Why the Roman Catholic Papacy is viewed by many as the 1st Beast of Revelation Chapter 13

Now you opened the door for the rest of rev 13.

The number 666.
Jesus =666 in kabbalah,
but also in the ascll numerology used to secret numbers from names Baal Jesus (meaning lord Jesus)=666
Father and son as one -his father being satan-Baal, means that his name Jesus Baal=666
>To buy and sell
They had Jesus coins where no Islamic would be allowed to buy or sell without this mark of the beast. They also had SUN Coins and other coins which =666 in it’s collumns but also blatantly had it marked with the number 666.
Researchers believe the coins were used as currency during the Fatimid period by Christians seeking to evangelize Muslims. The recent find also proves during the Middle ages, in and about the area of Tiberius and the Sea of Galilee, only Christians could buy and sell goods.
Today Christians use the mark of death the cross (mark of the beast) and fish symbol in yellow page ads, signs, & trade papers, to symbolize buying and selling with other beast worshipers.
Did they take on the name? Jesuits, so yes.

The first Beast of Rev.13 has a mouth speaking haughtywords (Jesus). He sits in his high heaven saying ," I AM , God ." The second (tHE VATICAN CHURCH)causesall to worship this Beast, Paul is the False Prophet Peter who sets up his worship ESTABLISHING THIS CHURCH OF SATAN.

Fact: scripture about the time of these events, clearly show these events were to occur in that generation, even specifically mentioning that, like in: (I John 2:18, Rev 1:1,3,9,19, Rev 3:11,
Rev 22:6,7,10,12,Matthew 24:31-34?)
So the beast is not to come, John of Patmos said the anti anointed was already there in his day.

(2 Corinthians 4:4)& even preachers tell you that Satan is the god & Rule of this world=Pope & Vatican claims.

Dan 9:26- And after the sixty-two weeks, an annointed one will be cut off, the people of a RULER THAT SHALL COME shall destroy the city and the sanctuary, -that leads to this rime period-where an annointed priest, High Priest Onias III, who was assasinated (cut off) in 171 BCE. In 168 BCE, the middle of the next "week" of years (171-165 BCE), ruler Antiochus IV (who had Onias killed) pillaged Jerusalem. Antiochus IV matches the "ruler to come", and Daniel coninues to refer to his deeds in the middle of the week: - 9:27- They (Romans) did cause the sacrifice to cease. Once again this matches what the Roman Army did in 70 A.D., so the destruction of Jerusalem in 70ad occurred after Michael left according to Rev 12, just as in Daniels time. So this will not occur in our time, it was fulfilled.
example: by combining Luke 21:24 & Romans 11:25 by history of that era, shows that Revelation 11:1-3 occurred in aprox 70ad.
Now read the events that already occured:
REV 13:3 One of it's (3)heads seemed to have a mortal wound (gashes of thorns), but its mortal wound was healed, and the whole earth followed the beast with wonder. (This describes Jesus)
13:11 Then I saw another beast which rose out of the earth; it had two horns like a lamb (has to be Jesus as required to keep even standard to place him as lamb) and it spoke like "a dragon" a Dagon-Death Cult Worshiper (Horns=Powers, so this is the DUALITY of the formed Church by it's religious and political authority)
13:12 Paul(Apollonias)/peter/or the church makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast (Jesus), whose mortal wound was healed.
13:13 It works great signs, even making fire come down from heaven to earth in the sight of men; (note to this day the church goes into the holy Sepulchre during Easter orocession and lights a candle with a bic lighter but comes out saying Jesus sent the flame to light it down from heaven.)=fullfilled.

13:14 and by the signs which it is allowed to work in the presence of the beast, it deceives those who dwell on earth, bidding them to make an image for the beast.
*Hello how many images of Mithra on the cross or Baby Horus statues do you need to realize it's been fulfilled by the many Jesus idols on the cross (mark of death=beast)?

