Trump’s “Real ID” Will Be Used to Mandate Vaccinations, “Stop Real ID” Campaign Launched ACTION PAGE HERE

[OldFlame]

"No. REAL ID is a national set of standards, not a national identification card. REAL ID does not create a federal database of driver license information. Each jurisdiction continues to issue its own unique license, maintains its own records, and controls who gets access to those records and under what circumstances. The purpose of REAL ID is to make our identity documents more consistent and secure."

Yep.

Do you really believe that the FEDS won't eventually create one, once the infrastructure is all set up?

I guess you just trust the democrats more than I do.


I remember this, so does Pepperidge farm. . . .

From driver's license to digital dossier? Why some are worried about REAL ID.

With the long-delayed REAL ID deadline now days away, critics warn the law could open the door to expanded government surveillance and data-sharing.

www.usatoday.com

What are the privacy concerns around REAL ID?​

". . . Alexis Hancock, Director of Engineering at the nonprofit Electronic Frontier Foundation, said the program “pushes for regimes that strip privacy from everyone and further marginalize undocumented people.”

“While Real ID-compliant identification will soon be required to enter TSA checkpoints, there is no reason this can’t and won’t expand to include additional ‘official purposes’ with federal entities in the future,” she told USA TODAY in an emailed statement.

Because identifying information is currently stored at the state level, Hancock added that the program’s unified standards could make it “even easier” to transfer sensitive information over state lines, such as when state DMVs have reportedly sold data to third parties.

The American Civil Liberties Union has similarly said the law would facilitate data tracking on individuals if fully implemented. “By definitively turning driver’s licenses into a form of national identity documents, Real ID would have a tremendously destructive impact on privacy,” the organization’s website reads.

Jay Stanley, a senior policy analyst with the American Civil Liberties Union, told USA TODAY that “there have long been privacy concerns about having standardized identity systems.”

We're way past the point of no return regarding a government that could track and/or control your every move should they so desire. I don't see Real ID as any different than all of the other similar technologies that have already been implemented. If you want to avoid risk of your federal tax return being delayed, your 1040 already asks you for your state license information, issuer, number, expiration date, etc.. If you think the feds don't already have all of that info, then you're just fooling yourself. It just seems silly to worry about this particular venture when we're at where we're at.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Sure, but airlines are private

who governs the air lines?....

 

[jc456]

who governs the air lines?....

The owners?

 

[Harry Dresden]

The owners?

come on jc quit acting like you are dumbass....

 

[jc456]

come on jc quit acting like you are dumbass....

You haven’t given me anything. All of the sudden we have to treat airlines like military bases?

 

[Harry Dresden]

You haven’t given me anything. All of the sudden we have to treat airlines like military bases?

who regulates the airlines?....the owners or the FAA?..quit acting like you are clueless....

 

[Sayaras]

I have to eat crow and say the libs were right all along about Trump being a fascist, but just not in the way they think.

Trump’s “Real ID” Will Be Used to Mandate Vaccinations, Stop Real ID Campaign Launched

LINK DIRECT TO ACTION PAGE In 100 short days, by advancing the Stargate massive database centers and Real ID, Trump has shown himself to be the most authoritarian US president in history, just not …

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Trump’s “Real ID” Will Be Used to Mandate Vaccinations, “Stop Real ID” Campaign Launched ACTION PAGE HERE

LINK DIRECT TO ACTION PAGE

In 100 short days, by advancing the Stargate massive database centers and Real ID, Trump has shown himself to be the most authoritarian US president in history, just not in the way that liberals think. Despite his popularity with many conservatives for long-overdue, strict immigration controls, what Trump is doing behind the scenes is far more ominous.

Real ID is the unconstitutional infrastructure for a national facial recognition social control system the likes of which has never been seen before in America. The model it emulates is the social control system in China.

In The Highwire With Del Bigtree, Dr. Robert Scott Bell tells us that holders of Real ID will be forced to submit to the government’s “vaccination” demands in order for their Real ID to remain valid. In “Real ID laws are a back door to adult vaccine mandates across the U.S,” Dr. Eddy Betterman MD writes:

“Dr. Bell explains, under the Real ID Act, the Department of Homeland Security has the power to expand what rules and laws apply to Real ID, without approval or oversight from Congress.

“In other words, we can see an expansion to limiting your ability to travel if you, get this, are not fully vaccinated. Tie this into the Real ID, tie it into the Healthy People 2020 mandates where they’re looking to go in to adult mandates for vaccination,” Dr. Bell contends further.”

