Why Religion Must Be Banished....

[hadit]

I get it. You're mad because God didn't miraculously spare your mother. That still doesn't negate the miracles other people have seen.

Right Someone saw the Virgin Mary in a grilled cheese sandwich once. It's a MIRACLE!!!!

How dare anyone doubt the Holy Grilled Cheese Sandwich!!!!

You can find uncounted instances where somebody claimed a miracle happened that didn't. Big deal, so can I. That doesn't negate the miracles that are seen.

God doesn't play 'do a trick'. You're in a great position there, totally insulated from needing to acknowledge anything. All you have to do is simply deny anything you don't want to admit.


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[Vastator]

As long as we banish those that worship at the altar of big government, I'm cool with that.

The scary thing is you think that there are people who actually "Worship" big government.

Nobody actually does that.

Some people think Government is better at some things than the private sector. That's all.

My point is it takes the irrationality of religious fervor to think that.

I'm not the only one that understands that it doesn't matter if you call it worship, that's exactly what you're doing.

I hope you don't mind if I add to your reading list for the uninformed.


As one eventually becomes weary of having the dull, the uneducated, the ignorant, offer what they consider rebuff to intelligent and informed posts, and in the interests of better debate milieu.....I strongly suggest that no Leftists.....e.g., Democrat, Liberal, Socialist, Communist, Nazi, Progressive, or Fascist.....


....nor any combination or permutation of same, embarrass themselves by offering any post until such time that they complete a study of these three works:


1. "Slouching Towards Gomorrah: Modern Liberalism and American Decline,"
by Robert H. Bork




2. "Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Change,"
by Jonah Goldberg




3. "American Betrayal: The Secret Assault on Our Nation's Character,"
by Diana West



They provide the context for the world in which we live.

And, please, Leftists..... do study the vast and scholarly documentation provided in each tome.





Without having digested the three above, and carefully decided whether they are correct or not, your posts reek of stupidity and a lack of understanding.

I mean that in only the kindest way.









I fully understand the difficulties that this course (pun intended) of action entails....

...as elucidated by the great mind herself...

"Liberals don’t read books- they don’t read anything. That’s why they’re liberals. They watch TV, absorb the propaganda, and vote on the basis of urges."

Coulter







But!!!

Having completed the above assignment, you will find that your experience.....and mine....here on the board will be greatly enhanced.

Begin immediately!!!

Forthwith!!!!!!





4. Extra Credit:

Well that's unfortunate for you... You see... Here on a public message board; no other poster is obligated to concede to your demands, or desires prior to voicing their own opinion.

 

[Moonglow]

So I see that Polispices sources made the logical fallacy of claiming only liberals are in the left specter of the political parties and ideology...A most grievous fallacy of comparison which tries to make an argument with a basis of negative assumptions....What rhetoric and propaganda for the smallest of minds..Negating the fact that liberalism is part of both parties in power...

 

[G.T.]

all those theocracies are doing awesome, i heard

 

[hadit]

I wonder what would happen if we applied the consumer fraud laws to religion. Wouldn't that be interesting.

It sure would. It would eliminate those who use religion for personal gain, leaving the truth. And, of course, totally piss off those who just want to get rid of anything they don't want to deal with, because what's left would be unassailable. That's usually when imprisonment and executions start.


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[JoeB131]

You can find uncounted instances where somebody claimed a miracle happened that didn't. Big deal, so can I. That doesn't negate the miracles that are seen.

God doesn't play 'do a trick'. You're in a great position there, totally insulated from needing to acknowledge anything. All you have to do is simply deny anything you don't want to admit.

Well, that's pretty awesome, isn't it? He's not actually required to do anything, but gosh darn it, we will give him credit for everything from your Cancer going into remission to the Virgin Mary appearing on a grilled cheese sandwich. And he needs Money. He always needs money!

What an absolutely low standard for an omnipotent being.

You see, the thing here is that it really isn't my job to prove your extraordinary claims of a magic man in the sky who performs "tricks". You guys are the ones making extraordinary claims, using as "evidence" a book with Zombies, Talking Snakes and Giants. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Now, would it be nice if there was a magic man in the sky who cares about us and wants us to be good? Um, yeah, that would be nice. It would be nice to see all our loved ones in the afterlife.

What you guys are short on is proof that any of that is you know, true.

 

[BULLDOG]

So I see that Polispices sources made the logical fallacy of claiming only liberals are in the left specter of the political parties and ideology...A most grievous fallacy of comparison which tries to make an argument with a basis of negative assumptions....What rhetoric and propaganda for the smallest of minds..Negating the fact that liberalism is part of both parties in power...

I agree with everything you said, but fewer words are always better.

PolySpice is nuts.

See? Exact same meaning fewer words.

