Why Evolution is a Fairytale for Grown-Ups

[alang1216]

5. Is my name of the Creator GOD. Do you have a different name?

Nature.

 

[progressive hunter]

That is abiogenesis, not evolution, but the answer is, in my opinion, cellular precursors like self-replicating molecules encased in lipid shells. All that is required for life is growth and replication and then the laws of evolution kick in.

again with opinions based on assumptions,,

so you cant tell us how the first apes were created,,

so why sold I believe anything you claim??

youre talking in circles,,

 

[alang1216]

Blacks are you mean.

Glad you offered an honest opinion. Yes all Blacks are apes, but don't worry, they are no better than you.

 

[Robert W]

If by superior you mean better able to manufacture vitamin D from sun light, then yes. If you mean being more susceptible to skin cancer, then not so much.

There are other issues that would point to whites as superior. I am not talking of common things concerning blacks that lead to prejudice or bigotry.

The idea behind evolution is living things improve. If you think whites never improved, why not?

I think you should be able to do better than your weak attempt. This was not an insult since my meaning is you argue one point and against other views. It seems you fancy yourself as our evolution expert. That means I get to ask questions of our resident expert on evolution. If not, tell me.

 

[alang1216]

again with opinions based on assumptions,,

No one was around 4 billion years ago and there is little evidence so, yes, the mechanism for abiogenesis is only opinions based on assumptions.

so you cant tell us how the first apes were created,,

I already answered that.

so why sold I believe anything you claim??

You shouldn't believe me, you should believe the work of thousands of scientists over the last 170 years.

 

[Robert W]

Glad you offered an honest opinion. Yes all Blacks are apes, but don't worry, they are no better than you.

My issue is not better as prejudiced humans look at it. It is things like brains, lungs, hearts, worse health conditions and other I Expect honest evolution teachers to be able to explain. Apparently you feel best at qualifying them as next to Apes.

 

[Robert W]

No one was around 4 billion years ago and there is little evidence so, yes, the mechanism for abiogenesis is only opinions based on assumptions.

Read Schopf's excellent books and pick up knowledge about abiogenesis. I have one of his books coming to me. Why buy his book? Because the man is an excellent teacher. His students have a gold mine in him.

 

[progressive hunter]

No one was around 4 billion years ago and there is little evidence so, yes, the mechanism for abiogenesis is only opinions based on assumptions.


I already answered that.


You shouldn't believe me, you should believe the work of thousands of scientists over the last 170 years.

you seem to be their representative,,

but thanks for confirming evo is opinions based on assumuptions,,

but you claim to know apes gave birth to humans so why dont you know what gave birth to apes??

 

[Robert W]

Nature.

We use that term a lot yet it too has questions.
Does nature have intelligence?

Say we do this experiment. From Professor Schopf, I learned that to be living, one must have 4 features. CHONPS. Those elements must be in life other than P and S constantly. S is not in all life, but a lot of life.

Professor J. William Schopf is a pioneer in paleobiology who has made significant contributions to our understanding of the origin and early evolution of life on Earth, particularly focusing on the elements essential for life. His research has been instrumental in confirming the early emergence of life, including the discovery of 3.5 billion-year-old microfossils in Australia. Schopf's work emphasizes the importance of elements like carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, and nitrogen as the building blocks of life.

Elaborating on Professor Schopf's work:

• Discovery of Early Life:
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  Schopf's most famous discovery was the identification of fossilized microorganisms in Australia's Apex chert, dating back 3.5 billion years. This finding provided strong evidence that life emerged relatively early in Earth's history and that its evolution was not as slow as previously thought.
  
  
• Focus on Microfossils:
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  Schopf's research has extensively focused on studying microfossils, which are microscopic fossils that provide insights into the early evolution of life. He has analyzed various microfossils, including those from the Apex chert, to understand the nature and diversity of ancient microbial life.
  
  
• Elements of Life:
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  Schopf's work has highlighted the importance of specific elements in the formation of life. The four major elements (carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, and nitrogen) are considered fundamental to the structure and function of all living things. These elements are the primary components of the macromolecules that make up cells, such as proteins, carbohydrates, lipids, and nucleic acids.
  
