Why We Don't Have Universal Health Care.

[Woodznutz]

I truly can't understand why liberals want to put our health care in the hands of miscreant politicians like Trump.

Why not? Trump sets a good example. He doesn't drink or smoke, gets his exercise (although he could lose a few pounds).

 

[AsherN]

The people in America don't want socialized medicine. They prefer to see doctors of their own choice and not to be subject to financial assrapery

You can only see doctors in your insurance's network. If you change job and insurance, you can no longer see that doctor. I can see any doctor, any specialist. If my doctor orders a test, no drone whose job it is to deny is denying it.

 

[AsherN]

75% of people in Canada have a private plan to supplement the public plan.

I am all for a good look at some form of public health care.

At the state level.

I don't need CA bankrupting the rest of the system by trying to care for half of Mexico.

The private plan covers things like drugs, dental, chiro, etc. Doctors, tests, hospitals, all covered.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Those who can't afford healthcare need to take good care of their health. Of course, this isn't as easy as it sounds.

Poor person: "How can I have better health?"
Doctor: "Take these pills."

More like:

Eat less crap

Walk 20 minutes a day.

That's good health.

 

[Stryder50]

You know, like all the other developed nations (among others) have. The reason is because of the Insurance industry and the money they can get politicians to take. I say we hang the insurance industry out to dry.

You will then be paying for your medical needs out of your own pocket.
Also, it's likely many medical practitioners will move on to more lucrative and less stressful occupations.

 

[Woodznutz]

You will then be paying for your medical needs out of your own pocket.
Also, it's likely many medical practitioners will move on to more lucrative and less stressful occupations.

Doctors leave because of low pay. It's the nurses that bear most of the stress.

 

[Woodznutz]

More like:

Eat less crap

Walk 20 minutes a day.

That's good health.

Easier said than done. People don't want to give up their cherished bad habits. I'm guilty as well, still drinking coffee, too much salt, workaholic. That said I'm pretty healthy for 85.

 

[Woodznutz]

You can only see doctors in your insurance's network. If you change job and insurance, you can no longer see that doctor. I can see any doctor, any specialist. If my doctor orders a test, no drone whose job it is to deny is denying it.

I had a great doctor for many years. Then my company changed insurers, now I get interns only, no doctors. Their residency only lasts one year and they move on. So, I never know who I'm going to see next time. Of course, their supervisor comes in and confirms their diagnosis (and bills my insurer) but that's not like having a long-term doctor. I don't even get the same supervisor.

 

[Stryder50]

Doctors leave because of low pay. It's the nurses that bear most of the stress.

Nurses are leaving too.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Because we're not a socialist country.

The means of production? Obviously you don't know the difference between Socialism and Social Democracy

 

[Woodznutz]

Nurses are leaving too.

Worse yet, enrollments in nursing schools are down.

 

[PeterPilot]

Because we're not a socialist country.

No, we're a fascist country with an unholy marriage between government and corporate donors.

 

[HikerGuy83]

You can only see doctors in your insurance's network. If you change job and insurance, you can no longer see that doctor.

Generally not true.

I can see any doctor, any specialist. If my doctor orders a test, no drone whose job it is to deny is denying it.

If you are defending a socialized health care system, that's fine.

Both have good and bad attributes.

I have never had a test denied.

I am sure it happens, but I doubt it is as common as some might believe.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

That is true.

Only Certain Truths Will Make You Free

All because commoners refuse to recognize hereditary power as the root of all evil. It makes for an inferior ruling class and its flunkies. Incompetents can only survive through tyranny.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

We do to a point.

Deflection Infection

We can point fingers, but the Meme Lords will twist them off-target.

 

[dblack]

All because commoners refuse to recognize hereditary power as the root of all evil.

The kind of "we-know-better" government that would be necessary to actually prevent parents from giving things to the children is root of all evil.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

That 'trickle' is actually a flood.

What Happens When the World Is Upside Down

Defying gravity, the flood goes upward to the parasites at the top. The people who actually produce it might get the overflow. But the rulers are constantly building levees to cut off even that trickle.

 

[Papageorgio]

You know, like all the other developed nations (among others) have. The reason is because of the Insurance industry and the money they can get politicians to take. I say we hang the insurance industry out to dry.

The closest to doing that was Obama and he could not do that because it would have cost him and the Democratic Party billions from the insurance companies, big pharma, AMA and other groups that make big money off insurance.

 

[HikerGuy83]

That said I'm pretty healthy for 85.

 

[Twisted Gypsy Child]

Nurses are leaving too.

Not me