 

[PoliticalChic]

...from the public arena and the public's consciousness: because it is the only way Leftism can survive.



1. The Founders were all deeply religious, steeped in Judeo-Christian tradition and the Bible. This was the warning:

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other" John Adams to Massachusetts Militia, 11 October 1798




2. Compare that to the worldview of the elites, and the operators of government school:

"Just because any religious idea, any idea of any god at all, any flirtation even with a god, is the most inexpressible foulness, particularly tolerantly (and often even favourably) accepted by the democratic bourgeoisie—for that very reason it is the most dangerous foulness, the most shameful “infection.” A million physical sins, dirty tricks, acts of violence and infections are much more easily discovered by the crowd, and therefore are much less dangerous, than the nubile, spiritual idea of god, dressed up in the most attractive “ideological” costumes."
Letter from Lenin to Maxim Gorky, Written on November 13 or 14, 1913



3. Those who have accepted Liberalism, postmodernism, Progressivism, mock the idea of the Judeo-Christian God, and compare same to Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy.
And, they must.
Because if they accept the traditional view of God....then they would be forced to accept the corollary, the view that Evil, or Satan, or Lucifer, exist as well.....and the evidence would prove that Leftism is animated by that evil.




4. Compare Ronald Reagan's response to the what he named 'the evil empire' to Obama, who embraced and supported evil early on in his political career.

And, this is no surprise, as Barack Obama's mentor was Saul Alinsky, proud of his affiliation with the personification of evil:

"Alinsky dedicated his book to none other than the fallen angel Lucifer, yes that Lucifer, whom he describes as "the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment (that would be God) and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom." Webutante: The Late Saul Alinsky, Obama's Radical Community Organizer Inspirer-in-Chief




If the true animator of Leftism was revealed....the American people would never support any of its iterations:
Liberalism, Progressivism, Nazism, Communism, Socialism or Fascism.
Never.


So....their mission is to banish God and religion.

How did you work fascism into that assertion?

Pay attention.
There is not the slightest difference in the outcome for society as dictated by these six:
Liberalism, Progressivism, Nazism, Communism, Socialism or Fascism.

Pay attention... You haven't provided proof of your assertion. Also monarchy, and democracy aren't on your list. Both of which have examples of similar, if not same; end results as select examples of the governing types you do mention. There is great disparity within your incomplete assertion. Pay attention.

OK...OK....stop begging.

I'll provide the lacunae of which government school deprived you.


Let's begin with definitions.
Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life

9. Which restricts free speech and thought?

10. Which can be summed up in Hegel's “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”



And, of course, they all are do...they are all consubstantial.

They are all the same in their ultimate plan for society: a totalitarian regime with the peons marching lock-step.



Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism






How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?
Right....none of 'em.
Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism.

Every form of governance that has ever existed, has engaged in the "grievances" you have listed. Every single one

Which ones look like this?

61,911,000 Murdered: The Soviet Gulag State
35,236,000 Murdered: The Communist Chinese Ant Hill
20,946,000 Murdered: The Nazi Genocide State
10,214,000 Murdered: The Depraved Nationalist Regime under Chiang Kai-shek
DEATH BY GOVERNMENT: GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER


Liberalism, Progressivism, Nazism, Communism, Socialism or Fascism.

 

[PoliticalChic]

As long as we banish those that worship at the altar of big government, I'm cool with that.

The scary thing is you think that there are people who actually "Worship" big government.

Nobody actually does that.

Some people think Government is better at some things than the private sector. That's all.

My point is it takes the irrationality of religious fervor to think that.

I'm not the only one that understands that it doesn't matter if you call it worship, that's exactly what you're doing.

I hope you don't mind if I add to your reading list for the uninformed.


As one eventually becomes weary of having the dull, the uneducated, the ignorant, offer what they consider rebuff to intelligent and informed posts, and in the interests of better debate milieu.....I strongly suggest that no Leftists.....e.g., Democrat, Liberal, Socialist, Communist, Nazi, Progressive, or Fascist.....


....nor any combination or permutation of same, embarrass themselves by offering any post until such time that they complete a study of these three works:


1. "Slouching Towards Gomorrah: Modern Liberalism and American Decline,"
by Robert H. Bork




2. "Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Change,"
by Jonah Goldberg




3. "American Betrayal: The Secret Assault on Our Nation's Character,"
by Diana West



They provide the context for the world in which we live.

And, please, Leftists..... do study the vast and scholarly documentation provided in each tome.





Without having digested the three above, and carefully decided whether they are correct or not, your posts reek of stupidity and a lack of understanding.

I mean that in only the kindest way.









I fully understand the difficulties that this course (pun intended) of action entails....

...as elucidated by the great mind herself...

