Why Religion Must Be Banished....

[eflatminor]

As long as we banish those that worship at the altar of big government, I'm cool with that.

The scary thing is you think that there are people who actually "Worship" big government.

Nobody actually does that.

Some people think Government is better at some things than the private sector. That's all.

My point is it takes the irrationality of religious fervor to think that.

I'm not the only one that understands that it doesn't matter if you call it worship, that's exactly what you're doing.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Jefferson's Letter to the Danbury Baptists
The Final Letter, as Sent
To messers. Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut.

Gentlemen


The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, & in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more pleasing.


Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.


I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves & your religious association, assurances of my high respect & esteem.


Th Jefferson
Jan. 1. 1802.

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Jefferson's Letter to the Danbury Baptists (June 1998) - Library of Congress Information Bulletin

lol.... you just bit the big one on this thread, superchicky.................

Jefferson comforted the Baptists of Danbury, who feared that the federal government would impose a state religion.


Now....take notes, you dunce, so you don't embarrass yourself again:

"To provide some context, “the Baptists who supported Jefferson were outsiders — a beleaguered religious and political minority in region where a Congregationalist-Federalist axis dominated political life.” They were seeking reassurances of a religion friendly disposition from their new president who was horribly vilified during the election as an “infidel and atheist.” This rumor had become so widespread during the presidential campaign, New England housewives were known to have buried their family Bibles in the backyards so fearful that the new Administration would confiscate their Holy Scriptures.

So this famous letter having to do with the ‘wall of separation between church and state’ was a political statement giving his reassurances to the Baptists that he was a friend to religion, and a response to the vilification he received from the Federalist Congregationalist establishment in Connecticut. This was not a definitive manifesto on the relationship between government and religion.


President Jefferson supported the use of federal funds to be used to build churches and to help Christian missionary work among the Indians."
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a blog? lol.... i am addressing your OP, you silly little thing. no one is banishing your special brand of christianity. & the second i see 'saul alinsky' dragged into it.... blah blah fucking blah, .....any sense of credibility flies right out the window.

You can't beat something with nothing...and, of course, you have nothing and are nothing.

Jefferson's wall of separation was one way: preventing government from imposing a federal religion, not preventing religion and morality.....Judeo-Christian religion, from informing our government.

Get an education.

 

[JoeB131]

Probably oughtta tackle the fetuscide issue first...

Why? Abortion is a good thing. I wouldn't want to share my street with millions of people whose parents didn't want them.

 

[JoeB131]

My point is it takes the irrationality of religious fervor to think that.

I'm not the only one that understands that it doesn't matter if you call it worship, that's exactly what you're doing.

Okay, not really.

you see, I used to worship a God. And I prayed to that God, "God, please don't let my mom die of cancer."

And she died of cancer, because there is no God.

No, my relationship to government isn't anything like that. I pay my taxes (begrudgingly, I could probably cheat a lot more than I do) and I expect government to do the things they promised. if they don't keep their promises, I vote them out and replace them with people who will.

Can't vote God out of office, so that's not even close to the same thing.

 

[PoliticalChic]

They seek to replace God with The State, in order to do away with any vestige of human conscience and permit The State to define what is good and what is evil.

Every attempt they've made throughout their history has failed miserably and killed millions in the process, even in this supposed "enlightened" modern age.

To control the masses, the state first convinced people that their leader was a god. Then when that no longer worked they convinced the masses that their leader spoke for God. Then when that no longer worked they convinced the masses that there is no God, thus making them the ultimate god like authority again.

Far more direct than that......

1. As one of his friends later recalled, "Vladimir Ilych Ulyanov (Lenin) had the courage to come out and say openly that famine would have numerous positive results...Famine, he explained....would bring about the next stage more rapidly, and usher in socialism, the stage that necessarily followed capitalism. Famine would also destroy faith, not only in the tsar, but in God, too."
The Black Book of Communism, p.123-124.



2. "The present moment favors us....With the help of all those starving people who are starting to eat each other, who are dying by the millions, and whose bodies litter the roadside all over the country, it is now and only now, that we can-and therefore must- confiscate all church property with all the ruthless energy we can muster....Our only hope is the despair engendered in the masses by the famine, which will cause them to look at us in a favorable light or at the very least, with indifference."
Lenin, March 19, 1922


3. "For humankind at large Lenin had nothing but scorn: ...individual human beings held for Lenin almost no interest..."
Richard Pipes, "The Unknown Lenin," p. 10

The doctrine of the Left

 

[PoliticalChic]

...from the public arena and the public's consciousness: because it is the only way Leftism can survive.



