Why We Don't Have Universal Health Care.

[Papageorgio]

You will probably call them from a "far left nut site," but here it is.



The American Prospect
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Republicans Are Cutting Medicare. Not Only Medicaid, Medicare. - The American Prospect


Kiplinger
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Four Proposed Changes to Medicare in the One Big Beautiful Bill Act — and What Ended Up in the Signed Bill | Kiplinger


Now having said that, as you probably know, there are people who don't have kind things to say about Trump. But truthful opinions about Trump goes equally for those who support him. So in seeing this video, just imagine that the highly intelligent person speaking is speaking about YOU and all the other Trump supporters around here.

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I’m not seeing anything wrong with capping payouts to big corporate hospitals.

 

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Yep and the government won’t approve the generic brands Synactthen Depot or Biosimilar ACTH. Two alternatives that are used in Canada and Europe, I wonder why big government is blocking a big pharma drug?

"Big government" isn't the problem you moron. Big business is! Because big businesses like the insurance industry and the pharmaceutical industry have big money to bribe politicians with. Also, I looked up the drugs that can be used as an alternative to Acthar. The drugs you mentioned weren't even brought up.

 

[Papageorgio]

"Big government" isn't the problem you moron. Big business is! Because big businesses like the insurance industry and the pharmaceutical industry have big money to bribe politicians with.

Politicians are a key part of government moron.

 

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If Canada’s healthcare is so good, why do Canadians need private insurance?

What does that matter. Canadian people don't pay for it. There is only one instance where the Canadian people will personally pay for health insurance. That is for the time that they expect to be visiting the U.S. Because Canada has universal health care. The U.S. doesn't.

 

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Government is as greedy as big business, at least businesses produce things.

You're full of SHITTTTTTTT!!!!!!!! Sore, politicians are corrupt-greedy. But republicans are far worse in that regard than democrats. Also, politicians can be voted out of office. Business leaders can't. Another thing is that one of the main things businesses produce is a need for Unions.

 

[Papageorgio]

What does that matter. Canadian people don't pay for it. There is only one instance where the Canadian people will personally pay for health insurance. That is for the time that they expect to be visiting the U.S. Because Canada has universal health care. The U.S. doesn't.

Wow! Just wow!
Look it up if you don’t believe me.

Canadians often get supplemental insurance to cover:

Prescription drugs (a major cost outside hospitals)
Dental Care
Vision Care
Mental health services
Paramedical services like massage therapy or acupuncture
Travel medical insurance (for trips outside Canada)
Private hospital rooms

Go ahead prove me wrong.

 

[Papageorgio]

You're full of SHITTTTTTTT!!!!!!!! Sore, politicians are corrupt-greedy. But republicans are far worse in that regard than democrats. Also, politicians can be voted out of office. Business leaders can't. Another thing is that one of the main things businesses produce is a need for Unions.

I never said which side is worse, my proof is for the last 200 years we have had Republicans or Democrats ruling and every time they side with big business, how do you believe they got too big to fail? It takes two and neither side has put the kibosh on big business.

Business leaders can lose jobs and often do, we also have career politicians that are so deep with businesses that both parties make million off of insider trading. Obama signed a veto proof bipartisan bill that widened the wealth gap, Trump signed a veto proof bipartisan Covid bill and then Biden signed another veto proof bipartisan Covid bill and both bills benefited the rich far more than the average Americans.

As long as the two parties keep Americans fighting about the two parties, the Democratic and Republican parties and the rich win.

 

[there4eyeM]

It boils down to a difference of philosophy. Thinking of good health as something valuable to a human for pleasant living is one way to look at the situation. Another is thinking of how to profit the most from what people need to spend for good health. What is spent at this time in the U.S. for healthcare could buy us all a better system.

 

[Lisa558]

It boils down to a difference of philosophy. Thinking of good health as something valuable to a human for pleasant living is one way to look at the situation. Another is thinking of how to profit the most from what people need to spend for good health. What is spent at this time in the U.S. for healthcare could buy us all a better system.

But that’s just saying let the government pay for it instead of holding the healthcare system itself responsible for the astronomical cost. Why should they charge $30 for an aspirin or $40 for a daily “blanket rental fee”? For that matter, why should it cost $16,000 to spend a few hours in an ER, get a CAT scan to determine the problem, and then be discharged?

We can begin to solve this by requiring all providers to disclose their fees BEFORE the buyer makes a purchase. In what other industry do people buy something and then later - weeks later, via a bill - find out how much it cost?

 

[there4eyeM]

But that’s just saying let the government pay for it instead of holding the healthcare system itself responsible for the astronomical cost. Why should they charge $30 for an aspirin or $40 for a daily “blanket rental fee”? For that matter, why should it cost $16,000 to spend a few hours in an ER, get a CAT scan to determine the problem, and then be discharged?

We can begin to solve this by requiring all providers to disclose their fees BEFORE the buyer makes a purchase. In what other industry do people buy something and then later - weeks later, via a bill - find out how much it cost?

Nothing in the quoted post said anything about government, let alone "paying for it".

 

[Ringo]

An American went to the hospital for the first time in his life. He spent less than two hours in the emergency room due to high blood pressure. There was no surgery or MRI, just basic tests and a quick examination. For this pleasure, he was presented with a bill for $41,297.
Superpower...

 

[JohnDB]

You know, like all the other developed nations (among others) have. The reason is because of the Insurance industry and the money they can get politicians to take. I say we hang the insurance industry out to dry.

Because it's been proven to be a failure everywhere in the world its been tried.

 

[Dekster]

No it does not you moron.

It proposes the amendments.

A proposed amendment becomes part of the Constitution as soon as it is ratified by three-fourths of the States (38 of 50 States). When the OFR verifies that it has received the required number of authenticated ratification documents, it drafts a formal proclamation for the Archivist to certify that the amendment is valid and has become part of the Constitution. This certification is published in the Federal Register and U.S. Statutes at Large and serves as official notice to the Congress and to the Nation that the amendment process has been completed.

Technically no. It needs to be ratified within the time allotted by Congress which is why the Equal Right Amendment still isn't part of the Constitution.

 

[dblack]

We don't have "universal" health care because we don't want King Donald to be in charge of our health care. We don't want politicians dictating how we deal with our personal needs.

 

[Lisa558]

We don't have "universal" health care because we don't want King Donald to be in charge of our health care. We don't want politicians dictating how we deal with our personal needs.

But King Obama was the one who was pushing universal health care and came up with Obamacare as a compromise.

 

[there4eyeM]

Nothing in the quoted post said anything about government, let alone "paying for it".

Healthcare is presently provided in the U.S. by those who pay for it. The fact is too much is paid and not enough is provided. For the same expenditure, a better system is possible. We are an inventive people and can certainly come up with new ideas and approaches that will accomplish what should be done.

 

[hondo 50]

You live in the universe. Take care of your health. Next...

 

[dblack]

Healthcare is presently provided in the U.S. by those who pay for it. The fact is too much is paid and not enough is provided. For the same expenditure, a better system is possible. We are an inventive people and can certainly come up with new ideas and approaches that will accomplish what should be done.

Can you do it without violence? Without passing laws forcing people to support your "system" against their will?

 

[dblack]

But King Obama was the one who was pushing universal health care and came up with Obamacare as a compromise.

Yep. Same shit, different party.

 

[there4eyeM]

Can you do it without violence? Without passing laws forcing people to support your "system" against their will?

You might not be able to, but we certainly could. People would definitely have to embrace the sense of society that has produced common firefighting, common police, common defense and many other aspects that some individuals don't value.