"Liberals don’t read books- they don’t read anything. That’s why they’re liberals. They watch TV, absorb the propaganda, and vote on the basis of urges."

Coulter







But!!!

Having completed the above assignment, you will find that your experience.....and mine....here on the board will be greatly enhanced.

Begin immediately!!!

Forthwith!!!!!!





4. Extra Credit:

Well that's unfortunate for you... You see... Here on a public message board; no other poster is obligated to concede to your demands, or desires prior to voicing their own opinion.

My mission is education.
As you have found, everything I post is totally accurate and correct.

But....I am a conservative, not a Liberal.....so I have no desire to force you to become educated.
You are free to remain a dunce.

 

[Moonglow]

all those theocracies are doing awesome, i heard

They do have a nasty habit of being anti-individual and oppressing any views but the churches...

 

[Moonglow]

How did you work fascism into that assertion?

Pay attention.
There is not the slightest difference in the outcome for society as dictated by these six:
Liberalism, Progressivism, Nazism, Communism, Socialism or Fascism.

Pay attention... You haven't provided proof of your assertion. Also monarchy, and democracy aren't on your list. Both of which have examples of similar, if not same; end results as select examples of the governing types you do mention. There is great disparity within your incomplete assertion. Pay attention.

OK...OK....stop begging.

I'll provide the lacunae of which government school deprived you.


Let's begin with definitions.
Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life

9. Which restricts free speech and thought?

10. Which can be summed up in Hegel's “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”



And, of course, they all are do...they are all consubstantial.

They are all the same in their ultimate plan for society: a totalitarian regime with the peons marching lock-step.



Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism






How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?
Right....none of 'em.
Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism.

Every form of governance that has ever existed, has engaged in the "grievances" you have listed. Every single one

Which ones look like this?

61,911,000 Murdered: The Soviet Gulag State
35,236,000 Murdered: The Communist Chinese Ant Hill
20,946,000 Murdered: The Nazi Genocide State
10,214,000 Murdered: The Depraved Nationalist Regime under Chiang Kai-shek
DEATH BY GOVERNMENT: GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER


Liberalism, Progressivism, Nazism, Communism, Socialism or Fascism.

Uhm, which ones were the ones practicing liberalism, besides the US ?
Your idea of education is a myopic one at best..

 

[JoeB131]

It sure would. It would eliminate those who use religion for personal gain, leaving the truth. And, of course, totally piss off those who just want to get rid of anything they don't want to deal with, because what's left would be unassailable. That's usually when imprisonment and executions start.

Except, of course, that you guys can't prove God.

You see, here would be my standard. We take the top guy from each religion, to the top of the Sears Tower, and throw him off the top of the building.

Anyone who God Catches on the way down would be declared to have a valid and legitimate religion.

Anyone who goes splat was just using religion for personal gain.

Want to take a guess how many God would catch on the way down?

 

[G.T.]

sky daddy should be king of all nations - salami and bacon

 

[Vastator]

How did you work fascism into that assertion?

Pay attention.
There is not the slightest difference in the outcome for society as dictated by these six:
Liberalism, Progressivism, Nazism, Communism, Socialism or Fascism.

Pay attention... You haven't provided proof of your assertion. Also monarchy, and democracy aren't on your list. Both of which have examples of similar, if not same; end results as select examples of the governing types you do mention. There is great disparity within your incomplete assertion. Pay attention.

OK...OK....stop begging.

I'll provide the lacunae of which government school deprived you.


Let's begin with definitions.
Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life

9. Which restricts free speech and thought?

10. Which can be summed up in Hegel's “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”



And, of course, they all are do...they are all consubstantial.

They are all the same in their ultimate plan for society: a totalitarian regime with the peons marching lock-step.



Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism






How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?
Right....none of 'em.
Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism.

Every form of governance that has ever existed, has engaged in the "grievances" you have listed. Every single one

Which ones look like this?

61,911,000 Murdered: The Soviet Gulag State
35,236,000 Murdered: The Communist Chinese Ant Hill
20,946,000 Murdered: The Nazi Genocide State
10,214,000 Murdered: The Depraved Nationalist Regime under Chiang Kai-shek
DEATH BY GOVERNMENT: GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER


Liberalism, Progressivism, Nazism, Communism, Socialism or Fascism.

You play "levels of severity" all you like. The factual nature of my post stands firm, and proven.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I have to disagree with the op.

Regressives only want to eliminate Christianity and Judaism. They are neutral to slightly positive about Buddhism and support Islam quite actively.

 

[Vastator]

As long as we banish those that worship at the altar of big government, I'm cool with that.

The scary thing is you think that there are people who actually "Worship" big government.

Nobody actually does that.

Some people think Government is better at some things than the private sector. That's all.

My point is it takes the irrationality of religious fervor to think that.

