Why doesn't meat help meat eaters be healthy?

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

Although doctors say that meat is healthy, I do not know anyone who would benefit from meat-eating to be healthy. For example, my neighbor, a meat-eater, has disgusting skin, cellulite, and hardly climbs to the 3rd floor, and she is only 30. Plus she smells like dog.
Maybe she is affected by ptomaine in her intestines? Why can't meat eaters be healthy even though they have a "healthy diet"?

Maybe she's just likes being a disgusting slob.

 

[rupol2000]

Thank you.

I am a meat eater as well. Other than a bit of high blood pressure (runs in my family) I am very healthy. A few extra pounds, but nothing that affects my lifestyle.

When you are surrounded by sick meat-eaters, you always think that you are healthy, because around you everyone looks as sick as you yourself.

 

[WinterBorn]

When you are surrounded by sick meat-eaters, you always think that you are healthy, because around you everyone looks as sick as you yourself.

What nonsense. I have several vegan friends, and they are no more healthy than I am.

There are actual metrics by which physical health can be measured. I am healthy. Just had my blood work done a few weeks ago. My a1c is 5.5, my HDL cholesterol is in the mid-60s, and my LDL is around 70.

Other than mild high blood pressure, which runs in my family, the only physical issue I have is osteo-arthritis in my knees.

 

[rupol2000]

What nonsense. I have several vegan friends, and they are no more healthy than I am.

There are actual metrics by which physical health can be measured. I am healthy. Just had my blood work done a few weeks ago. My a1c is 5.5, my HDL cholesterol is in the mid-60s, and my LDL is around 70.

Other than mild high blood pressure, which runs in my family, the only physical issue I have is osteo-arthritis in my knees.

I don't care about medical fraud tests. When you will have a strong slender body, good athletic performance, when you will not as stupid as you are now, then I will say that you are healthy.

 

[WinterBorn]

I don't care about medical fraud tests. When you will have a strong slender body, good athletic performance, when you will not as stupid as you are now, then I will say that you are healthy.

I'm stupid?

I have been schooling you on American history since you got here. I have rarely seen anyone make statements that plumb the depths of ignorance like you.

I am 62 years old and very fit.

 

[WinterBorn]

I don't care about medical fraud tests.

The test are not medical fraud. It is science. And it is relatively simple science.

 

[Blues Man]

The test are not medical fraud. It is science. And it is relatively simple science.

This guy thinks that high blood sugar is healthy so don;t waste your time with him

 

[WinterBorn]

This guy thinks that high blood sugar is healthy so don;t waste your time with him

Even worse, he think cigarettes are healthy and that heroin is harmless. Opinions to the contrary are just medical fraud.

 

[gtopa1]

I just had an overwhelming craving for Prime Rib with horseradish sauce and a big fat baked potato slobbered with butter and sour cream .

These food discussions always make me hungry.

Yuk; horseradish!!!!

The rest is what I had for dinner on Thursday. (plus some token greens though the Brussel's sprouts were fab!!!!).

Greg

 

[Brick Gold]

Meat provides protein, fats, iron and minerals, various nutrients, fiber and keeps your jaw muscles excersiced. Its natural to eat meat and in humans meat eating came before veggie eating.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

I don't know a single meat eater who suffers the ailments you mention

Youve never been to McDonald's? Even as an observer? You've never paid attention to the average American?

 

[Canon Shooter]

Youve never been to McDonald's? Even as an observer? You've never paid attention to the average American?

Sure I have.

I've never seen someone suffering the ailments the OP listed...

 

[Woodznutz]

Meat provides protein, fats, iron and minerals, various nutrients, fiber and keeps your jaw muscles excersiced. Its natural to eat meat and in humans meat eating came before veggie eating.

Meat is not considered a source of fiber.

 

[Woodznutz]

It's not so much what you eat, but how much you eat, how you eat it, and under what conditions.

 

[Brick Gold]

Meat is not considered a source of fiber.

It takes fiber to make it tough.

 

[Woodznutz]

It takes fiber to make it tough.

Not the same fiber.

 

[FredVegbarfuss]

The health issues are epidemic, specifically in our culture, not to all people, those in nonindustrialized countries don't have this circumstance. They are linked to diet, other factors are minor in comparison. The likelihood without any change from our Standard American Diet of issues to our health is really high. Prevention makes more sense than just changing for maybe reversing the health issue once you have it and the change in eating is recommended to you. I can speak of many other reasons including godly reasons to not use any of the things from animals anymore. But health is not unimportant. I would strongly endorse seeing the documentary Forks Over Knives all the way through. Yet, the book, The Forks Over Knives Plan, is very helpful to make healthy changes we can stick with.

The Forks Over Knives Plan

Alona Pulde, MD, and Matthew Lederman, MD

Americans are sick, tired, and overmedicated. Every fifty-three seconds someone in the United States dies of heart disease, which, as the nation's number one killer, claims about 600,000 lives per year. Cancer, now the second leading cause of death, takes the lives of more than 1500 people per day. Meanwhile, nearly 10 percent of the population has diabetes; and our children are getting sicker, as indicated by the startling fact that obesity has more than doubled in children and tripled in adolescents in the past thirty years. We have turned to the medical system for help, and it has delivered medication in a big way: Nearly 70 percent of Americans are on at least one prescription drug, more than 50 percent take two, and 20 percent are on five or more prescription drugs. Despite the billions of dollars being spent on pharmaceuticals, the needle almost never moves downward on the rates of chronic disease, and the people still feel lousy and sick.

Health statistics aren't just about numbers on a page or data on a statistician's ledger. These are our mothers, fathers, siblings, and children. These are our friends. The health crisis is taking a real toll on our daily lives, profoundly affecting the personal happiness and productivity of millions of us every single day.