  
• Research Publications:
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  Schopf has authored several books and numerous peer-reviewed publications on the origins of life, paleobiology, and the early evolution of life on Earth. His work has been recognized for its contribution to the field and its impact on our understanding of the history of life.
  
  
• Cradle of Life:
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  Schopf's book, "Cradle of Life: The Discovery of Earth's Earliest Fossils," provides a comprehensive account of the research and discoveries related to the origin of life, including his own work on microfossils. This book is often recommended for those interested in learning more about the early evolution of life.

 

[Robert W]

Yes all Blacks are apes, but don't worry, they are no better than you.

But that is not my concerns. Are Apes worse than blacks? If you say yes, elaborate to we so called deniers.

 

[Robert W]

LoL! Telling me I "enjoy massacres" is a "nice conversation"??? No human here seems to be enjoying ANY conversation with you, myself included. You're clearly a grade-A fruit loop. Tell ya what, ya kook...go do your laundry. I can tell you've got lots of it...right up HERE.

Your wings are broken. Still you manage to fly off the handle.

 

[scruffy]

If everything is constantly evolving, then there is no absolute truth.

Non sequitur.

Just because things change doesn't mean there are no rules.

The very second you make a truth statement, as you did above, you destroy the evolution theory.

Armchair philosophy is worthless.

 

[scruffy]

We are evolving morally, physically not so much.

Horseshit.

We are devolving morally, whereas the average height of a human being keeps increasing

 

[scruffy]

breeding isnt mutation,,

Yes it is. It's recombination, which is a form of mutation.

sorry youre so ignorant,, I hope youre not home schooling your children,,

You should learn some math.

 

[scruffy]

It is fundamental to understanding science of this topic by understanding the beginning. Schopf declared with proof that life started as cyanobacteria. Your ancestors he says are bacteria. How do you factor that in your theory?

Let me present you with a huge problem for evolution.

Let's discuss the very first human.
Did that human have a heart? A brain? Kidneys, bowels and muscles?

Try explaining the magic of not having those but being the first human?
Then the chicken and egg problem.
Science argues over what happened first. The chicken laying eggs or eggs being the basis of the first chicken. Your concept contains tons of things you won't be able to explain.

You're the one deflecting.

Evolution is biophysics, not chickens and eggs.

Evolution is biophysics, not species.

Evolution is biophysics. Math. Combinatorics.

Learn the basics, before you invoke the end results.

 

[scruffy]

Here is your problem. This planet, early on was lifeless.

No, it wasn't.

You just don't get it.

There's no such thing as "a"-bio

EVERYTHING is bio.

Bio is a direct consequence of the quantum fabric of the universe.

It is THAT which is alive. "Bio" has nothing to do with it.

At some point you have to use simple logic, and stop listening to Google.

Bio is math. Combinatorics. Complexity. That's all you're looking at, it ain't nothing different.

 

[scruffy]

Nature.

Potato potahto.

It doesn't matter what you CALL it.

You guys are arguing about what color the sky is.

 

[scruffy]

the mechanism for abiogenesis is only opinions based on assumptions.
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No it isn't. It's a scientific theory based on evidence, just like relativity and the quantum theory.

 

[scruffy]

The fabric of evolution can be traced all the way to the observation that there is no such thing as "empty" space.

Particles pop into existence, and pop out again. That's life. That's why there's no such thing as "zero" temperature.

The life YOU speak of, is combinatorics, complexity, and stability. But fundamentally it is no different than particles popping into and out of existence.

Did you ever listen to scientists trying to "define life"? It's hilarious! They can't do it! No scientist (or anyone else) has ever been able to define the boundary between life and non-life. THAT'S BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ONE. You'd think these idiots would eventually get tired of beating their heads against a brick wall.

You can call it nature, you can call it God, you can call it life or whatever else you want, but fighting about it is a waste of time - time that could and should be spent on experimentation and the acquisition of knowledge and understanding.

Both sides in this discussion are steeped in semantics, and it prevents them from discerning the simple truths.

Someone earlier in this thread referenced the famous quote by Sherlock Holmes. Use it, live by it, get to know its power. There is no contradiction between nature and God, no contradiction between creation and evolution. "Whatever remains, must be the truth".

The silliest thing in the world, is to deny what's right in front of you.