Why We Don't Have Universal Health Care.

[dblack]

You might not be able to, but we certainly could. People would definitely have to embrace the sense of society that has produced common firefighting, common police, common defense and many other aspects that some individuals don't value.

That sounds like a "no".

 

[there4eyeM]

That sounds like a "no".

To you, doubtless it would.

 

[dblack]

To you, doubtless it would.

What's that mean?

 

[AsherN]

If Canada’s healthcare is so good, why do Canadians need private insurance?

The private insurance pays for stuff like dental, drugs, massage, chiro, etc. Not care delivered through a medical doctor.

 

[BrokeLoser]

You know, like all the other developed nations (among others) have. The reason is because of the Insurance industry and the money they can get politicians to take. I say we hang the insurance industry out to dry.

Because we have too many illegals, too many dark people/bottom feeders…we can’t work like those all white nations can.
This is the part where you tell us how awesome the nordic nations are.

 

[BrokeLoser]

The whole of US politics is run by the rich, for the rich. "We the people...." is nonsense, the people don't really get a say.

Filthy begging Libs have fucked themselves out of all kinds of free shit by begging for free shit for Mexico….hahahaha….You can’t and won’t get out of your own way.

 

[Captain Caveman]

You know, like all the other developed nations (among others) have. The reason is because of the Insurance industry and the money they can get politicians to take. I say we hang the insurance industry out to dry.

Universal healthcare means 100% of the population have healthcare. The cost of the healthcare in the UK is half of the cost in the US, and you can speed it up by simply paying.

The word healthcare in the US can all too often be swiftly followed with the word bankruptcy.

 

[Papageorgio]

Universal healthcare means 100% of the population have healthcare. The cost of the healthcare in the UK is half of the cost in the US, and you can speed it up by simply paying.

The word healthcare in the US can all too often be swiftly followed with the word bankruptcy.

To do that we need to increase everyone’s taxes up to near 50% or above.

 

[dblack]

We're trying to convert our government into an insurance company.

 

[dblack]

We're trying to convert our government into an insurance company.

An insurance company with a military and police to do their bidding.

 

[Captain Caveman]

To do that we need to increase everyone’s taxes up to near 50% or above.

Correct, about half the cost of what you pay out in premiums.

 

[Papageorgio]

Correct, about half the cost of what you pay out in premiums.

Depends on how much you make and if you get benefits that cover insurance or not.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Depends on how much you make and if you get benefits that cover insurance or not.

It's all based on averages. The average monthly US healthcare premium per person is around double the taxation paid per month in the UK per person, on average.

There are winners and losers in life. Some contribute more, some contribute less. Everyone's taxation pays for schools, some don't have kids. You have to have a system for all, you can't have several million variations.

 

[dblack]

You have to have a system for all, you can't have several million variations.

No, we don't have to force everyone into one 'system'. We can decide for ourselves how to live. It's called freedom.

 

[Captain Caveman]

We don't have to force everyone into one 'system'. We can decide for ourselves how to live. It's called freedom.

Well, in case you didn't know, you have the freedom to go grab some braincells.

 

[dblack]

Well, in case you didn't know, you have the freedom to go grab some braincells.

Good answer, good answer!

 

[Papageorgio]

It's all based on averages. The average monthly US healthcare premium per person is around double the taxation paid per month in the UK per person, on average.

There are winners and losers in life. Some contribute more, some contribute less. Everyone's taxation pays for schools, some don't have kids. You have to have a system for all, you can't have several million variations.

The United States pays more than any other country for K-12 government education and it is not that great, I have little faith that our government will do anything for less or better. The best way to screw something up is letting the government handle it.

 

[Captain Caveman]

The United States pays more than any other country for K-12 government education and it is not that great, I have little faith that our government will do anything for less or better. The best way to screw something up is letting the government handle it.

Just tidying up the files section on my phone. Found this screenshot from 5 years ago -

Here's a current screenshot of the UK -

And a current screenshot of the US -

So $13,432 USA and $5,670 UK (At current exchange rate). The difference being $7,762. If you had a state healthcare system, you could save the $7,762, and then if you need to use it and felt the waiting time is too long (varies on the procedure), then just pay for parts or all of it privately to be seen next day.

 

[dblack]

Just tidying up the files section on my phone. Found this screenshot from 5 years ago -

Yeah. There's no question health care costs too much. The question is why? What's broken? To me, it's pretty obvious. Health care costs so much because no one cares what their health care costs.

So $13,432 USA and $5,670 UK (At current exchange rate). The difference being $7,762. If you had a state healthcare system, you could save the $7,762, and then if you need to use it and felt the waiting time is too long (varies on the procedure), then just pay for parts or all of it privately to be seen next day.

Yep. We could do the same thing with groceries. If government took over food production and distribution, and cut out all those for-profit farmers and grocery stores gouging their customers, think of the money "we" could save. Housing too. What's else?

 

[Papageorgio]

Just tidying up the files section on my phone. Found this screenshot from 5 years ago -

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Here's a current screenshot of the UK -

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And a current screenshot of the US -

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So $13,432 USA and $5,670 UK (At current exchange rate). The difference being $7,762. If you had a state healthcare system, you could save the $7,762, and then if you need to use it and felt the waiting time is too long (varies on the procedure), then just pay for parts or all of it privately to be seen next day.

However here in the United States, government run school has produced the highest per capita cost of education in the world and has produced mediocre results at best. I don’t want to risk my health care going down while costs soar.