Zone1 Why is it so tough to believe in God?

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As people age and get both more mature and more educated, they tend to leave their childish religious toys behind.

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According to Darwinian principles if belief in God offered no functional advantage it would have died out long ago.

How has atheism enriched your life?

 

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Youre confused. Believe in Jesus or youll burn in hell. Thats a threat
A fire extinguisher is prevention, insurance. Your analogy is quite dumb and not well thought out

Not really different at all. Your problem - and most people's problem - is that saying believing in Jesus is too vague to have any value. It's easy to connect the dots for the fire extinguisher to the risk. Not so much for saying believe in Jesus. There's way more to it than you know or care to know. It's not about heaven or hell. It's about living. An living the good life eliminates the risks associated with living the bad life. So no different than the fire extinguisher analogy.

 

[Meriweather]

Believe in Jesus or youll burn in hell. Thats a threat

There are over 7,900 verses in the New Testament. Why are you stuck on one, taken out context?

 

[hobelim]

Spoken like a religious nutjob using hell as a scare tactic.

Thats hilarious! What do you think your church has done to you ever since you were a supple young lad?

But I am not saying that you are going to hell. I am telling you that you are already in it. You are an idolator who incessantly lies in the name of God and openly desecrates the teachings of Jesus every day of your pathetic existence and so you died a very long time ago and descended into Gehenna where you feast on the trash discarded by superior intelligences like a rat who thinks that he found paradise after falling into a garbage dump.


YOU HAVE YOUR REWARD ALREADY.

I don't worry about hell. I have a relationship with God.

You have an imaginary relationship with a trinity that became a Jewish man only to become a human sacrifice just so dimwits like you can be an asshole and sin with impunity for life without any sense of guilt or shame.

So of course you don't worry about hell because you are already in it, UNAWARE, the realm of the dead, where in your unrestrained imagination you believe that everyone who is not under your delusion, that God became a perfect human sacrifice to pay the penalty for your sins, derp, is going to burn in the fires of hell forever. Sucker.

I can do all things through God who strengthens me.

Ha! You cannot rise from the dead in spite of your impressive faith in the ridiculous because you have been judged by my God to be unworthy of the resurrection. You lack substance in the disciplines of humility and honesty required to rise to eternal life. Crying won't help you, praying to a false god will do you no good.

You have my condolences.

Don't take it too hard. At least you get to live in fantasy land for the rest of your days as life itself passes you by.

 

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Thats hilarious! What do you think your church has done to you ever since you were a supple young lad?

But I am not telling you that you are going to hell. I am telling you that you are already in it. You are an idolator who incessantly lies in the name of God and openly desecrates the teachings of Jesus every day of your pathetic existence.


You have an imaginary relationship with a trinity that became a Jewish man only to become a human sacrifice just so dimwits like you can be an asshole and sin with impunity for life without any sense of guilt or shame.

So of course you don't worry about hell because you are already in it, the realm of the dead, where in your unrestrained imagination you believe that everyone who is not under your delusion, that God became a perfect human sacrifice, is going to hell.



Ha! You cannot rise from the dead in spite of your impressive faith in the ridiculous because you have been judged by my God to be unworthy of the resurrection. You lack substance in the disciplines of humility and honesty required to rise to eternal life.

You have my condolences.

Don't take it too hard. At least you get to live in fantasy land for the rest of your days as life itself passes you by.

I think you have mental problems and are a very unhappy person.

 

[Hafar1014]

I think you have mental problems and are a very unhappy person.

Atheists often experience feelings of inferiority and need to denigrate others to elevate themselves.

 

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Atheists often experience feelings of inferiority and need to denigrate others to elevate themselves.

Not all of them. Just the militant ones who are on a mission to subvert religion. It's a very Marxist thing.

 

[hobelim]

I think most people who believe in God were brainwashed as children.

I think that, if presented with this magical hoo ha as fully formed and educated adults, most of them would have rejected it outright.

Absolutely.