There is good news, though. Research is revealing with greater certainty that we understand the main cause of this epidemic: an American diet that derives more than 90 percent of what we eat from animal-based and processed foods. Understanding the cause means there's hope! The research tells us that if we change to an entirely different way of eating, we can dramatically alter our health destiny.

Modern pioneers like T. Colin Cambell, PhD; Caldwell Esselstyn, MD; Dean Ornish, MD; John McDougall, MD; Neal Barnard, MD; and others are leading the charge. Thanks to these doctors and researchers, along with an emerging body of scientific evidence from all corners, we now know that a whole-food, plant-based diet is more powerful at preventing and treating chronic diseases than any medication or procedure. We are so convinced by the evidence that we believe if this diet came in a pill, it would be heralded on the front pages of newspapers and magazines around the world for its effectiveness.

There is a movement under way as hundreds of thousands of people, if not more, are trying the whole-food, plant-based lifestyle for themselves and finding great success. We have personally seen remarkable results in our own medical practice, not to mention experienced it in our own lives. Here are just a few of the significant life-changing results you may expect:

Prevent and reverse the leading chronic ailments. A whole-food, plant-based diet can prevent, halt, and even reverse heart disease and diabetes. Other diseases that are also positively impacted by this type of diet include: high cholesterol, high blood pressure, obesity, and overall mortality. Cancer is also significantly affected by this diet. In fact, the foods that make up this diet are the exact same foods that were recommended in the first "surviving cancer" dietary recommendations. There is also evidence that a plant-based diet may reduce the risk of diverticular disease, gallstones, rheumatoid arthritis, gout, and kidney disease. Furthermore, after switching to a plant-based diet, people routinely report experiencing or seeing in others improvements in a range of ailments, including osteoporosis, arthritis, headaches, acne, asthma, sexual dysfunction, reflux, lupus, inflammatory bowel disease, constipation, irritable bowel syndrome, dementia, Alzheimer's, multiple sclerosis, infertility, insomnia, and sleep apnea. They even find themselves experiencing fewer or less intense colds, viruses, and allergies.

Reach your ideal weight. Our friend Doug Lisle likes to point out that humans and their domesticated pets are the only earthly creatures that suffer from being overweight and obese ... in spite of the fact that we're also the only creatures who practice portion control! Why is this the case? It's simple. All the other animals on earth are eating foods that are appropriate for their species. If we also eat foods that are appropriate for our species -- whole, plant-based foods -- then we, too, will be able to eat without portion control and will naturally reach a comfortable weight.

Improve mental clarity Eating a whole-food, plant-based diet improves cognitive function and protects against dementia and Alzheimer's disease. Most people experience greater clarity of thought, improved ability to concentrate, and better memory.

Experience only positive effects, not "side effects". Perhaps you would choose to transition to a plant-based diet to reverse heart disease or reduce your diabetes medications, but now you could see that you would welcome into your life an abundance of positive effects. These can include better mood, sounder sleep, improved bowel function, and more vibrant skin. You will have more energy to do the things you love, like playing with your children or grandchildren, biking, gardening, walking, swimming. You may even want to exercise more. By contrast, as we'll discuss more, medical procedures and medications can have all sorts of major unintended negative consequences.

Have a sense of well-being and empowerment. You are in control of your health. You do not have to settle for compromised health or believe that you are destined to succumb to chronic disease. You can live with less fear that a heart attack can happen at any time or that you will be struck by the same chronic ailment from which other members of your family have suffered.

Save time and money. Whether you have health insurance or not, you will likely have to pay out of pocket for at least some of your health care expenses if you are sick. Fewer trips to the doctor and fewer procedures and pills equal more time and money you can spend in other areas of your life.

 

[FredVegbarfuss]

What should I think of such a person who laugh reacts to just information I share online? Yeah, there is not much else to think, it is what it is. Information is just that. Some people really don't want that, and will try to dismiss it in the way they can think of doing that.

Truth though still persists. There is the epidemic of heart attacks and strokes from clogged arteries, and high blood pressure, and cancers, and diabetes, and many other health issues, and these are connected with use of animal products, and still, there is real abuse to animals that are bred and slaughtered in the billions every year, environments are being ruined and there is ongoing extinction of many species, while more land, water, and resources are being used, with animal agriculture. It is what it is. Some will still say, but I like having such and such a product, so I will and it's my choice, we always did eat this way, my uncle so and so always ate this way and he was fine and lived to one hundred and ten; as if these statements override all the facts with their own weight. People still get surprised by problems to their health.

 

[gipper]

I don't care about medical fraud tests. When you will have a strong slender body, good athletic performance, when you will not as stupid as you are now, then I will say that you are healthy.

Here’s a good book for you.

 

[Woodznutz]

What should I think of such a person who laugh reacts to just information I share online? Yeah, there is not much else to think, it is what it is. Information is just that. Some people really don't want that, and will try to dismiss it in the way they can think of doing that.

Truth though still persists. There is the epidemic of heart attacks and strokes from clogged arteries, and high blood pressure, and cancers, and diabetes, and many other health issues, and these are connected with use of animal products, and still, there is real abuse to animals that are bred and slaughtered in the billions every year, environments are being ruined and there is ongoing extinction of many species, while more land, water, and resources are being used, with animal agriculture. It is what it is. Some will still say, but I like having such and such a product, so I will and it's my choice, we always did eat this way, my uncle so and so always ate this way and he was fine and lived to one hundred and ten; as if these statements override all the facts with their own weight. People still get surprised by problems to their health.

The problem is overpopulation which puts pressure on all resources. Not only do we need to produce more foods but everything else as well. We sit behind a desk but eat as if we were field hands.