The language in the Real ID Act that Dr. Bell refers to is Section 205 of the Real ID Act, which:

“Gives the [DHS] Secretary all authority to issue regulations, set standards, and issue grants under this title.”

The Real ID Act, as it is written, allows for completely arbitrary behavior by the government. It does not limit what the government can require for your Real ID to be valid, or what it can do to you if it is not.

The citizens group Stand for Health Freedom writes:

“The REAL ID has the potential to eventually be used as a vaccine passport”

Multiple state legislatures such as Maine are mounting a continuing resistance to Real ID. On January 25, CBS WGME reported in “Maine lawmaker challenges federal Real ID program with new bill“:

“Multiple state legislators nationwide have presented bills trying to convince President-elect Donald Trump and Congress to end Real ID federal requirements. That push includes a bipartisan group in Maine”

The ACLU of Maine and the Maine Policy Institute support the anti-Real ID bill. The Real ID Act sparked opposition almost as soon as it was passed in 2005, but never implemented until now, with the group The 5-11 Campaign founded in 2008 for the sole purpose of repealing Real ID.

In the below video, former Bush Sr. administration Assistant Secretary of HUD and former investment banker Catherine Austin Fitts and others give an excellent overview on what is at stake with Real ID.

Refuse the National ID Card (Real ID) Campaign​

LINK DIRECT TO ACTION PAGE​

Below: Catherine Austin Fitts: Real ID, Real Enforcement

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Trump Ushering in Communist China-Style “Real ID,” Facial Recognition, Social Credit Scores​

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#StopRealID​

May 01, 2025
Real ID would have done nothing to stop the 9/11 hijackers
Unremarked by media, national identification documents have been declared “abhorrent” by the US Supreme Court. In Aptheker v. Secretary of State, (1964) the U.S. Supreme Court said:

Yet this April, the Trump administration declared that it would begin enforcing the national Real ID for domestic flights, and access to federal buildings.
Former congressman and Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul writes:

Below Twitter post, DHS Secretary Kristi Noem

Why is the Trump administration telling a blatant lie?

The Trump administration insists that Real ID is not a national database of Americans. But the Papers Please Identity Project writes in “How the REAL-ID Act is creating a national ID database”:

Even staid Wikipedia acknowledges:


If different databases are linked together, and work seamlessly in answering queries and moving data, it is a “distributed” central database. Any database expert knows this. Different parts may live in different servers, but it works as one.

Not only is Real ID exactly a national central database, in which each person is assigned a unique number for the computer, the same as in communist China. The 2005 law, that previous administrations have had the good sense to let languish and not enforce, grants the Secretary of DHS the unilateral authority to add on to the requirements – the “standards” – that make a Real ID valid.

This means “vaccination” status or a “social behavior” score might be included, terminology that might be new to Americans, but not to ordinary Chinese, who know it very well.
Section 205 of the Real ID Act:


China “social credit score” system based on national ID ranks and punishes citizens without due process



That means if a “dictator” like, for example Trump if these are your political leanings, finds, through your facial recognition scan, that you were at an anti-Israel protest, or an anti-DOGE protest, you could get a black mark added to the proper field in your Real ID profile.

That could mean no air travel for you, or no gas this month, or no gun purchases. The law leaves room for completely arbitrary behavior by the government. The Real ID Act of 2005 does not limit what the government can require for you to have a valid ID, or what it can do to you if you don’t.

Come to think of it, that is exactly what they do in China. There is very little protesting the government in China. Or protesting that the tiniest fraction of the population lives like royalty, while everyone else starves on dog meat.

They also get carted off to quarantine camps by the thousands if the government says there was a new case of Covid on the block. Two of digital ID’s biggest cheerleaders, Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab, say to this day that China is a splendid example of how to deal with “health emergencies” like Covid.
Shanghai, China, April 4, 2022 after 7 days of unopposable lockdown, residents not allowed to leave apartments



National Real ID Treats Only Americans as Suspects, not Foreign Tourists or International Students
But the real kicker about Real ID, and there are many, is that it can be stone-cold proven that it has nothing to do with safety. DHS has confirmed that non-Americans, such a 5 million international tourists a year and about 1 million international students, will not need it. They will be able to travel around free as jaybirds with only their paper passports, and not worry that every movement is now being tracked and stored in a monster database somewhere for the use of future tyrants.

