Why there will always be poor people. Poverty has nothing to do with a lack of money. It's a state of mind.

[Woodznutz]

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How fortunate you are. We NEED to maintain the old arts and keep the skills that have been sent to other countries.

America was built on the fact that Americans knew how to make things.

I also aspire to learn to create textiles at home and as many other goods as we can.

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I worked as a meat cutter back in the day. I needed to know all the cuts needed to display and sell meat products. Today (dis)assembly lines are filled with low-skilled immigrants that make one or two cuts on a carcass as it moves along the line to another low-skilled immigrant who also makes a cut or two and so on. A wonderful trade ruined by cheap labor and corporate greed.

 

[Markle]

Actually, we need the workforce.
Unemployment is low and it is difficult to find those who will perform menial labor

 

[Woodznutz]

As long as you let people have freedom there will always be poor people.

The only way to not have poor people is to have a freedomless world with totalitarian rule where everyone is forced to be exactly the same. But the ones running the show will still have more than everyone else. You'd have to remove free will from humans.

Even cavemen had rich and poor because some would go out and hunt better and hunt more often and have more meat and more animal fur and so on.

Rich and poor have always existed because not everyone has the same potential. Very few can be Elon musk, more will be poor, and most are middle class. It's always been that way.

The idea every person is equal is a lie and untrue. Levels of potential and ambition vary. It's in our very nature and dna, it isn't some outside influence or stupid societal thing.

I could never be bill gates, bill gates could never be me, and there is some poor wretch out there that could never be me or Bill gates.

There's more. I've turned down high paying jobs so I could spend more time in the woods. I knew a guy who was a surveyor and made good money. He gave it up to start a trucking company as what he really wanted to do was play in big piles of dirt with an end loader and a big truck.

 

[rightwinger]

seriously

The immigrant workforce supports millions of US jobs | Brookings

Greg Wright, Dany Bahar, and Carlos Daboin discuss how the "complementarity index" can help identify parts of the immigrant workforce that create significant benefits for U.S. workers while supporting millions of U.S. jobs.

www.brookings.edu

 

[rightwinger]

The government is like the police (they investigate crime, they don't prevent it). They are reactionary, not proactive. We need prevention more than cure.

"An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." Still true.

A simplistic and erroneous view

 

[Woodznutz]

A simplistic and erroneous view

Works for me, my family, and the company I work for. It would work for everyone if they weren't so f-cked up in the head.

 

[Markle]

I worked as a meat cutter back in the day. I needed to know all the cuts needed to display and sell meat products. Today (dis)assembly lines are filled with low-skilled immigrants that make one or two cuts on a carcass as it moves along the line to another low-skilled immigrant who also makes a cut or two and so on. A wonderful trade ruined by cheap labor and corporate greed.

When I turned 16, I got a job bagging groceries at my local Food Fair store. Over the years, I worked in most departments, including the meat department. We had real butchers—half a steer or hog came in on a hook running on an overhead rail. It was probably illegal, but I learned a few things I use to this day. I can split a whole chicken into pieces in a heartbeat!

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

When I turned 16, I got a job bagging groceries at my local Food Fair store. Over the years, I worked in most departments, including the meat department. We had real butchers—half a steer or hog came in on a hook running on an overhead rail. It was probably illegal, but I learned a few things I use to this day. I can split a whole chicken into pieces in a heartbeat!

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Cutting up a chicken is one of the things I never learned to do. My mom was amazing at it because she worked at a KFC where it's a skill she learned.

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[Blues Man]

#1) Those places aren't 1st world industrialized nations, were such conditions aren't (yet) a problem.

#2) Appeal to emotion isn't an argument.

It's a fact not emotion.

 

[Woodznutz]

When I turned 16, I got a job bagging groceries at my local Food Fair store. Over the years, I worked in most departments, including the meat department. We had real butchers—half a steer or hog came in on a hook running on an overhead rail. It was probably illegal, but I learned a few things I use to this day. I can split a whole chicken into pieces in a heartbeat!

We got our beef in quarters. You'd need 12-foot ceilings to handle sides.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

I look at it as…

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he will eat for the rest of his life

But what happens when all the fish in your pond are gone?

Move to another pond.

 

[rightwinger]

Move to another pond.

Thats the idea..

But not every fisherman has the resources to move
And not every pond welcomes new Fishermen

 

[Woodznutz]

Thats the idea..

But not every fisherman has the resources to move
And not every pond welcomes new Fishermen

Let the pond come to you.

 

[Oddball]

It's a fact not emotion.

No, it's an appeal to emotion.

 

[whitehall]

The only way the government can promote the general welfare is to encroach on the freedoms of people. Not likely to happen.

Low energy costs, lower taxes, support for law enforcement, strict immigration policies and less restrictions on business and economic growth certainly does not encroach on freedoms and in fact enhances them.

 

[Woodznutz]

Low energy costs, lower taxes, support for law enforcement, strict immigration policies and less restrictions on business and economic growth certainly does not encroach on freedoms and in fact enhances them.

Safety and health are virtually ignored by government.

 

[whitehall]

Safety and health are virtually ignored by government.

After we went through the fascism of Covid restrictions you still think government ignores safety and health? I would submit that government interferes with safety and health more than it enhances it.

 

[Woodznutz]

After we went through the fascism of Covid restrictions you still think government ignores safety and health? I would submit that government interferes with safety and health more than it enhances it.

The government thinks too much in terms of socialism instead of personal responsibility. They rely solely on bean counters for their information instead of studying subjects and events carefully to arrive at policy decisions.