1. The Founders were all deeply religious, steeped in Judeo-Christian tradition and the Bible. This was the warning:

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other" John Adams to Massachusetts Militia, 11 October 1798




2. Compare that to the worldview of the elites, and the operators of government school:

"Just because any religious idea, any idea of any god at all, any flirtation even with a god, is the most inexpressible foulness, particularly tolerantly (and often even favourably) accepted by the democratic bourgeoisie—for that very reason it is the most dangerous foulness, the most shameful “infection.” A million physical sins, dirty tricks, acts of violence and infections are much more easily discovered by the crowd, and therefore are much less dangerous, than the nubile, spiritual idea of god, dressed up in the most attractive “ideological” costumes."
Letter from Lenin to Maxim Gorky, Written on November 13 or 14, 1913



3. Those who have accepted Liberalism, postmodernism, Progressivism, mock the idea of the Judeo-Christian God, and compare same to Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy.
And, they must.
Because if they accept the traditional view of God....then they would be forced to accept the corollary, the view that Evil, or Satan, or Lucifer, exist as well.....and the evidence would prove that Leftism is animated by that evil.




4. Compare Ronald Reagan's response to the what he named 'the evil empire' to Obama, who embraced and supported evil early on in his political career.

And, this is no surprise, as Barack Obama's mentor was Saul Alinsky, proud of his affiliation with the personification of evil:

"Alinsky dedicated his book to none other than the fallen angel Lucifer, yes that Lucifer, whom he describes as "the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment (that would be God) and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom." Webutante: The Late Saul Alinsky, Obama's Radical Community Organizer Inspirer-in-Chief




If the true animator of Leftism was revealed....the American people would never support any of its iterations:
Liberalism, Progressivism, Nazism, Communism, Socialism or Fascism.
Never.


So....their mission is to banish God and religion.

How did you work fascism into that assertion?

Pay attention.
There is not the slightest difference in the outcome for society as dictated by these six:
Liberalism, Progressivism, Nazism, Communism, Socialism or Fascism.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Probably oughtta tackle the fetuscide issue first...

Why? Abortion is a good thing. I wouldn't want to share my street with millions of people whose parents didn't want them.

Exactly as I stated:
"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life."
Leon Trotsky

 

[hadit]

My point is it takes the irrationality of religious fervor to think that.

I'm not the only one that understands that it doesn't matter if you call it worship, that's exactly what you're doing.

Okay, not really.

you see, I used to worship a God. And I prayed to that God, "God, please don't let my mom die of cancer."

And she died of cancer, because there is no God.

No, my relationship to government isn't anything like that. I pay my taxes (begrudgingly, I could probably cheat a lot more than I do) and I expect government to do the things they promised. if they don't keep their promises, I vote them out and replace them with people who will.

Can't vote God out of office, so that's not even close to the same thing.

Your Mom died of cancer because cancer kills. That doesn't, however, negate the people who have seen miraculous cancer cures through prayer.

You're treating God as if He is an ATM. If you push the right buttons in the right sequence, the goodies fall into your lap. That's not the case.


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[JoeB131]

Exactly as I stated:
"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life."
Leon Trotsky

wow, so Trotsky made all those Christian, Republican women get abortions? Who knew?

 

[PoliticalChic]

PC must be a troll, I have never seen a post or thread that diverges from a standard hatred of the other and/or human development. There is never a sign of humanity nor kindness and tolerance in her threads which are constant negatives. It is the same bitterness over and over again. If not a troll a bitter sad person who really needs a life. You aren't a Russian are you?

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"My mission in life is not merely to survive, but to thrive; and to do so with some passion, some compassion, some humor, and some style." Maya Angelou

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It is hard for me to imagine life as PolitcalChic lives it? A bitter, remorseful resentment so strong that she fails to see how complex all ideas are and how they change and mutate through time. What kind of social, spiritual life can one have when one is so narrowly focused? Eric Hoffer captures the mood of so lost a soul.

"The remarkable thing is that we really love our neighbors as ourselves: we do unto others as we do unto ourselves. We hate others when we hate ourselves. We are tolerant of others when we tolerate ourselves. We forgive others when we forgive ourselves." Eric Hoffer

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5. There is no love of humanity in six totalitarian doctrines.

