Zone1 Why wa should celebrate DEI

[Tommy Tainant]

Nope. The white poor suffered by having to compete with slave labor.

Your claim is clearly false, the moment it is examined at all.


Mmm, do you think that calling them names, is somehow an argument? lol.

You do, don't you?


Man, lefties are so used to not thinking, that they CAN'T make a supporting argument. At all.

Why is ny claim false ? It is self evidently correct. Legislation is always needed to right the wrongs in our society.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Is the argument about what happened 200 years ago, or DEI vs Meritocracy of today?

You have me confused, Tommy, you argue one thing and then morph it to something entirely different.
Meritocracy is the best person for the job. Not considering the gender, or color, etc..
In other words, a level playing field.

America has never had a meritocracy. DEI helps towards that.
What you argue for is an inbuilt white superiority. Trump is giving you that which is why you love him.

 

[Meister]

America has never had a meritocracy. DEI helps towards that.
What you argue for is an inbuilt white superiority. Trump is giving you that which is why you love him.

DEI just swings against meritocracy, Tommie.
The last administration proved that out.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

The things you say are so stupid that I often wondering if you are merely a POE.

You know you could make a case to back that up.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

DEI just swings against meritocracy, Tommie.
The last administration proved that out.

Civil rights act was needed to enforce meritocracy. In the US and further afaild. There was no meritocracy anywhere on earth before that.
Colonialism proved that.

 

[Meister]

Civil rights act was needed to enforce meritocracy. In the US and further afaild. There was no meritocracy anywhere on earth before that.
Colonialism proved that.

Your argument keeps changing from your thread title. Not sure WTH you are debating now.

 

[irosie91]

You need to explain that. Give an example.

personal experience. The most ardent of the DEI
Swallowers including the Profs thereof were beyond
stupid and did not even know the contents of the HUGE
required reading assigned (by the idiot prof.) Biology is
my field---during my college years just about all the
DEI swallowers ignored actual physiology and insisted that
GENDER did not exist-----"we" is all the same----uhm. I will
not get into the hormonal influence on brain ontogeny. ----
me? I read the books---both the biology, developmental
neurology and the flamboyant UTOPIA FANTASIES---from
Bellamy thru '1984' with Marx and the excruciating Balkunin
in between---and was amazed at how DU BOIS was trashed
and semi-sanctified by the brain dead

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Your argument keeps changing from your thread title. Not sure WTH you are debating now.

I am making one argument. You are struggling to articulate a coherent response.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

personal experience. The most ardent of the DEI
Swallowers including the Profs thereof were beyond
stupid and did not even know the contents of the HUGE
required reading assigned (by the idiot prof.) Biology is
my field---during my college years just about all the
DEI swallowers ignored actual physiology and insisted that
GENDER did not exist-----"we" is all the same----uhm. I will
not get into the hormonal influence on brain ontogeny. ----
me? I read the books---both the biology, developmental
neurology and the flamboyant UTOPIA FANTASIES---from
Bellamy thru '1984' with Marx and the excruciating Balkunin
in between---and was amazed at how DU BOIS was trashed
and semi-sanctified by the brain dead

Could you make that a bit simpler. Or even readable.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

You know you could make a case to back that up.

Yes, there is SO much material to work with.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Well you agree with a lot of what I am saying but not the principle. DEI is a corrective to abuse of the ruling majority. It just ensures the fair play missing from much of history.

Then what you're talking about is retribution, not DEI.

DEI in its true and objective form is: Diversity of ALL races, genders and demographics and Inclusion should be the same. As for Equity, I cannot get on board with an idea that promotes equal outcomes among beings so diverse in their abilities, intelligence, drive and quality of work.

 

[Meister]

I am making one argument. You are struggling to articulate a coherent response.

Because you rcan't comprehend the fact that DEI is just another term for AFFIRMATIVE ACTION.!
You have to run to 1800, to make a point.

 

[Correll]

All white men were beneficiaries. Not least by the exclusion of people of colour from employment opportunities. The fact that some folk were too useless to take advantage of this is not germane.

Nope. The vast majority of poor whites were farmers, and the slaves were certainly part of that "employment opportunty", so that's just not true.




You are trying to be insulting, "too useles", as a form of supporting argument.

That is just sad, that you don't even know how to make a supporting argument for your idiotic claims.

 

[Correll]

Why is ny claim false ? It is self evidently correct. Legislation is always needed to right the wrongs in our society.

Because the use of slave labor did not benefit the poor white males.

So, your claim of white supremacy as a government principle is simply wrong.


You made a claim, I pointed out that it was wrong. Thus your claim is false.

This is simply shit Tommy. You need to be able to grasp it, in order for you to engage in discussion. This is a discussion site. That is the purpose of logging on here.

It is sad that I have to explain this shit to you.

 

[hadit]

Shouldnt women get paid the same as men for the same work ?

If they got paid less than men, only women would be hired.

 

[MarathonMike]

Back in medieval times people who were thought to be eccentric were burned as witches.
In victorian times the most famous institution was Bedlam. The carers at Bedlam used to open the doors every week so that nice people could go and watch the "crazies".

Napoleonic war veterans were forced to hobble around London selling matchbooks to keep a roof over their head.

Women couldnt vote. they couldnt even hold a bank account. Gays were jailed. Black folks were lynched and prevented from voting.

You know all this. Mankind has made progress over the centuries. None more so than the last century.

Do we want to go back as people ?

Shouldnt we look to protect the minorities in our societies ?

Shouldnt public services make accomodation for people who need more help ?
Shouldnt women get paid the same as men for the same work ?
Shouldnt ethnic minorities be protected from the racism we see still in our world ?
Shouldnt gay folk enjoy the same rights as anyone else ?

I find it difficult that I have to make this case but normality has left the building.
People who should know better now castigate DEI as an evil and not a benefit. That is beyond crazy.

We will all benefit from DEI at some stge in our lives.

Diversity, equity, and inclusion - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

DEI works perfectly for England and Wales. Go for it.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Then what you're talking about is retribution, not DEI.

DEI in its true and objective form is: Diversity of ALL races, genders and demographics and Inclusion should be the same. As for Equity, I cannot get on board with an idea that promotes equal outcomes among beings so diverse in their abilities, intelligence, drive and quality of work.

I cant help your lack of understanding. You seem to want a permanent underclass.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Because the use of slave labor did not benefit the poor white males.

So, your claim of white supremacy as a government principle is simply wrong.


You made a claim, I pointed out that it was wrong. Thus your claim is false.

This is simply shit Tommy. You need to be able to grasp it, in order for you to engage in discussion. This is a discussion site. That is the purpose of logging on here.

It is sad that I have to explain this shit to you.

No you gave me your opinion. Which is wrong.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

If they got paid less than men, only women would be hired.

The data does not reflect that.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

DEI works perfectly for England and Wales. Go for it.

It works for everyone.