13:15 and it was allowed to give breath to the image of the beast so that the image of the beast should even speak (Apparitions? Or a clue that they made the beast a living character even claiming "the word" was from him/ even though the word was borrowed by both Hebrew scripture and Babylonian Cultism, which makes the Books the Knowledge of both Good & Evil worshiping Life/Death in a twisted bizzarre form.

and to cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be slain. (those who weren't Christians were slain-Crusades, Inquisition, Poland Massacre etc.)

Revelation 13:17 and that no man should be able to buy or to sell (Today it's called boycott, back then people were ostracized from barter or being part in their community & I already discussed the coins they forced people to use.

Also figuring into this prophecy is: The Synod of Ofen (1279) forbade Christians from selling or renting real estate to Jews. In 1939 a Nazi decree mandated the sale of Jewish real estate. The people who carry the number of Baal Jesus'=666 name in this incident are called 'Catholics'=666 in ascll numerology used to secret numbers from names in the Bible. Also
'AsVatican' (the Vatican)=666, therefore the people did carry the number of his name and restricted buying and selling over his mere name and image.


You are in error

Babylon the great = all worldwide false religions. 99% of them are false.
Jesus is Gods appointed king, he is coming soon with Gods kingdom to the earth at Har-mageddon.
Yes satan is ruling this system of things, 99% are mislead by him. Including 99% of all religions claiming to be Christian-- Mark 3:24-26--a house divided( 33,000 trinity based religions) will not stand--that narrows the choice greatly.

In the numbers of men 7 = complete--6 falls short of complete=incomplete. There are 3 things on this earth sitting in the power positions
1) govts-6
2) false religions-6
3) the commercial system-6

each fall short in comparison to what Gods kingdom promises and will do without a doubt. The other 3 promise a better way of life now but do not do, and cannot do. they are all corrupt.All seek $$$$$, all 3 lose those power positions by the will of Gods kingdom--they do not want that to occur = antichrist.
 
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Jesus is the mask for those mystery religions.
They did this to all cultures you really need to study history. They needed a Jewish figure to draw Jews to their authority under the guise of their God just as they did with The Veiins godess Juno.
Do a net search on the Marduk tablets (Baal passion play)
What artifacts exist and stuff archelogists find that are elusive to you makes everything you think you know based on everything you hide from knowing.
laziness is not your friend.
 
The numerology of the book of Daniel is interesting. The Millerites who were led by a man named William Miller believed that the second coming of Christ would occur around 1843-1844. He arrived at this date based on the following beliefs:

1. When counting time in prophesy you base it on a 12 month year with 30 days per month. You first change the prophesy to days and then covert it to years.
"PROPHETIC TIME -- A DAY FOR A YEAR
Gabriel set the length of the rule of that persecuting Roman Church at 3 1/2 prophetic years (Dan 7:25 also 12:7) or 1260 days, but actually meaning or covering 1260 years of time; and to John it was given as 42 months (Rev. 13:5); as 1260 days (Rev. 12:6); also given as "a time and times, and half a time" (12:14); all referring to the same period 1260 day-years. (Rev. 13:1-8)

We now approach one of the keys of prophecy. Prophecies are so written that the wicked cannot understand them, but the prophetic language is made plain to those who seek and pray over it.

"Ask and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." (Matt. 7:7)

In Ezekiel 4:6 and in Numbers 14:34 we are told by the Lord: "I have appointed thee each day for a year." And so it runs in prophecy, and it has been proved many times, especially in the Books of Daniel and Revelation, that it takes a year of history to fulfill one day of prophecy. This key is acknowledged the world over by students of theology and Biblical commentators. Some of the visions given to Daniel and John are given in days, some in weeks, months, and some are referred to as "time," meaning a year; times, a double year; and half time, a half year; but they must be reduced to days and then called years. This key was known and used by many able ancient and modern scholars; among them stood Augustine, Bede, Ambrosius, Tichonius, Andreas, Primasius, Berengaud and Elliott in his "Horae Apocalypticae," vol. III, p. 241. Lev. 25:8.