It is stated, succinctly, by Leon Trotsky"

"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life."


That view is second only to their demand that God be banished.




6. And they are as good as their threat:

"Over the past 100 years the most oppressive ideology in the world has been communism [Marxism]. While the people who lived under it were starved, tortured and murdered, its leaders lived in luxury.
The suppression of ordinary people by their communist rulers far surpasses anything capitalist employers were ever accused of doing. While condemning exploitation, communist dictators turned out to be masters at it.

a. R.J. Rummel estimates that almost 170 million people were killed in the 20th century by their own governments. These are not deaths in war. They are the victims of genocide by the governments in the countries where they lived. Hate on the Left



Now then..... of these six
Liberalism
Communism
Socialism
Progressivism
Fascism
Nazism

How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?
Right....none of 'em.
Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism.



Seems that putting you in your place has become my guilty pleasure.
Write soon!

 

[JoeB131]

Your Mom died of cancer because cancer kills. That doesn't, however, negate the people who have seen miraculous cancer cures through prayer.

Never happens. Ever.

You're treating God as if He is an ATM. If you push the right buttons in the right sequence, the goodies fall into your lap. That's not the case.

No, I don't treat God as anything.

An ATM would require me to have money in my account, so it's not a good analogy. There is no God, therefore no buttons to push.

The thing is, the Priests and the Nuns told us for years that we we JUST PRAYED HARD ENOUGH, God would do all these things for us.

And the nasty old Dyke Nun who made a large part of my childhood miserable had the fucking nerve to say "God had a good reason".

I wish I had pushed her fucking head into the nearest wall!

 

[Vastator]

...from the public arena and the public's consciousness: because it is the only way Leftism can survive.



1. The Founders were all deeply religious, steeped in Judeo-Christian tradition and the Bible. This was the warning:

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other" John Adams to Massachusetts Militia, 11 October 1798




2. Compare that to the worldview of the elites, and the operators of government school:

"Just because any religious idea, any idea of any god at all, any flirtation even with a god, is the most inexpressible foulness, particularly tolerantly (and often even favourably) accepted by the democratic bourgeoisie—for that very reason it is the most dangerous foulness, the most shameful “infection.” A million physical sins, dirty tricks, acts of violence and infections are much more easily discovered by the crowd, and therefore are much less dangerous, than the nubile, spiritual idea of god, dressed up in the most attractive “ideological” costumes."
Letter from Lenin to Maxim Gorky, Written on November 13 or 14, 1913



3. Those who have accepted Liberalism, postmodernism, Progressivism, mock the idea of the Judeo-Christian God, and compare same to Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy.
And, they must.
Because if they accept the traditional view of God....then they would be forced to accept the corollary, the view that Evil, or Satan, or Lucifer, exist as well.....and the evidence would prove that Leftism is animated by that evil.




4. Compare Ronald Reagan's response to the what he named 'the evil empire' to Obama, who embraced and supported evil early on in his political career.

And, this is no surprise, as Barack Obama's mentor was Saul Alinsky, proud of his affiliation with the personification of evil:

"Alinsky dedicated his book to none other than the fallen angel Lucifer, yes that Lucifer, whom he describes as "the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment (that would be God) and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom." Webutante: The Late Saul Alinsky, Obama's Radical Community Organizer Inspirer-in-Chief




If the true animator of Leftism was revealed....the American people would never support any of its iterations:
Liberalism, Progressivism, Nazism, Communism, Socialism or Fascism.
Never.


So....their mission is to banish God and religion.

How did you work fascism into that assertion?

Pay attention.
There is not the slightest difference in the outcome for society as dictated by these six:
Liberalism, Progressivism, Nazism, Communism, Socialism or Fascism.

Pay attention... You haven't provided proof of your assertion. Also monarchy, and democracy aren't on your list. Both of which have examples of similar, if not same; end results as select examples of the governing types you do mention. There is great disparity within your incomplete assertion. Pay attention.

 

[BULLDOG]

They seek to replace God with The State, in order to do away with any vestige of human conscience and permit The State to define what is good and what is evil.

Every attempt they've made throughout their history has failed miserably and killed millions in the process, even in this supposed "enlightened" modern age.

To control the masses, the state first convinced people that their leader was a god. Then when that no longer worked they convinced the masses that their leader spoke for God. Then when that no longer worked they convinced the masses that there is no God, thus making them the ultimate god like authority again.

