Zone1 Why is it so tough to believe in God?

[Fort Fun Indiana]

What I get, is that I know many, most, will reject God and Christ. And, I get, that those who are of God will find it difficult, if not impossible, to not believe. Those difficulties I leave to God.

My purpose is as a 'witness' for Christ and God. To give the Truth. Whether one believes or rejects, God is pleased with the witness.

(2 Cor. 2:14-16) "Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place.

"For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish:

"To the one we are the savour of death unto death; and to the other the savour of life unto life." And who is sufficient for these things?"

Quantrill

So no, you don't get it and aren't even trying.

I will extend the same amount of empathy and thoughtfulness to you, going forward.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Absolutely.

I think teaching irrational religious beliefs to children, without a rational oral explanation, before they learn about reality, science, history, literature, and biology amounts to murder because of the harmful effects on mental health, relationships, and self-esteem (the reason porn was restricted) crippled for life by delusional beliefs that many never recover from, in a very poignant way dead; dead to the truth dead to themselves and dead to others.

But the ones who would not reject the magical hoo ha as adults are the rare geniuses that understand how to grasp the lessons taught in any fairy tale or fantastical story filled with magical hoo ha written to educate children

In other words, adults that understand fiction is fiction, when reading it.

 

[hobelim]

In other words, adults that understand fiction is fiction, when reading it.

And there are even some adults who understand that all fiction alludes to fact.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And then there are adults who understand that all fiction alludes to fact.

Uh huh.

 

[hobelim]

Uh huh.

Right.

No adult authors a fictional children's story to educate themselves about life, some truth in the real world, even if in it are devils, angels, crafty talking serpents who "beguile" the gullible and cowardly, heaven and hell, big bad wolves, puppets becoming real boys, oligarchs ******* with people from mount Olympus, or talking donkeys.

Maybe one day you will be the star character of your very own children's book titled Mr Smartypants Gets a Clue.

And then some genius would say, Horseshit! Such a clueless and educated person never existed. Its all fiction. lol

 

[hobelim]

You're god is a phony. You're jesus is a phony.

Okey dokey. Thanks for sharing!

BTW, I just received an urgent last chance communication from my God through my Jesus, especially for you!

"All things shall betray you who betrays me."

So you can ram all that openly revealed pure hatred for my God, the only God in existence, right up your snout.

 

[Quantrill]

So no, you don't get it and aren't even trying.

I will extend the same amount of empathy and thoughtfulness to you, going forward.

Oh yes, I get it. I don't play by your rules. I go by the Bible.

I care not for your empathy or thoughtfulness. Save it for someone else.

Quantrill

 

[Quantrill]

Okey dokey. Thanks for sharing!

BTW, I just received an urgent last chance communication from my God through my Jesus, especially for you!

"All things shall betray you who betrays me."

So you can ram all that openly revealed pure hatred for my God, the only God in existence, right up your snout.

You're welcome. I love to share with phonies.

I care not for your phony god and his and your last chance communication.

Yada, yada, yadda. Big talk. No substance.

Go play god somewhere else.

Quantrill

 

[hobelim]

You're welcome. I love to share with phonies.

And you really don't have an inkling that what you have been "sharing" reveals you as the one who is the phony? "I piss on your god. I shit on your god" over and over again, revealing the depths of your agony burning in hell.

Fascinating!

And some people don't believe in death, a curse, for defying the Law of my God by worshipping the Antichrist.

Imagine that!

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Right.

No adult authors a fictional children's story to educate themselves about life, some truth in the real world, even if in it are devils, angels, crafty talking serpents who "beguile" the gullible and cowardly, heaven and hell, big bad wolves, puppets becoming real boys, oligarchs ******* with people from mount Olympus, or talking donkeys.

Maybe one day you will be the star character of your very own children's book titled Mr Smartypants Gets a Clue.

And then some genius would say, Horseshit! Such a clueless and educated person never existed. Its all fiction. lol

Sure, some people write fables.

Yes, fables are written. Yes. We can get morals from them.