The Hon. Robert Shaw, M.A., has handed down a condensed statement covering the origin of prophetic time. I quote him: "Hebrew measures of Time." "They (the Jews) had a sacred year of 364 days, or 52 weeks; and a civil year of 365 days, or 366 every fourth year. They had also a symbolic year of 360 days, consisting of 12 months of 30 days each: In those symbolic reckonings of time they usually put a day for a year." (He cites Numbers 14:34) He also adds, "They also reckoned in weeks of years and in years of years" ("Historical Origins and Historical Critiques," Robert Shaw, M. A., 1892 Ed. Revised, chap. "Prophecies of Daniel," p.97).

From "Ecclesiastical History," by John Marsh, we have the following: "John gives its duration 'forty and two months,' and 'a thousand two hundred and threescore days.' All these are the same period, 1260 years. For a time signifies a year. A time and times and the dividing of time, are three years and a half; which, according to the ancient Jewish year of 12 months, of 30 days each, is equal to 42 months, or 1260 days" (p. 242). Additional proof will be advanced as we proceed."
-- "The Time of the End" by Francis M. Darter p. 20-22
2. Daniel had a double vision, the first part of the double vision is found in Daniel chapter 8. Verse 13 and 14 of Daniel 8 says:
Daniel 8:13-14
13. Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?
14. And he said unto me, Unto Two Thousand and Three Hundred Days.; Then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
The second part of the double vision is found in Daniel Chapter 9. Verses 24 - 27 of Daniel 9 says:
Daniel 9:24-27
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Based on the above two items, Miller calculated that the second coming of Christ would occur in 1843-1844. Verse 25 of the Daniel 9 tells us the duration of the 70 week prophecy. He tells us that from the command to restore and build Jerusalem unto Messiah the Prince. The command to restore and build Jerusalem was given by Artaxerxes Longimanus in 457 BC. 70 weeks when changed to days is 490 days. Then if we change it to years we have a 490 year prophecy. The 70 weeks are then divided into three periods, a seven week period or 49 years, a threescore and two weeks period or 62 years, and a one week period or 7 year period. Just seven weeks or 49 years after the command to restore and build Jerusalem, this command was fulfilled and Jerusalem and its wall were rebuilt in 408 BC. Then three score and two weeks or 62 weeks later we find ourselves at the time Jesus began his ministry. Sometime after that time would all the things mentioned in verse 26 occur. Verse 27 mentions a fews things of the last seven years of Jesus' life. John the Baptist at age 30 should have fulfilled the duty of high Priest in offering up sacrifices in the temple in the place of his aged father, but instead he abandoned the sacrifices of the temple and began to teach repentance and baptism near the river Jordan. Thus causing the sacrifice and oblation to cease. John was 6 months older than Jesus. Thus John would have turned thirty 3 1/2 years before the death of Jesus. Thus he caused the sacrifice and oblation to cease in the midst of the last week or 7 years of Jesus' life.

Miller placed the beginning of the vision of the cleansing of the sanctuary at the same time as the vision of the cross, or 457 BC. Thus 2300 years later takes us to 1843-1844. He believed that this would be the time of the second coming. But he was wrong. But there is evidence that a certain Temple or sanctuary was built during that time frame. It was the LDS Temple in Nauvoo, Illinois. This temple was the first temple built by the LDS which contained all the saving ordinances of the temples. Since that time temples with all the saving ordinances have been erected.

(To be continued)





 
ummmm they are still waiting on his first appearance since Jesus as a singular historical figure never existed.
Which of the failed liberators or sentenced sorcerers are you expecting to show up and tell us precisely how this will he done for surely they knew and told you the process that you dare not just spew words, but actually define them fully.
 
ummmm they are still waiting on his first appearance since Jesus as a singular historical figure never existed.
Which of the failed liberators or sentenced sorcerers are you expecting to show up and tell us precisely how this will he done for surely they knew and told you the process that you dare not just spew words, but actually define them fully.
The jesus story is big with the lower IQ and thats why we have goyim
 
I believe that's David Ridges, no I have not.
Anyone claiming to be able to make sense of the OT and yet be Christian in faith is not able to teach you the OT.
The OT warns about everything that is wrong with the NT stories, that's why it makes no sense to claim you can read the OT yet disobey it so. I bet he doesn't even read the OT through the Tanakh. *L*
Learning the OT from a Roman influenced precept is like
learning to fly a plane through a boating instructor.
 
