Why jews were sometimes discriminated in europe?

[hobelim]

How does one have a burger unless one slaughters it?
Over 90% of the animals slaughtered in The Temple were eaten by the visitors.

The problem is that the laws of ritual slaughter are not and never were about killing farm animals in the name of the Lord not to mention that fact that the Sanctuary of God, like Divine providence, cannot be made by human hands.

Aside from that, how do you explain the fact that the history of the Jewish people follows perfectly the maledictions promised by Moses for failure to conform to Divine law if building a temple and slaughtering farm animals was the right way to follow it? Not to mention the fact that Moses said; "For I know that after my death you will corrupt yourselves and turn aside from the way that I taught to follow [the law] and evil will befall you in the future; because you will do that which is evil in the sight of the LORD, provoking him to anger through the work of your hands."

Deuteronomy 31:29

 

[Indeependent]

The problem is that the laws of ritual slaughter are not and never were about killing farm animals in the name of the Lord not to mention that fact that the Sanctuary of God, like Divine providence, cannot be made by human hands.

Aside from that, how do you explain the fact that the history of the Jewish people follows perfectly the maledictions promised by Moses for failure to conform to Divine law if building a temple and slaughtering farm animals was the right way to follow it? Not to mention the fact that Moses said; " after my death you will corrupt yourselves and turn aside from the way that I taught to follow [the law] and evil will befall you in the future; because you will do that which is evil in the sight of the LORD, provoking him to anger through the work of your hands."

Why did you omit the end of the prophecy where God states He will being us back to the Land of Israel because He promised Avraham, Yitzchak and Yaakov.?
Do you enjoy omitting verses that don't back up your stance?

 

[hobelim]

Why did you omit the end of the prophecy where God states He will being us back to the Land of Israel because He promised Avraham, Yitzchak and Yaakov.?
Do you enjoy omitting verses that don't back up your stance?

I do not deny that that has happened but with people like Hashev pretending to be the chosen future high priest and is dedicated his life to rebuilding a new temple (along with many people of like mind committed to doing the same old shit) I am afraid that it's not going to be a blessing.

Do you believe that the Sanctuary of God can be built by human hands?

Do you believe that the subject of Kosher Law is about diet?

If you do, you need to go back to the drawing board. It's a matter of life and death...literally.

 

[Indeependent]

I do not deny that that has happened but with people like Hashev pretending to be the chosen future high priest and is dedicated his life to rebuilding a new temple (along with many people of like mind committed to doing the same old shit) it doesn't seem like that it's going to be a blessing.

Do you believe that the Sanctuary of God can be built by human hands?

Why not?
There is no verse that says no.
The controversy is if the Leviem or the Kohanim will serve in the Temple.

However, you still purposely omitted a verse that does not support your stance.

 

[hobelim]

Why not?
There is no verse that says no.

Can Divine providence be built by human hands? It's not written down anywhere but the obvious answer is no.

As it is written, the messiah will lead people back to the sanctuary of God, not build one.

The sanctuary of God is the promise for complying with the laws demands, life with abundant blessings and divine protection. If you think that's about a building made by human hands you are under a delusion.

Every prophetic vision of a temple is of one made with human stones, including the pillars and the Capstone.

“What are you, mighty mountain? Before Zerubbabel you will become level ground. Then he will bring out the capstone to shouts of ‘God bless it! God bless it!’” Zechariah 4:7

Try and learn to say, Baruch haba b'Shem Adonai.

 

[Indeependent]

Can Divine providence be built by human hands? It's not written down anywhere but the obvious answer is no.

As it is written, the messiah will lead people back to the sanctuary of God, not build one.

The sanctuary of God is the promise for complying with the laws demands, life with abundant blessings and divine protection. If you think that's about a building made by human hands you are under a delusion.

Every prophetic vision of a temple is of one made with human stones, including the pillars and the

“What are you, mighty mountain? Before Zerubbabel you will become level ground. Then he will bring out the capstone to shouts of ‘God bless it! God bless it!’” Zechariah 4:7

Try and learn to say, Baruch haba b'Shem Adonai.

It's obvious you don't even know what the word Moshiach means.
There's no magic man coming down the pike.
Even King David was rejected by at least half the kingdom even after his death.

 

[DudleySmith]

Christian Persecution of Jews over the Centuries — United States Holocaust Memorial Museum

https://www.jstor.org/stable/23920780

Anti-Semitism of the "Church Fathers"

When it comes to Hate and Bigotry, you are the Masters

A lot of rubbish you like to scare your kids with, mostly projection. It keeps you from having to tell them real history. What you and your Muslim partners did for going on 1,800 years to Christians was worse by far, and then you made up a whole body of bullshit making yourselves out to be hapless innocents. It was the height of arrogance for Da Evul Xians to defend themselves from you and your Muslim heroes, right?

 

[hobelim]

It's obvious you don't even know what the word Moshiach means.
There's no magic man coming down the pike.
Even King David was rejected by at least half the kingdom even after his death.

Pft.

The messiah will be anointed to teach the only right way to understand and comply with the Law's demands that fulfills the promise of life with abundant blessings and Divine protection, (he will convey all my commands). Deut. 18:18. This already happened a very very very long time ago.

Anyway, nice try at deflection...Still, you can't unread what you read.

Try to ignore it and it will become a consuming fire burning within you.

 

[irosie91]

for the record-----the LEVITES---owned NO HEREDITARY LAND in the agrarian society which
was ancient Israel. The animal sacrifices in the \
Temple fed them. -----try to cope. The sacrifices
served a practical purpose in THAT SOCIAL STRUCTURE

 

[DudleySmith]

According to you. According to us and our tradition, Moses was given both the Written and Oral Torah at Sinai.