Business Standard reports:

Demolishing the idea that Real ID is about safety is the fact that it would do not one iota to stop the 9/11 hijackers from boarding their planes today, which they did with ordinary passports, and which Real ID still allows. This is nothing against foreign nationals. It simply proves that any argument that national Real ID is about security has a hole in it you could drive a Mack truck through.
This is not about security. This is about you.

In 2022, thousands of Canadian truckers got the attention of the world by coming out in force against Justin Trudeau’s Covid “vaccine” mandates, and stopped the spread of vaccine passports around the world in its tracks. It was one of the most awesome displays of People Power witnessed in modern times, maybe ever..

With Real ID, soon linked to facial recognition and even DNA “profiles,” as well as someday becoming a single point for all financial transactions, the elites are ensuring that this can never happen again.


Facial Recognition is Already Built in to the National Real ID Infrastructure
It is inevitable that national Real ID will eventually include high-resolution, facial recognition scans, so detailed that you can be identified on the street in real time by street cameras. The software infrastructure for this has already built into the national Real ID standards.

The Papers Please Identity Project writes:

National Real ID is Unconstitutional...
REST OF ARTICLE>>>> Trump’s “Real ID” Will Be Used to Mandate Vaccinations, “Stop Real ID” Campaign Launched ACTION PAGE HERE

Isn't it an old decision from 2005?

 

[Sayaras]

Jasmine Crockett will save them.

Crockett.

 

[jc456]

who regulates the airlines?....the owners or the FAA?..quit acting like you are clueless....

I have a passport. I have given the tsa my information years ago. What’s the purpose?

 

[Harry Dresden]

I have a passport. I have given the tsa my information years ago. What’s the purpose?

then use your fucking passport...quit acting like a democrat....

 

[sparky]

Educate yourself. Real ID act of 2005 was passed with a bipartisan majority of 261. Try again. MAGA

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H.R. 418 (109th): REAL ID Act of 2005​

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then the article is misleading due to this>>>>>

“Dr. Bell explains, under the Real ID Act, the Department of Homeland Security has the power to expand what rules and laws apply to Real ID, without approval or oversight from Congress.

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[MisterBeale]

then the article is misleading due to this>>>>>

“Dr. Bell explains, under the Real ID Act, the Department of Homeland Security has the power to expand what rules and laws apply to Real ID, without approval or oversight from Congress.

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I'm not sure I understand, how is that misleading?

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https://www.congress.gov/bill/109th-congress/house-bill/418/text

 

[sparky]

I'm not sure I understand, how is that misleading?

I'm confused Mr B. , we're informed (via CA) this was voted on by Congress decades ago, yet the passage i posted (from the OP link) declares Congress powerless, homeland security in charge??? ~S~

 

[MisterBeale]

I'm confused Mr B. , we're informed (via CA) this was voted on by Congress decades ago, yet the passage i posted (from the OP link) declares Congress powerless, homeland security in charge??? ~S~

Agreed.

I think there is a difference between when a law is passed, and when it is enforced by which administration.

The law was passed long ago, as an unfunded mandate.

It is now being enforced by this administration by prohibiting folks that don't have it from entering a federal building or flying, either national or international flights.

In effect, it acts as an internal passport for anyone that travels by air.

REAL ID Is Finally Here. What Took States So Long?

All states are in compliance with federal REAL ID regulations as the implementation date looms this week, 20 years after Congress passed the mandate. But uptake among residents varies.

www.governing.com

". . . Why did it take 20 years to put a little star in the upper-right-hand corner of a driver’s license? Turns out there were lots of reasons, from early delays in the regulatory process to political resistance from individuals and states to global disruptions like the COVID-19 pandemic. REAL ID was a controversial proposal from the very beginning, with concerns about privacy and complaints about an unfunded mandate from the federal government. It’s taken states a lot of work — and a string of federal deadline extensions — to come into compliance.

There are still pockets of resistance to the law and questions about exactly what enforcement will look like, with a loosely defined “phased enforcement” period beginning this month. But all 50 states and the District of Columbia are now issuing REAL IDs, and many DMVs are holding extended hours or offering appointments to manage an anticipated surge in applicants before and after the implementation date. . . "

Yes, the States Really Reject Real ID | ACLU

www.aclu.org

March 27, 2012
". . . If you've been fishing in your pocket trying to find your national ID card, stop. Twenty-five states, either through statute or legislative resolution, rejected the act or said they would not comply with Real ID, and 15 states have laws prohibiting compliance with Real ID. Since the federal government's only recourse under the statute would be to bar citizens of those states from using their drivers' licenses to enter federal buildings or board airplanes, which would bring air travel to a grinding halt, Real ID implementation has been delayed and delayed and delayed and delayed. In fact, the Department of Homeland Security, in whose jurisdiction Real ID falls, only has four full-time staffers working on its implementation. Not really an effective way to make it happen. . . "

States Should Reject the REAL ID Law​

May 11, 2015


The video in the OP was terrific IMO.

