearly says it's better to not to marry or have children:

8I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I. 9But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

1 Corinthians 7 KJV

God only told Adam and Eve to "be fruitful and multiply" populate the earth, because Eden was the ideal conditions for having children. But in a modern era with overpopulation, this is no longer relevant, and hasn't been since the Fall of Man.

This is another example of how people have corrupted the Bible by taking bits out of context while ignoring the rest.

"Be fruitful and multiply".........that was never rescinded ....... ooooops

 

[Midnight FM]

"Be fruitful and multiply".........that was never rescinded ....... ooooops

Yes, it was rescinded. You'd have to completely ignore Paul and the fact that he didn't marry, and said that it's better not to marry and have children.

And there are two times where God commanded people to be fruitful and multiply - the second time was after Noah's flood, because the earth needed to be repopulated.

So it's pretty clear that the intention was to populate the earth when it was low on population. Therefore, it wouldn't be applicable if the earth is overpopulated.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Yes, it was rescinded. You'd have to completely ignore Paul and the fact that he didn't marry, and said that it's better not to marry and have children.

And there are two times where God commanded people to be fruitful and multiply - the second time was after Noah's flood, because the earth needed to be repopulated.

So it's pretty clear that the intention was to populate the earth when it was low on population. Therefore, it wouldn't be applicable if the earth is overpopulated.

Paul was 1 person dumbass.......he didnt marry cause he was never in 1 place at the same time....you really are a kook

 

[Midnight FM]

Paul was 1 person dumbass.......he didnt marry cause he was never in 1 place at the same time....you really are a kook

Paul said that it's better not to marry and have children unless you have to. Jesus and none of his disciples had children either:

8I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I. 9But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

1 Corinthians 7 KJV

 

[Manonthestreet]

Did Christ's original twelve apostles have families?

We know that Peter was married because Christ healed his mother-in-law. Do we know if he had children? Do we know whether any of the other apostles were married and if they had children?

christianity.stackexchange.com

Christ also said suffer the little children to come into me.

Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 19:14 - King James Version

But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.

www.biblegateway.com

 

[Winston]

For starters:

Children are a drain on one's time and financial resources.

Society allows degenerates to produce offspring, who often wind up being degenerates.

Many children are born simply because people are acting on the biological imperative to produce offspring, even though it's often an outdated drive from our evolutionary past that doesn't serve our more rational interests. This results in children being born into poverty and undesirable circumstances.

Based on the factors above, I'm curious why anyone would want to have kids, when the reality is that many people may be better off not.

Time and financial resources? You got to be kidding me.

As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth. Psalms 127:4

My quiver is full, I am one of the wealthiest people on the planet. Not financially, far from it. But when you die what you own means absolutely nothing, what you leave behind is all that matters.

My oldest daughter comes to visit me at work. Carrying her one year old, her other three behind, the oldest just graduated from high school. A coworker comes up to me, "You have a beautiful family", I can't help it, I fall out laughing and she looks at me puzzled. I tell her that what she saw was the tip of the iceberg. That was one child, I have six.

Dad called them my army, and that they are. They are thick as thieves, all in constant contact with one another. And every once in a while Dad would call me, "I need your army". Where and when was all I asked, then one phone call, to that oldest daughter, and BOOM, the army shows up and gets the job done.

And that oldest daughter puts it best. When people find out she has five siblings they kind of freak out. She tells them, Dad said we were put on this Earth to make it a better place. He figured he needed all the help he could get. And each and every one of them is doing just that. I can promise you, right now, at least one of my six children has impacted your life, they have made it better, safer.

I can die tomorrow, happy and content, because of what I leave behind. In reality, I have achieved immortality. Six kids, ten grandchildren and in that area, well things are just getting started. Another on the way, and certainly, many more to follow. That ten comes from the oldest four, maybe it is in the blood, Grandpaw had 16 brothers and sisters. That stent in your heart, patented by one of his siblings. The nuclear propulsion unit on US submarines, that is one of his sons. The next sixth generation fighter, the engine will be the design of one of my sons. He is the team leader working out of MIT.

No, you were put on this Earth for one damn reason, to perpetuate the species. If you are so self-absorbed that you refuse to fulfill your duty, no worries. Like I told my sister, I got your slack. In all reality, it is evolution in action and you can honestly see it in each new generation.

 

[Stryder50]

For starters:

Children are a drain on one's time and financial resources.

Society allows degenerates to produce offspring, who often wind up being degenerates.

Many children are born simply because people are acting on the biological imperative to produce offspring, even though it's often an outdated drive from our evolutionary past that doesn't serve our more rational interests. This results in children being born into poverty and undesirable circumstances.

Based on the factors above, I'm curious why anyone would want to have kids, when the reality is that many people may be better off not.

Too bad your parents didn't think the same and prevent you joining us in this world.
Please follow your advance and don not contribute personally to the human gene pool.
You self validate everything in your post.

 

[MayorQuimby]

And it doesn't matter who produces the offspring.

It does.

I don't want dark-haired, dark-eyed darkies producing offspring (I guess that means you as well?). I want light-haired, light-eyed white people producing offspring.

So as long as enlightened values continue to be passed on, everything is good.

Everything is not good. I don't want values passed on by darkies.

Though you probably only care about the skin color of the immigrants in question.