The jesus story is big with the lower IQ and thats why we have goyim

I'm not gonna let IQ be an excuse, there's more factors at play that involve human ego, social science, group behavior, and psychology.
Sure they prey on less educated to spread their disease or those not having access to broad spectrum of info or intellect, but it's mainly based on human behavior.
Notice they themselves constantly prove they have the reasoning skills when they inadvertantly bust on their own faith & logic, but pride refuses to keep that standard they set and self reflect back on their same beliefs.

Add on edit: Forgot to say there are IQ factors that are most definitely evident as deficient though.
1)sequences which are used in IQ and SAT tests....to comprehend Jesus coming first means he can't claim the next messiah is The Lucifer character who comes first. He can't be claimed Shiloh.
Not comprehending where in the time line starts the "world to come."
2)tenses: not understanding singular/ plural,
past /present /future tense, not understanding third person tenses.
 
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Is Pope Francis stoned all the time? Because it's either that or he found the Nazi Pope's stash of papal wine.
 
The first reign of the 4th beast of Daniels prophecies and the 1st beast of Revelation 13 is believed by many to have started in 538 BC and was to last 1260 years. 538 is the year that the 3 little horns were destroyed, ie the Ostrogoths, Heruli, and Vandals. From that time forth it is believed that the Roman Papacy reigned until Napoleon took away the civil power of the Pope in 1798.

Once its civil power was lost, it took awhile before Rome was granted statehood again in 1929 and has been building up its political clout ever since. Today's Pope is trying to dictate foreign policy. The prophecy of the return of the beast is also found in Revelation 13.

Revelation 13:11-18
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Many consider the deadly wound of the first beast to be the loss of civil power. Today, the Pope once again has civil power through being an independent country called Vatican City. They also have a seat in the United Nations. The wound by the sword is the same inflicted by Napoleon. The second beast which causes all to worship the first beast before him is not yet revealed. Many believe it to be England and the United states. This is where two other city states reside that are independent like Vatican City, ie Washington DC and London.

Three Corporations run the world: City of London, Washington DC and Vatican City

The U.S. Federal Government along with England and Vatican City's government seem to all be united to bring in a one World Order (Government). Once in power, it is feared that this force will bring about the fulfillment of Rev 13 in that they require the mark of the beast to be received by all and that no man might buy or cell save he who has the mark of the beast. World slavery and tyranny is projected to rule until Christ comes and destroys the beast.
 
Christians (Pastors) use those verses to claim Rome will lift a false prophet who will die and reaapear, but this already occured because before Constantine the men used for the icon Jesus were all failed liberators who's apostles left or died with him, and they taught that another to come later would be son of man (third person tense) *see sources below *, and the character had one who was his God, not that he was God after Constantine made him one to mask Baal. So Rome already did what the church used Rev 13 to predict would happen or Was a plot forming in his day (insight from how they did this to previous cultures)..
 
"and there will be many that will come in my name deceiving even the elect , claiming I am (Jesus speaking) the Christ."
Mathew 24:5
 
Don't know what happened to my source info (3 posts above) so here it is:
read proper tenses son of man is another person (third person tense) they mentioned that specifically that it was another. Son of man is the head of host (father figure) Michael in the time to come. Son of man is secreted in the last name as I described previously.
sources:
The created figure Jesus spoke and taught of son of man to come third person tense
(LUKE 6:5, 9:26 , 9:55-56, 12:10 , 17:30 , 18:8, 22:69, John 3:13, Matthew 25:11-13, Mark 14:62
and Mathew20:28) including claiming he was emulating him (Rev 1:13)
and that son of man would come as another being in his own new name and that even he (probably Theudas) would see son of man with the others, truly wording that he's the spectator not the head of host that 2 major religions say is Michael and if you can't grasp that then why if the name is in the temple( Mikdash) does that name say building refering to Mike?
Why is the holy city to carry the name relate to the Evening star (Michael) and not morning star (Jesus)?
Why does Shalem(evening star Michael) in the Canaanite city's original transliteration reveal the term "son of man" and the Head of Kohanim's last name and where they originate from?
 
