'Why Study Philosophy'

[Skull Pilot]

All these self taught people must be stupid according to Ukunthair

Autodidactic Profiles - AUTODIDACTIC PRESS - lifelong learning advocate

 

[Unkotare]

If I read the same books some prof tells you to read I will learn the same stuff you do for free.

If I read more books than your prof tells you to read I will learn more than you.

Wrong and wrong. You're kind of an idiot, aren't you?

Gee how did people learn before there were colleges and egotistical professors?

I wonder.

You wonder because you don't know. You don't know because you are stupid. Feeling self-satisfied doesn't make you any less of an idiot. Sorry to break the news to you.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Wrong and wrong. You're kind of an idiot, aren't you?

Gee how did people learn before there were colleges and egotistical professors?

I wonder.

You wonder because you don't know. You don't know because you are stupid. Feeling self-satisfied doesn't make you any less of an idiot. Sorry to break the news to you.

Only idiots believe that education cannot take place outside of a classroom.

 

[Dante]

There is no need at all to go to college to study liberal arts.

You can do it on your own for free. The funny thing is that the public is convinced that they have to spend tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars to read a book.

yeah, and end up like many of the self deluded nitwits who post here.

self education is tough, tougher than anyone can imagine, if one wants to get it right. Lots of self educated fools out there who join the ranks of the poorly educated who hold degrees,

without really a serious critical thinking skill set, self education can make somebody more of a fool than when they started out

 

[Unkotare]

All these self taught people must be stupid according to Ukunthair

Autodidactic Profiles - AUTODIDACTIC PRESS - lifelong learning advocate

Every lazy fool like you wants to believe he is Ramanujan. Guess what? You're not.

 

[Unkotare]

Gee how did people learn before there were colleges and egotistical professors?

I wonder.

You wonder because you don't know. You don't know because you are stupid. Feeling self-satisfied doesn't make you any less of an idiot. Sorry to break the news to you.

Only idiots believe that education cannot take place outside of a classroom.

Thanks for demonstrating once again that you don't understand the concept.

 

[Dante]

I often read that students should study some field of knowledge that leads to productive work. But consider that my eventual working world did not even exist when I started college. My degree was eventually in Liberal Arts as I was never sure what I wanted to be when I grew up. When you examine the degrees of many of the national leaders in technology or business, their degree is often not related to their work. How is that, some even dropped out of school. So then maybe we need to ask what makes a person a good citizen and a productive member of society. Could it be a liberal education steeped in philosophy?

"Is a liberal arts education for everyone? Probably not. Some people would rather do just about anything than major in philosophy, and that is fine. But a liberal arts education forms students to be a thoughtful and concerned citizens, and that is the subtext here. Educated, concerned citizens aren’t going to sit back and let the economic elite run the show. McCrory can critique the educated elite all that he wants, but when you pal around with the likes of Art Pope you really have no business accusing anyone else of elitism.

McCrory himself studied political science and education. Bennett, who was interviewing him, has a PhD in – you guessed it – philosophy. The underlying assumption appears to be that if you’re part of the upper class, you can enjoy the luxury of a liberal arts education. If you’re lower or middle class, the public institutions that are supposed to be part of the mythical “American dream,” that level playing field, should only offer courses in skilled trades. Wealthy young people will get a liberal arts education. Poor and middle class young people will choose a trade."

Femmonite: Notes from an Employed Philosopher

Bill Bennett? I joined his site a few times (pay $$$) in order to download things. He was part of the John Silber team from Texas who took over Boston University in the 1960s.

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Under the Dome
McCrory wants to revamp higher ed funding -- takes aim at UNC-Chapel Hill
Submitted by John_Frank on 2013-01-29 09:27
Tags: Under the Dome | Bill Bennett | Education | Gov. Pat McCrory | governor | higher education | Pat McCrory | Republican

UPDATED: Gov. Pat McCrory said he would propose legislation to overhaul the way higher education is funded in North Carolina, putting the emphasis on job creation not liberal arts and taking specific aim at the state's flagship university.

"I think some of the educational elite have taken over our education where we are offering courses that have no chance of getting people jobs," McCrory told conservative talk show host Bill Bennett, the former education secretary for President Ronald Reagan, during an interview Tuesday morning. (Listen to the audio here.

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The Republican governor said he instructed his staff Monday to draft legislation that would change how much state money universities and community colleges receive "not based on how many butts in seats but how many of those butts can get jobs."

"Right now we pay based on how many students you have, not how many jobs you are getting people into," he said.

At the same time, McCrory seemed to contradict himself, saying he supported a liberal arts curriculum. "I do believe in liberal arts education," the Catawba College graduate said. "I got one."

Moments later, the radio host said, "How many PhDs in philosophy do I need to subsidize? ...That's my field."

"You and I agree," McCrory added.

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Also in the interview, McCrory used the academic scandal at UNC-CH involving athletes to drive the point. "It's even hit our athletic departments. Sad to say, at Carolina, our great basketball program, they took Swahili on a night study course where they didn't have to do any work and got B-pluses," McCrory added. "What are we teaching these courses for if they are not going to help get a job."

UPDATE: McCrory's comments drew immediate fire from faculty across the UNC system, who stressed that higher education is about much more than job training.

A sampling of the reaction:

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[Dante]

You wonder because you don't know. You don't know because you are stupid. Feeling self-satisfied doesn't make you any less of an idiot. Sorry to break the news to you.

Only idiots believe that education cannot take place outside of a classroom.

Thanks for demonstrating once again that you don't understand the concept.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry on this one.