I wouldn't say "only", but it's a very key thing that I consider. Darkie immigrants, no matter how advanced their culture is, I don't want them here. I want more white boys.

Yes, it was rescinded. You'd have to completely ignore Paul and the fact that he didn't marry, and said that it's better not to marry and have children.

Paul said that it's better not to marry and have children unless you have to. Jesus and none of his disciples had children either:

Jesus, Paul and the rest of the disciples didn't have kids because they wanted to do the Lord's work. It's not because they thought having children was bad.

 

[Midnight FM]

No, you were put on this Earth for one damn reason, to perpetuate the species. If you are so self-absorbed that you refuse to fulfill your duty, no worries. Like I told my sister, I got your slack. In all reality, it is evolution in action and you can honestly see it in each new generation.

Evolution is bullshit. If you're going to quote the Bible, then Jesus, Paul, and Jesus' disciples didn't have children.

Reproduction is just a holdover from our primitive past, when survival was actually necessary. In the developed world, it isn't. And we see what happens when reproduction goes awry:



The purpose of life is self-actualization, not reproduction. Reproduction is ranked vary low on Maslow's hierarchy of needs, compared to superior needs such as love and self-actualization:

People who self-actualize contribute far more to the species than people who merely breed, like any animal can do. The accomplishments of men and women like Albert Einstein are legend, but some impoverished "breeder" who has 5 kids with 5 different baby mommies? No one has heard of them, and no one cares.

 

[Correll]

For starters:

Children are a drain on one's time and financial resources.

Society allows degenerates to produce offspring, who often wind up being degenerates.

Many children are born simply because people are acting on the biological imperative to produce offspring, even though it's often an outdated drive from our evolutionary past that doesn't serve our more rational interests. This results in children being born into poverty and undesirable circumstances.

Based on the factors above, I'm curious why anyone would want to have kids, when the reality is that many people may be better off not.

Do you remember the way you loved your mother?

 

[Hafar1014]

For starters:

Children are a drain on one's time and financial resources.

Society allows degenerates to produce offspring, who often wind up being degenerates.

Many children are born simply because people are acting on the biological imperative to produce offspring, even though it's often an outdated drive from our evolutionary past that doesn't serve our more rational interests. This results in children being born into poverty and undesirable circumstances.

Based on the factors above, I'm curious why anyone would want to have kids, when the reality is that many people may be better off not.

You shouldnt have any

 

[Correll]

Abortion methods have been available prior to the advent of the modern abortion clinic.

Actual infanticide, such as discarding children at birth, always existed, and still does. In some cases, it was a cultural practice, such as the ancient Spartans discarding physically "defective" children, presumably because they lacked the modern medical care required to care for such children.


Your point being what? Europe today isn't what it was during the days of ancient Rome either. And during those days, Rome is where civilization was. The Europeans were the barbarians. Who cares?

And it doesn't matter who produces the offspring. What matters is who controls the culture. Countries like Europe are made up of many institutions which influence the culture moreso than who the parents of the offspring are. If the parents were the only ones who influenced the culture of their offspring, there would be no "Europe", every family would just be its own tribe or clan.

So as long as enlightened values continue to be passed on, everything is good. Though you probably only care about the skin color of the immigrants in question.

But, enlightment values will not continue. That is teh point, and you playing dumb about it, is just you being dishonest.

 

[Winston]

Evolution is bullshit. If you're going to quote the Bible, then Jesus, Paul, and Jesus' disciples didn't have children.

Reproduction is just a holdover from our primitive past, when survival was actually necessary. In the developed world, it isn't. And we see what happens when reproduction goes awry:



The purpose of life is self-actualization, not reproduction. Reproduction is ranked vary low on Maslow's hierarchy of needs, compared to superior needs such as love and self-actualization:

People who self-actualize contribute far more to the species than people who merely breed, like any animal can do. The accomplishments of men and women like Albert Einstein are legend, but some impoverished "breeder" who has 5 kids with 5 different baby mommies? No one has heard of them, and no one cares.

You are completely wrong. Peter was married. Hell, Jesus cured his mother in law. Philip had four daughters. It is not unrealistic, and is pretty much accepted, that several of the disciples had children. And no, Paul did not, but Paul did not teach that one should not have children, nor did he teach that one should not take a wife. Far from that, he taught that one should not have a wife, or children, until they understood themselves. And that is good advice.

As to Maslow, yes, reproduction is on the bottom rung, but, who is to say that self-actualization doesn't include having children? The most you can be? Now go back to Psalms, as I quoted, children are arrows in a quiver. My children are my army. I am a better man, a stronger man, than I would be without them.

 

[MayorQuimby]

But, enlightment values will not continue. That is teh point, and you playing dumb about it, is just you being dishonest.

You are completely wrong. Peter was married. Hell, Jesus cured his mother in law. Philip had four daughters. It is not unrealistic, and is pretty much accepted, that several of the disciples had children. And no, Paul did not, but Paul did not teach that one should not have children, nor did he teach that one should not take a wife. Far from that, he taught that one should not have a wife, or children, until they understood themselves. And that is good advice.

As to Maslow, yes, reproduction is on the bottom rung, but, who is to say that self-actualization doesn't include having children? The most you can be? Now go back to Psalms, as I quoted, children are arrows in a quiver. My children are my army. I am a better man, a stronger man, than I would be without them.

God people. Stop taking the fed seriously.