That's the same pattern the christian priests followed hundreds of years before.

 

[hadit]

Your Mom died of cancer because cancer kills. That doesn't, however, negate the people who have seen miraculous cancer cures through prayer.

Never happens. Ever.

You're treating God as if He is an ATM. If you push the right buttons in the right sequence, the goodies fall into your lap. That's not the case.

No, I don't treat God as anything.

An ATM would require me to have money in my account, so it's not a good analogy. There is no God, therefore no buttons to push.

The thing is, the Priests and the Nuns told us for years that we we JUST PRAYED HARD ENOUGH, God would do all these things for us.

And the nasty old Dyke Nun who made a large part of my childhood miserable had the fucking nerve to say "God had a good reason".

I wish I had pushed her fucking head into the nearest wall!

I get it. You're mad because God didn't miraculously spare your mother. That still doesn't negate the miracles other people have seen.


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[PoliticalChic]

...from the public arena and the public's consciousness: because it is the only way Leftism can survive.



1. The Founders were all deeply religious, steeped in Judeo-Christian tradition and the Bible. This was the warning:

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other" John Adams to Massachusetts Militia, 11 October 1798




2. Compare that to the worldview of the elites, and the operators of government school:

"Just because any religious idea, any idea of any god at all, any flirtation even with a god, is the most inexpressible foulness, particularly tolerantly (and often even favourably) accepted by the democratic bourgeoisie—for that very reason it is the most dangerous foulness, the most shameful “infection.” A million physical sins, dirty tricks, acts of violence and infections are much more easily discovered by the crowd, and therefore are much less dangerous, than the nubile, spiritual idea of god, dressed up in the most attractive “ideological” costumes."
Letter from Lenin to Maxim Gorky, Written on November 13 or 14, 1913



3. Those who have accepted Liberalism, postmodernism, Progressivism, mock the idea of the Judeo-Christian God, and compare same to Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy.
And, they must.
Because if they accept the traditional view of God....then they would be forced to accept the corollary, the view that Evil, or Satan, or Lucifer, exist as well.....and the evidence would prove that Leftism is animated by that evil.




4. Compare Ronald Reagan's response to the what he named 'the evil empire' to Obama, who embraced and supported evil early on in his political career.

And, this is no surprise, as Barack Obama's mentor was Saul Alinsky, proud of his affiliation with the personification of evil:

"Alinsky dedicated his book to none other than the fallen angel Lucifer, yes that Lucifer, whom he describes as "the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment (that would be God) and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom." Webutante: The Late Saul Alinsky, Obama's Radical Community Organizer Inspirer-in-Chief




If the true animator of Leftism was revealed....the American people would never support any of its iterations:
Liberalism, Progressivism, Nazism, Communism, Socialism or Fascism.
Never.


So....their mission is to banish God and religion.

How did you work fascism into that assertion?

Pay attention.
There is not the slightest difference in the outcome for society as dictated by these six:
Liberalism, Progressivism, Nazism, Communism, Socialism or Fascism.

Pay attention... You haven't provided proof of your assertion. Also monarchy, and democracy aren't on your list. Both of which have examples of similar, if not same; end results as select examples of the governing types you do mention. There is great disparity within your incomplete assertion. Pay attention.

OK...OK....stop begging.

I'll provide the lacunae of which government school deprived you.


Let's begin with definitions.
Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life

9. Which restricts free speech and thought?

10. Which can be summed up in Hegel's “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”



And, of course, they all are do...they are all consubstantial.

They are all the same in their ultimate plan for society: a totalitarian regime with the peons marching lock-step.



Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism






How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?
Right....none of 'em.
Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism.

 

[JoeB131]

I get it. You're mad because God didn't miraculously spare your mother. That still doesn't negate the miracles other people have seen.

Right Someone saw the Virgin Mary in a grilled cheese sandwich once. It's a MIRACLE!!!!

How dare anyone doubt the Holy Grilled Cheese Sandwich!!!!

 

[JoeB131]

I wonder what would happen if we applied the consumer fraud laws to religion. Wouldn't that be interesting.

 

[Vastator]

"5. There is no love of humanity in six totalitarian doctrines."

That is incorrect. The "individual" human, and "humanity" aren't interchangeable

 

[PoliticalChic]

As long as we banish those that worship at the altar of big government, I'm cool with that.

The scary thing is you think that there are people who actually "Worship" big government.

Nobody actually does that.