Under this scenario, who are the ten horns and who are the 3 horns that were subdued?

The fourth beast Daniel mentions, represents the Greeks. The ten horns on the beast represent ten Seleucid kings that ruled between Seleucus I and Antiochus IV. Antiochus IV (birth name Mithradates) was the fourth in line to the throne after the reign of Antiochus III. The first in line was Mithradates older brother (Seleucus IV), then Seleucus' sons, Demetrius (who was in captivity) and Antiochus. Mithradates took over the throne after Seleucus IV was assassinated. Later he murdered Seleucus IV's youngest son, Antiochus. When he became king, Mithradates took the name Antiochus IV.

clueless as usual.
 
The prophecies and dreams of Daniel the Prophet are very fascinating regarding this topic. After Israel was carried away captive into Babylon, The King of the Babylonians, Nebuchadnezzar, took of the Hebrews who had wisdom, understanding and knowledge to be advisors in his court. Among them was Daniel.


Nebuchadnezzar had a dream and would not tell anyone the dream but sought for his advisors to tell of the dream he had and then give the interpretation. Many asked the king to first tell them the dream and then they would tell him the interpretation. The King, knowing they could give him any interpretation refused to tell them the dream but required them to tell him what he dreamed about first and then give the interpretation thereof. The King became distraught when they would not give him the dream and interpretation and decided to put to death those who were his advisors. Daniel asked for some time to find out the dream and interpretation. He then prayed and the Lord revealed both the dream and the interpretation to the King's dream. This is the account according to scripture:


Daniel 2:31-49

31 Thou, O king, sawest, and behold a great image. This great image, whose brightness was excellent, stood before thee; and the form thereof was terrible.

32 This image’s head was of fine gold, his breast and his arms of silver, his belly and his thighs of brass,

33 His legs of iron, his feet part of iron and part of clay.

34 Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces.

35 Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.

36 This is the dream; and we will tell the interpretation thereof before the king.

37 Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory.

38 And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold.

39 And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee, and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.

40 And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.

41 And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters’ clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.

42 And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.

43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

45 Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.

46 Then the king Nebuchadnezzar fell upon his face, and worshipped Daniel, and commanded that they should offer an oblation and sweet odours unto him.

47 The king answered unto Daniel, and said, Of a truth it is, that your God is a God of gods, and a Lord of kings, and a revealer of secrets, seeing thou couldest reveal this secret.

48 Then the king made Daniel a great man, and gave him many great gifts, and made him ruler over the whole province of Babylon, and chief of the governors over all the wise men of Babylon.

49 Then Daniel requested of the king, and he set Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, over the affairs of the province of Babylon: but Daniel sat in the gate of the king.



Nebuchadnezzar dreamed of an image that was divided into four sections. The head of Gold, the arms and breasts of silver, the belly and thighs of brass, and the legs and feet of iron whose toes were part iron and part miry clay. Each of these sections are interpreted as kingdoms and the head of Gold is interpreted as Nebuchadnezzars kingdom or the Babylonian kingdom. The other kingdoms are successive kingdoms which come after Nebuchadnezzar's kingdom. Daniel beheld another kingdom ( a stone) that was cut out of the mountain without hands. This kingdom eventually smote the feet of the image and broke it into pieces. The three kingdoms that succeeded Nebuchadnezzar's kingdom were the Medo-Persian Empire, the Greco-Macedonian Empire, and then the Roman-Holy Roman Empire.


This dream by Nechadnezzar and Daniel will tie into future dreams and visions of Daniel.



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My god, this is so ignorant. There was no papacy when Nero was emperor.
 
My god, this is so ignorant. There was no papacy when Nero was emperor.
Who even mentioned the Papacy in connection with Nero? Do you always take the name of God in vain? I think you fail to perceive where the real ignorance is coming from.
 
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