 

[Skull Pilot]

All these self taught people must be stupid according to Ukunthair

Autodidactic Profiles - AUTODIDACTIC PRESS - lifelong learning advocate

Every lazy fool like you wants to believe he is Ramanujan. Guess what? You're not.

And every idiot with a Bullshit degree in psych thinks they're fucking Carl Yung.

Anyone with an ounce of intelligence can learn everything in any liberal arts curriculum without going to college to do it.

But it's the ounce of intelligence that you are missing.

 

[Dante]

All these self taught people must be stupid according to Ukunthair

Autodidactic Profiles - AUTODIDACTIC PRESS - lifelong learning advocate

Every lazy fool like you wants to believe he is Ramanujan. Guess what? You're not.

And every idiot with a Bullshit degree in psych thinks they're fucking Carl Yung.

Anyone with an ounce of intelligence can learn everything in any liberal arts curriculum without going to college to do it.

But it's the ounce of intelligence that you are missing.

Too bad you consistently ruin your own good points made in a post.

You are right on Carl Yung[sic], but then you go off the rails with your poor understanding of learning entails. Many people who have degrees have learned shit, that is true. Not everyone who takes up liberal arts learns everything, but I've met more phony's who have paid people to take tests in courses that were specialized, not lib arts.

Not everyone can learn on their own. Even fewer people learn well on their own.

 

[Unkotare]

Anyone with an ounce of intelligence can learn everything in any liberal arts curriculum without going to college to do it.
.

You continue to prove you don't know what the hell you are talking about. You poor, ignorant fool.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Every lazy fool like you wants to believe he is Ramanujan. Guess what? You're not.

And every idiot with a Bullshit degree in psych thinks they're fucking Carl Yung.

Anyone with an ounce of intelligence can learn everything in any liberal arts curriculum without going to college to do it.

But it's the ounce of intelligence that you are missing.

Too bad you consistently ruin your own good points made in a post.

You are right on Carl Yung[sic], but then you go off the rails with your poor understanding of learning entails. Many people who have degrees have learned shit, that is true. Not everyone who takes up liberal arts learns everything, but I've met more phony's who have paid people to take tests in courses that were specialized, not lib arts.

Not everyone can learn on their own. Even fewer people learn well on their own.

That's just an excuse.

That attitude is drilled into every kid's head from day one and it's pure bullshit.

The thing you all leave out is desire. A person of average intelligence can teach himself anything if he has the desire to do so.

And liberal arts curriculum is the easiest place to start.

The problem is the will not the ability.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Anyone with an ounce of intelligence can learn everything in any liberal arts curriculum without going to college to do it.
.

You continue to prove you don't know what the hell you are talking about. You poor, ignorant fool.

You have not proven that a person cannot master a liberal arts curriculum without going to college.

So prove it.

 

[Unkotare]

A person of average intelligence can teach himself anything if he has the desire to do so.

If you had even half of an average intelligence you'd realize that is wrong.

 

[Unkotare]

Anyone with an ounce of intelligence can learn everything in any liberal arts curriculum without going to college to do it.
.

You continue to prove you don't know what the hell you are talking about. You poor, ignorant fool.

You have not proven that a person cannot master a liberal arts curriculum without going to college.

So prove it.

Do you think that "a liberal arts education" is just a matter of reading a bunch of stuff?

 

[Skull Pilot]

You continue to prove you don't know what the hell you are talking about. You poor, ignorant fool.

You have not proven that a person cannot master a liberal arts curriculum without going to college.

So prove it.

Do you think that "a liberal arts education" is just a matter of reading a bunch of stuff?

It's your position that one cannot master the material in a liberal arts curriculum without attending college.

Prove your point then we can proceed. After all with that expensive education that you couldn't get anywhere but a college you should be able to right?

 

[Dante]

it's decided: cry not laugh

 

[Dante]

And every idiot with a Bullshit degree in psych thinks they're fucking Carl Yung.

Anyone with an ounce of intelligence can learn everything in any liberal arts curriculum without going to college to do it.

But it's the ounce of intelligence that you are missing.

Too bad you consistently ruin your own good points made in a post.

You are right on Carl Yung[sic], but then you go off the rails with your poor understanding of learning entails. Many people who have degrees have learned shit, that is true. Not everyone who takes up liberal arts learns everything, but I've met more phony's who have paid people to take tests in courses that were specialized, not lib arts.

Not everyone can learn on their own. Even fewer people learn well on their own.

That's just an excuse.

That attitude is drilled into every kid's head from day one and it's pure bullshit.

The thing you all leave out is desire. A person of average intelligence can teach himself anything if he has the desire to do so.

And liberal arts curriculum is the easiest place to start.

The problem is the will not the ability.

Ahh, now you move the goal post a little bit to the left.

 

[Unkotare]

You have not proven that a person cannot master a liberal arts curriculum without going to college.

So prove it.

Do you think that "a liberal arts education" is just a matter of reading a bunch of stuff?

It's your position that one cannot master the material in a liberal arts curriculum without attending college.

Prove your point then we can proceed. After all with that expensive education that you couldn't get anywhere but a college you should be able to right?

I asked you a question. That you are unwilling to answer is just one more piece of evidence that you do not understand what learning really is. You are proving the point, but you are too dim-witted to realize it. No surprise there.

 

[uscitizen]

There is no need at all to go to college to study liberal arts.

You can do it on your own for free. The funny thing is that the public is convinced that they have to spend tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars to read a book.

Tens of millions do it daily.
Just watch Fox or listen to talk radio.