Some people think Government is better at some things than the private sector. That's all.

My point is it takes the irrationality of religious fervor to think that.

I'm not the only one that understands that it doesn't matter if you call it worship, that's exactly what you're doing.

I hope you don't mind if I add to your reading list for the uninformed.


As one eventually becomes weary of having the dull, the uneducated, the ignorant, offer what they consider rebuff to intelligent and informed posts, and in the interests of better debate milieu.....I strongly suggest that no Leftists.....e.g., Democrat, Liberal, Socialist, Communist, Nazi, Progressive, or Fascist.....


....nor any combination or permutation of same, embarrass themselves by offering any post until such time that they complete a study of these three works:


1. "Slouching Towards Gomorrah: Modern Liberalism and American Decline,"
by Robert H. Bork




2. "Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Change,"
by Jonah Goldberg




3. "American Betrayal: The Secret Assault on Our Nation's Character,"
by Diana West



They provide the context for the world in which we live.

And, please, Leftists..... do study the vast and scholarly documentation provided in each tome.





Without having digested the three above, and carefully decided whether they are correct or not, your posts reek of stupidity and a lack of understanding.

I mean that in only the kindest way.









I fully understand the difficulties that this course (pun intended) of action entails....

...as elucidated by the great mind herself...

"Liberals don’t read books- they don’t read anything. That’s why they’re liberals. They watch TV, absorb the propaganda, and vote on the basis of urges."

Coulter







But!!!

Having completed the above assignment, you will find that your experience.....and mine....here on the board will be greatly enhanced.

Begin immediately!!!

Forthwith!!!!!!





4. Extra Credit:

 

[Vastator]

...from the public arena and the public's consciousness: because it is the only way Leftism can survive.



1. The Founders were all deeply religious, steeped in Judeo-Christian tradition and the Bible. This was the warning:

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other" John Adams to Massachusetts Militia, 11 October 1798




2. Compare that to the worldview of the elites, and the operators of government school:

"Just because any religious idea, any idea of any god at all, any flirtation even with a god, is the most inexpressible foulness, particularly tolerantly (and often even favourably) accepted by the democratic bourgeoisie—for that very reason it is the most dangerous foulness, the most shameful “infection.” A million physical sins, dirty tricks, acts of violence and infections are much more easily discovered by the crowd, and therefore are much less dangerous, than the nubile, spiritual idea of god, dressed up in the most attractive “ideological” costumes."
Letter from Lenin to Maxim Gorky, Written on November 13 or 14, 1913



3. Those who have accepted Liberalism, postmodernism, Progressivism, mock the idea of the Judeo-Christian God, and compare same to Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy.
And, they must.
Because if they accept the traditional view of God....then they would be forced to accept the corollary, the view that Evil, or Satan, or Lucifer, exist as well.....and the evidence would prove that Leftism is animated by that evil.




4. Compare Ronald Reagan's response to the what he named 'the evil empire' to Obama, who embraced and supported evil early on in his political career.

And, this is no surprise, as Barack Obama's mentor was Saul Alinsky, proud of his affiliation with the personification of evil:

"Alinsky dedicated his book to none other than the fallen angel Lucifer, yes that Lucifer, whom he describes as "the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment (that would be God) and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom." Webutante: The Late Saul Alinsky, Obama's Radical Community Organizer Inspirer-in-Chief




If the true animator of Leftism was revealed....the American people would never support any of its iterations:
Liberalism, Progressivism, Nazism, Communism, Socialism or Fascism.
Never.


So....their mission is to banish God and religion.

How did you work fascism into that assertion?

Pay attention.
There is not the slightest difference in the outcome for society as dictated by these six:
Liberalism, Progressivism, Nazism, Communism, Socialism or Fascism.

Pay attention... You haven't provided proof of your assertion. Also monarchy, and democracy aren't on your list. Both of which have examples of similar, if not same; end results as select examples of the governing types you do mention. There is great disparity within your incomplete assertion. Pay attention.

OK...OK....stop begging.

I'll provide the lacunae of which government school deprived you.


Let's begin with definitions.
Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life

9. Which restricts free speech and thought?

10. Which can be summed up in Hegel's “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”



And, of course, they all are do...they are all consubstantial.

They are all the same in their ultimate plan for society: a totalitarian regime with the peons marching lock-step.



Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism






How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?
Right....none of 'em.
Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism.

Every form of governance that has ever existed, has engaged in the "grievances" you have listed. Every single one