I'm not the only one that understands that it doesn't matter if you call it worship, that's exactly what you're doing.

I hope you don't mind if I add to your reading list for the uninformed.


As one eventually becomes weary of having the dull, the uneducated, the ignorant, offer what they consider rebuff to intelligent and informed posts, and in the interests of better debate milieu.....I strongly suggest that no Leftists.....e.g., Democrat, Liberal, Socialist, Communist, Nazi, Progressive, or Fascist.....


....nor any combination or permutation of same, embarrass themselves by offering any post until such time that they complete a study of these three works:


1. "Slouching Towards Gomorrah: Modern Liberalism and American Decline,"
by Robert H. Bork




2. "Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Change,"
by Jonah Goldberg




3. "American Betrayal: The Secret Assault on Our Nation's Character,"
by Diana West



They provide the context for the world in which we live.

And, please, Leftists..... do study the vast and scholarly documentation provided in each tome.





Without having digested the three above, and carefully decided whether they are correct or not, your posts reek of stupidity and a lack of understanding.

I mean that in only the kindest way.









I fully understand the difficulties that this course (pun intended) of action entails....

...as elucidated by the great mind herself...

"Liberals don’t read books- they don’t read anything. That’s why they’re liberals. They watch TV, absorb the propaganda, and vote on the basis of urges."

Coulter







But!!!

Having completed the above assignment, you will find that your experience.....and mine....here on the board will be greatly enhanced.

Begin immediately!!!

Forthwith!!!!!!





4. Extra Credit:

Well that's unfortunate for you... You see... Here on a public message board; no other poster is obligated to concede to your demands, or desires prior to voicing their own opinion.

My mission is education.
As you have found, everything I post is totally accurate and correct.

But....I am a conservative, not a Liberal.....so I have no desire to force you to become educated.
You are free to remain a dunce.

No. Not everything you have posted is factual. Your argument falls apart under scrutiny through your selective omission of facts. Half truths, and obfuscations serve the same purpose as outright lies.

 

[BULLDOG]

sky daddy should be king of all nations - salami and bacon

may you forever be touched by his noodly appendage

 

[Vastator]

sky daddy should be king of all nations - salami and bacon

may you forever be touched by his noodly appendage

"Rah-men"...

 

[G.T.]

The scary thing is you think that there are people who actually "Worship" big government.

Nobody actually does that.

Some people think Government is better at some things than the private sector. That's all.

My point is it takes the irrationality of religious fervor to think that.

I'm not the only one that understands that it doesn't matter if you call it worship, that's exactly what you're doing.

I hope you don't mind if I add to your reading list for the uninformed.


As one eventually becomes weary of having the dull, the uneducated, the ignorant, offer what they consider rebuff to intelligent and informed posts, and in the interests of better debate milieu.....I strongly suggest that no Leftists.....e.g., Democrat, Liberal, Socialist, Communist, Nazi, Progressive, or Fascist.....


....nor any combination or permutation of same, embarrass themselves by offering any post until such time that they complete a study of these three works:


1. "Slouching Towards Gomorrah: Modern Liberalism and American Decline,"
by Robert H. Bork




2. "Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Change,"
by Jonah Goldberg




3. "American Betrayal: The Secret Assault on Our Nation's Character,"
by Diana West



They provide the context for the world in which we live.

And, please, Leftists..... do study the vast and scholarly documentation provided in each tome.





Without having digested the three above, and carefully decided whether they are correct or not, your posts reek of stupidity and a lack of understanding.

I mean that in only the kindest way.









I fully understand the difficulties that this course (pun intended) of action entails....

...as elucidated by the great mind herself...

"Liberals don’t read books- they don’t read anything. That’s why they’re liberals. They watch TV, absorb the propaganda, and vote on the basis of urges."

Coulter







But!!!

Having completed the above assignment, you will find that your experience.....and mine....here on the board will be greatly enhanced.

Begin immediately!!!

Forthwith!!!!!!





4. Extra Credit:

Well that's unfortunate for you... You see... Here on a public message board; no other poster is obligated to concede to your demands, or desires prior to voicing their own opinion.

My mission is education.
As you have found, everything I post is totally accurate and correct.

But....I am a conservative, not a Liberal.....so I have no desire to force you to become educated.
You are free to remain a dunce.

No. Not everything you have posted is factual. Your argument falls apart under scrutiny through your selective omission of facts. Half truths, and obfuscations serve the same purpose as outright lies.

lol shes a waste of time to try and have a reasonable discussion with man. her threads are only good for satire. if she had the first eff of a clue how to reason, and employ logic, she'd have permanent redface.

why is the "embarrassed" emoji pink here

 

[Moonglow]

God says he is dismayed by the political lies and entanglement humans try to use him in to score points of rhetorical non-value..