I think teaching irrational religious beliefs to children, without a rational oral explanation, before they learn about reality, science, history, literature, and biology amounts to murder because of the harmful effects on mental health, relationships, and self-esteem (the reason porn was restricted) crippled for life by delusional beliefs that many never recover from, in a very poignant way dead; dead to the truth dead to themselves and dead to others.

But the ones who would not reject the magical hoo ha as adults are the rare geniuses that understand how to grasp the lessons taught in any fairy tale or fantastical story filled with magical hoo ha written to educate children

 

[Hafar1014]

Not all of them. Just the militant ones who are on a mission to subvert religion. It's a very Marxist thing.

Its is interesting because I find them very supportive of socialist policies. Also Marists nations were atheist.

 

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Its is interesting because I find them very supportive of socialist policies. Also Marists nations were atheist.

Yes, but not all of them. Some of them are far right, But I would agree that the rule is as you say. Most of them who do that are supportive of socialist policies.

 

[hobelim]

I think you have mental problems and are a very unhappy person.

Oh my! Should I take medication because of your projection of yourself onto me Dr. Doolittle? Wait a minute!



ahhhh, thats better!

Thanks!

 

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Oh my! Should I take medication because of your projection of yourself onto me Dr. Doolittle? Wait a minute!



ahhhh, thats better!

Thanks!

You should seek psychiatric help.

 

[hobelim]

You should seek psychiatric help.

Yeah, yeah yeah. Thats what all the lunatics desperately clinging to addled religious flotsam scurrilously say. And thats exactly what many said about the Jesus you love so much you celebrate his death and solemnly eat him.

If you don't believe me you can look it up. (Mark 3:21) You really need to come up with some new material.

You are making a greater fool of yourself than your church has already made of you decades ago, UNAWARE.

Fascinating!

 

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Yeah, yeah yeah. Thats what all the lunatics desperately clinging to addled religious flotsam scurrilously say. And thats exactly what many said about the Jesus you love so much you celebrate his death and solemnly eat him.

If you don't believe me you can look it up. (Mark 3:21) You really need to come up with some new material.

You are making a greater fool of yourself than your church has already made of you decades ago, UNAWARE.

Fascinating!

Listen to yourself obsess over other people's religious beliefs. That's not normal. Seek help.

 

[hobelim]

Listen to yourself obsess over other people's religious beliefs. That's not normal. Seek help.

I am just showing where wrong and right and judgment lie. You are a deranged stalker who is obsessed with me.

Thats not normal.

As if me alerting people to the FACT that they've been schnookered by a 4th century Roman scam is a bad thing.

**** off.

 

[toobfreak]

How can there be 60 pages on such a simple question? It is tough to believe in God because:

1. The world is full of reasons to believe there is no such God, unless you just happen to realize that most all of the suffering and misery is caused by man.
2. God is like lightning--- many see lightning but few are struck by it.

 

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I am just showing where wrong and right and judgment lie. You are a deranged stalker who is obsessed with me.

Thats not normal.

As if me alerting people to the FACT that they've been schnookered by a 4th century Roman scam is a bad thing.

**** off.

 

[hobelim]

Just goes to show what Jesus meant when he said, "I have not come to bring peace but a sword."

"He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword."

Bottoms up sweet cheeks!

 

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Just goes too show, "He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword." Bottoms up sweet cheeks!

This is YOU acting like a deranged stalker who is obsessed with me.

 

[hobelim]

This is YOU acting like a deranged stalker who is obsessed with me.

No, that is you thinking way too much of yourself. I alerted you long ago that I only respond to your pathetic attempts at derision for the benefit of others standing around WATCHING. I reckoned that since you don't seem to mind Jesus, an innocent man, being sacrificed for you I decided to sacrifice you, a he goat (guilty as sin) and slaughtered in the kindest way possible with the sharpest knife known to man, for the expiation of sin itself.

And the life of the world.

The fat trimmed from the flesh stripped from your broken bones and thrown on the fire is a soothing and fragrant offering to the Lord, my God.