Why We Don't Have Universal Health Care.

[dblack]

Everything you say there dblack is contradicted by the Preamble to the Constitution and by the Declaration of Independence.

No, it's not.

Why should I give your claims any credibility?

I don't need you to give me anything.

 

[Hafar1014]

You know, like all the other developed nations (among others) have. The reason is because of the Insurance industry and the money they can get politicians to take. I say we hang the insurance industry out to dry.

The NHS in the UK is collapsing. Its out of funds, DRs leaving in large numbers, wait times months even years. Socialized health care never works. You pay more and get a lower quality and there is zero i ovation in treatments and drugs. Yt in the UK they pay more taxes and have a lower living standard than America and it still went broke.

 

[Hafar1014]

Can't do it. We are capitalists. It would hurt the bottom line of for profit healthcare.

Instead of squandering hundreds of billions of dollars on Ukraine and trillions of dollars on wasted garbage, our useless politicians could have given us a cheap, socialized healthcare plan; alongside with the standard healthcare we have in America. (The rich don't want socialized healthcare and the average person can't afford the system we have...so we need 2 systems.) People that can't afford America's unaffordable healthcare could get their appendix out before it bursts.

If they need a heart transplant, then go work 3 jobs and save up for 6 years to pay for it. The socialized plan would be for basics to keep it viable. But the American healthcare system is so greedy they don't want to lose a penny and would never accept a 2nd option. Plus, our politicians are absolute nincompoops and could never run a socialized healthcare system anyway.

Do you think the turtle will get your socialized healthcare?

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The NHS in the UK is collapsing. Its out of funds, DRs leaving in large numbers, wait times months even years. Socialized health care never works. You pay more and get a lower quality and there is zero i ovation in treatments and drugs. Yt in the UK they pay more taxes and have a lower living standard than America and it still went broke. There is zero mental heralth care for children. You have to pay yourself.

 

[Hafar1014]

The whole of US politics is run by the rich, for the rich. "We the people...." is nonsense, the people don't really get a say.

Then dont vote for democrats unless youre a criminal or an illegal

 

[Hafar1014]

FACT = We've had universal healthcare ever since Reagan was president.

False not even remotely true

 

[Hafar1014]

Israel does and the USA gives money to Israel. Before the AIPAC shills say I am lying, let me show you how Israel health care is funded. Now you prove to me that USA tax dollars are not used for the "government" contributions.


Israel's healthcare system is primarily funded through a combination of public and private sources, with a strong emphasis on universal coverage. The system is based on the National Health Insurance Law, which mandates that all residents are covered by one of four non-profit health plans. Funding is derived from income tax, a health tax, and government contributions.

The NHS in the UK is collapsing. Its out of funds, DRs leaving in large numbers, wait times months even years. Socialized health care never works. You pay more and get a lower quality and there is zero i ovation in treatments and drugs. Yt in the UK they pay more taxes and have a lower living standard than America and it still went broke. There is zero mental heralth care for children. You have to pay yourself.

 

[Twisted Gypsy Child]

The NHS in the UK is collapsing. Its out of funds, DRs leaving in large numbers, wait times months even years. Socialized health care never works. You pay more and get a lower quality and there is zero i ovation in treatments and drugs. Yt in the UK they pay more taxes and have a lower living standard than America and it still went broke. There is zero mental heralth care for children. You have to pay yourself.

Israel has it and it is fine. Unfortunately the US pays for part of it
Sounds like UK does not manage it well.

 

[Captain Caveman]

The NHS in the UK is collapsing. Its out of funds, DRs leaving in large numbers, wait times months even years. Socialized health care never works. You pay more and get a lower quality and there is zero i ovation in treatments and drugs. Yt in the UK they pay more taxes and have a lower living standard than America and it still went broke.

It isn't, you're just dumb enough to listen to the idiots like Tommy Tit, the Labourites and Corbynites.

You carry on paying double for healthcare, that indicates the level of Yank braincells.

 

[Hafar1014]

Israel has it and it is fine. Unfortunately the US pays for part of it
Sounds like UK does not manage it well.

Israel has a universal healthcare system, mandated by law since 1995, that is often described as a managed competition model, not strictly socialized medicine, but with strong elements of socialized care. All residents are required to join one of four non-profit, public health insurance funds (Kupat Holim) that provide a comprehensive package of services funded through mandatory health taxes. While the core benefits are nationally defined and accessible, residents can also purchase supplemental private insurance for additional services.

Its an exception most socialized systems dont work because its the government.

 

[Twisted Gypsy Child]

Israel has a universal healthcare system, mandated by law since 1995, that is often described as a managed competition model, not strictly socialized medicine, but with strong elements of socialized care. All residents are required to join one of four non-profit, public health insurance funds (Kupat Holim) that provide a comprehensive package of services funded through mandatory health taxes. While the core benefits are nationally defined and accessible, residents can also purchase supplemental private insurance for additional services.

Its an exception most socialized systems dont work because its the government.

I do not need a definition. I gave you an example and it works. Consider a bra

 

[braalian]

Because I don’t feel like paying for fat lazy people who cause most of their own health conditions

You’re paying for them via the high premiums you pay through whatever health insurance you pay into. They’re the reason insurance is so expensive

 

[there4eyeM]

"Universal healthcare" could be considered a very large term. General, affordable healthcare could easily be afforded with the present amount spent each year, if the interests of the general population counted instead of the interests of the installed, empowered lobbyists.

 

[the watcher]

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[Captain Caveman]

Israel has a universal healthcare system, mandated by law since 1995, that is often described as a managed competition model, not strictly socialized medicine, but with strong elements of socialized care. All residents are required to join one of four non-profit, public health insurance funds (Kupat Holim) that provide a comprehensive package of services funded through mandatory health taxes. While the core benefits are nationally defined and accessible, residents can also purchase supplemental private insurance for additional services.

Its an exception most socialized systems dont work because its the government.

You're the only country that has nothing but expensive, crap, private healthcare. That speaks volumes on why you have a shit life expectancy rate.

 

[Captain Caveman]

PeterPilot you went quiet. How is the NHS structured in the UK, what percentage is funded by government, how does the government interface with the NHS, how does private healthcare and the NHS interact, does the government lose court cases with the NHS, and what percentage of Bits have healthcare cover?

When Americans say, "I don't want government running my healthcare", that just shows their knowledge is so small on the subject, you get one one-hundreth of a postage stamp and write it all down on that.

 

[Hafar1014]

PeterPilot you went quiet. How is the NHS structured in the UK, what percentage is funded by government, how does the government interface with the NHS, how does private healthcare and the NHS interact, does the government lose court cases with the NHS, and what percentage of Bits have healthcare cover?

When Americans say, "I don't want government running my healthcare", that just shows their knowledge is so small on the subject, you get one one-hundreth of a postage stamp and write it all down on that.

Socialized medicine always goes broke and lowers the quality if care which costs more because its the government stupid

 

[Dekster]

universal healthcare like the NHS would be a logistical nightmare in the US because of the sheer size of the country. It would be like the DoD--impossible to audit because of the 24/7 money out every second of the day

 

[Hafar1014]

universal healthcare like the NHS would be a logistical nightmare in the US because of the sheer size of the country. It would be like the DoD--impossible to audit because of the 24/7 money out every second of the day

Its a nightmare in the UK because its the government

 

[Dekster]

Its a nightmare in the UK because its the government

England is about the size of Alabama or Georgia.

 

[braalian]

England is about the size of Alabama or Georgia.

Geographically

If it were a state, it’d be the most populous one.