See? Short and sweet.

 

[hobelim]

Sure, some people write fables.

Yes, fables are written. Yes. We can get morals from them.

Exactly.

Most honest people get that in under a second. To what do you attribute the fact that some people never get it?

My point is that this oblivious state of mind mingled with dishonesty and pretense is what the authors of the Bible called "the death", a curse, which could be accurately defined as a mental illness which is a type of hell, isn't it?

So what's up with you always denigrating the stories in the Bible as just magical bullshit? Make up your mind.

 

[ding]

No, that is you thinking way too much of yourself. I alerted you long ago that I only respond to your pathetic attempts at derision for the benefit of others standing around WATCHING. I reckoned that since you don't seem to mind Jesus, an innocent man, being sacrificed for you I decided to sacrifice you, a he goat (guilty as sin) and slaughtered in the kindest way possible with the sharpest knife known to man, for the expiation of sin itself.

And the life of the world.

The fat trimmed from the flesh stripped from your broken bones and thrown on the fire is a soothing and fragrant offering to the Lord, my God.

Are you still obsessing over me, stalker?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

To what do you attribute the fact that some people never get it?

Simple. They think the fables are not fables. They think they are literal accounts. Just ask them.

Because they aren't fables. Fables don't purport themselves to be true stories.

These people just believe they are true.

 

[hobelim]

Are you still obsessing over me, stalker?

Don't be silly. When you post something irrational to me I respond with something rational to you.

Thats how conversations work.

I post something true like there is no such thing as a trinity that was a perfect human sacrifice and then for some mysterious reason this sets you off into a shameful crude emotional meltdown usually focused on butt *******.

Whats up with that? Try to keep it together. You are in way over your head.

The voice of the Lord makes the wilderness writhe in travail; the Lord makes the wilderness writhe.

 

[Quantrill]

And you really don't have an inkling that what you have been "sharing" reveals you as the one who is the phony? "I piss on your god. I shit on your god" over and over again, revealing the depths of your agony burning in hell.

Fascinating!

And some people don't believe in death, a curse, for defying the Law of my God by worshipping the Antichrist.

Imagine that!

I defy the law of your god. He is shit.

Imagine that.

Quantrill

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I defy the law of your god. He is shit.

Imagine that.

Quantrill

Now you know how everyone else feels about your fetish god character.

I'm going to help you get this, eventually.

 

[Quantrill]

Now you know how everyone else feels about your fetish god character.

I'm going to help you get this, eventually.

Old news, I already know how you atheists feel about God. You're not going to get anything. Your atheism offers nothing.

And hobelim is different as he uses the Bible but does not believe the Bible. He pretends to follow a god and a jesus of the bible but he hates the God and Jesus of the Bible. He is a fake. A phony.

Quantrill

 

[ding]

Don't be silly. When you post something irrational to me I respond with something rational to you.

Thats how conversations work.

I post something true like there is no such thing as a trinity that was a perfect human sacrifice and then for some mysterious reason this sets you off into a shameful crude emotional meltdown usually focused on butt *******.

Whats up with that? Try to keep it together. You are in way over your head.

The voice of the Lord makes the wilderness writhe in travail; the Lord makes the wilderness writhe.

I don't have conversations with people who behave like religious nutjobs. That would be illogical.

 

[DonGlock26]

Is it because:

• Lack of belief we are lovable
• Lack of belief we are cared for
• Lack of belief God is an active agent in our lives
• Lack of belief we have a reason for being

What blocks people from believing in God? Why is it so hard to believe?

They want to be their own god and use situational ethics as their personal moral code.

 

[Meriweather]

They want to be their own god and use situational ethics as their personal moral code.

I wonder what percentage of the population believe there is an objective good that can be found by all. On the pendulum, we seem to be swinging in the area that everyone should define their own good, and leave others to do the same. Back in Biblical times, the Israelite population decided the same thing, and came to the conclusion this did not work--and demanded a king to fix it. This was an answer; it did help--but was it the best answer.

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. And....if the answer is not a king, what might be?