Your 'tradition' is obviously made up. It doesn't even show up until late, not until hundreds of years after the Babylonian Exiles returned and set themselves up as 'the pure Jews'.

 

[irosie91]

Your 'tradition' is obviously made up. It doesn't even show up until late, not until hundreds of years after the Babylonian Exiles returned and set themselves up as 'the pure Jews'.

??? what is the "IT" in your mind that "...doesn't
even show up.." ?????????????

 

[DudleySmith]

for the record-----the LEVITES---owned NO HEREDITARY LAND in the agrarian society which
was ancient Israel. The animal sacrifices in the \
Temple fed them. -----try to cope. The sacrifices
served a practical purpose in THAT SOCIAL STRUCTURE

So how did the Levites survive before the Temple scam? Are you saying the Saduccees and Pharisees were all Levites?

 

[DudleySmith]

??? what is the "IT" in your mind that "...doesn't
even show up.." ?????????????

If you want to follow a discussion then read all the posts; 'it' is that silly fabricated 'super secret Oral Torah' Babylonian Jews who weren't happy with the real Torah invented to suit themselves and then pronounced it a 'tradition'.

 

[USAF 2023]

A lot of rubbish you like to scare your kids with, mostly projection. It keeps you from having to tell them real history. What you and your Muslim partners did for going on 1,800 years to Christians was worse by far, and then you made up a whole body of bullshit making yourselves out to be hapless innocents. It was the height of arrogance for Da Evul Xians to defend themselves from you and your Muslim heroes, right?

Denying the above?

A lot of rubbish you like to scare your kids with, mostly projection. It keeps you from having to tell them real history. What you and your Muslim partners did for going on 1,800 years to Christians was worse by far, and then you made up a whole body of bullshit making yourselves out to be hapless innocents. It was the height of arrogance for Da Evul Xians to defend themselves from you and your Muslim heroes, right?

Denying the above? You are the one who denies Real History. The truth hurts. Please tell us how the Jewish people abused you. Keep justifying your bigotry, racism and hatred

 

[DudleySmith]

Denying the above?

Denying the above? You are the one who denies Real History. The truth hurts. Please tell us how the Jewish people abused you. Keep justifying your bigotry, racism and hatred

lol more projection. You're the racist bigot here.

 

[irosie91]

So how did the Levites survive before the Temple scam? Are you saying the Saduccees and Pharisees were all Levites?

don't quit your day job. What is 'the temple
scam'?? The economy of the "LAND OF ISRAEL"
was agrarian. The lands were DISTRIBUTED to the
tribes as HEREDITARY LANDS except for the tribe of
LEVI which was designated as levites--priest and keepers of the Temple
The survival of the LEVITES who had PREVIOUSLY
been shepherds depended on some sort of
payment for their services. They were excluded from
farming AND HUSBANDRY by their lack of land.
It is simple stuff except for the very simple-minded

 

[hobelim]

'it' is that silly fabricated 'super secret Oral Torah'

No one is to engage in discussion or disputation with men of ill repute; and in the company of froward men everyone is to abstain from talk about (keep hidden) the meaning of the Law [Torah].

When these men have undergone, with blamelessness of conduct, a two year preparation in the fundamentals of the community, they shall be segregated as especially sacred among the formal members of the community. Any knowledge which the expositor of the law may possess but which may have to remain arcane to the ordinary layman, he shall not keep hidden from them; for in their case there need be no fear that it might induce apostasy.

dead sea scrolls, Manual of Discipline

These instructions in use at the time of Jesus clearly show that there was hidden teaching in the law, that was never written down, held back from their own laity and the rest of the world.

This is why Jesus said, "No one lights a candle and hides it under a bushel." A reference to the law being given as a light to the nations.

And that's why the religious authorities asked where Jesus got his teaching, not because it was unknown but because it was supposed to be kept secret, especially from froward people like Jesus. They couldn't believe that Jesus received this teaching from a Divine revelation from God himself.

 

[irosie91]

No one is to engage in discussion or disputation with men of ill repute; and in the company of froward men everyone is to abstain from talk about (keep hidden) the meaning of the Law [Torah].

When these men have undergone, with blamelessness of conduct, a two year preparation in the fundamentals of the community, they shall be segregated as especially sacred among the formal members of the community. Any knowledge which the expositor of the law may possess but which may have to remain arcane to the ordinary layman, he shall not keep hidden from them; for in their case there need be no fear that it might induce apostasy.

dead sea scrolls, Manual of Discipline

These verses in use at the time of Jesus clearly show that there was hidden teaching in the law held back from the laity.

This is why Jesus said, "No one lights a candle and hides it under a bushel."

And that's why the religious authorities asked where Jesus got his teaching, not because it was unknown but because it was supposed to be kept secret.

the group that wrote the dead sea scrolls was a very
SPECIFIC separatist movement from mainstream
Judaism-----something like a cult. Cults keep secrets. Do you know how "layman" was expressed
in the original hebrew of the scrolls?

 

[irosie91]

If you want to follow a discussion then read all the posts; 'it' is that silly fabricated 'super secret Oral Torah' Babylonian Jews who weren't happy with the real Torah invented to suit themselves and then pronounced it a 'tradition'.

there is nothing "super secret" about the Babylonian Talmud. -----never was. Even you
can read it in translation. Anyone BACK THEN who
could read hebrew and aramaic could also read it.

 

[surada]

the group that wrote the dead sea scrolls was a very
SPECIFIC separatist movement from mainstream
Judaism-----something like a cult. Cults keep secrets. Do you know how "layman" was expressed
in the original hebrew of the scrolls?

The Essenes didn't write the scrolls. They just stored and preserved them.