These conversations start with intentional or unintentional false premises that are perpetuated by excluding many aspects of the issue.
There are those born into poverty. There are those born into the middle class. And there are those born into wealth.
The narrative or the assumption that the poor have no capacity to move into different economic 'classes' is false just as the wealthy are perpetually wealthy and can't fall downward based on poor financial decisions.
Poverty is not an absolute, neither is the middle class or the wealthy class. HOWEVER, our fixation on trying to fix the outcome or the current situation, rather than focusing on how to educate and create better and more opportunities for people to eliminate or greatly reduce poverty as an outcome is where the greater focus should be. Taxing the rich the bandaid.
What we should do: We have poors, so let's examine why they are poor. Let's look at their education, their upbringing, their financial and personal life choices and see where bad choices need to be fixed through education and training creating better opportunities for financial advancement. We have to stop the cycle that poor creates poor. And the narrative that poverty is a systemic issue because of the rich must be put down.
Next, stop vilifying the rich, especially those that have earned it through all the proper means and opportunities through education, training, entrepreneurship, investments, etc. and use them as a model of how to create wealth. Many of the "Rich" are good role models and examples of how to create good wealth that can be sustained from generation to generation.