I would hear what Edward Snowden's take on this is. It would seem to make data mining and hacking of folks easier, but I am no expert.

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[MisterBeale]

I did find out that vaccine status is NOT covered by HIPPA rules, in regards to employers and the government. It only applies to sharing information between entities which HIPPA rules apply to. HIPPA is not a law that applies to the government administrations or employers, so, I don't really think this thread is a conspiracy.

We have seen the language in the law, it clearly states the enforcement of the REAL ID act is up to the administration.

". . all authority to issue regulations, set standards, and issue grants under this title shall be carried out by the Secretary. . "

If states want to continue getting grants from the FEDS, they could be forced to make this a Vaccine ID card as well.

HIPAA does not apply to revealing COVID-19 vaccine status at work, HHS says

The HHS and OCR released guidance on Thursday which further clarified and confirmed that the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA) Privacy Rule does not apply to employers or employment records.

www.fox13news.com

Is it a HIPAA Violation to Ask for Proof of Vaccine Status?

According to several media sources, there appears to be a degree of confusion about the purpose of HIPAA and HIPAA compliance, who it applies to, and Can an employer ask an employee for proof of vaccine status or would that be in violation of HIPAA? Find out when asking about vaccine status is a...

www.hipaajournal.com

I doubt such a thing would happen during a Trump administration, especially with RFKjr. as head of the HHS, but. . .


. . . it appears to be a very easy change for any future administration.

 

[OldFlame]

I did find out that vaccine status is NOT covered by HIPPA rules, in regards to employers and the government. It only applies to sharing information between entities which HIPPA rules apply to. HIPPA is not a law that applies to the government administrations or employers, so, I don't really think this thread is a conspiracy.

We have seen the language in the law, it clearly states the enforcement of the REAL ID act is up to the administration.

". . all authority to issue regulations, set standards, and issue grants under this title shall be carried out by the Secretary. . "

If states want to continue getting grants from the FEDS, they could be forced to make this a Vaccine ID card as well.

HIPAA does not apply to revealing COVID-19 vaccine status at work, HHS says

The HHS and OCR released guidance on Thursday which further clarified and confirmed that the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA) Privacy Rule does not apply to employers or employment records.

www.fox13news.com

Is it a HIPAA Violation to Ask for Proof of Vaccine Status?

According to several media sources, there appears to be a degree of confusion about the purpose of HIPAA and HIPAA compliance, who it applies to, and Can an employer ask an employee for proof of vaccine status or would that be in violation of HIPAA? Find out when asking about vaccine status is a...

www.hipaajournal.com

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I doubt such a thing would happen during a Trump administration, especially with RFKjr. as head of the HHS, but. . .


. . . it appears to be a very easy change for any future administration.

Same could be said about your current state issued ID, no one has shown how Real ID is any different.

 

[MisterBeale]

Same could be said about your current state issued ID, no one has shown how Real ID is any different.

How do you know this?

I would need to look into fifty separate laws regarding various state IDs, to see if the various Sec. of State can issue rules and regulations without input from their various legislatures.

OTH, making a national ID whose rules and regs are solely determined by the Sec. of Transport that is currently in charge of enforcement, is right there in the language of the law.

 

[OldFlame]

How do you know this?

I would need to look into fifty separate laws regarding various state IDs, to see if the various Sec. of State can issue rules and regulations without input from their various legislatures.

OTH, making a national ID whose rules and regs are solely determined by the Sec. of Transport that is currently in charge of enforcement, is right there in the language of the law.

If you're saying the states can be manipulated by the feds regarding Real ID, then they can be manipulated regarding their current id's as well. Real ID is still a state issued ID that's following stricter federal security standards.

 

[jc456]

then use your fucking passport...quit acting like a democrat....

Why are you for this? Ain't you a conservative? We are for less government. yes?

 

[jc456]

How do you know this?

I would need to look into fifty separate laws regarding various state IDs, to see if the various Sec. of State can issue rules and regulations without input from their various legislatures.

OTH, making a national ID whose rules and regs are solely determined by the Sec. of Transport that is currently in charge of enforcement, is right there in the language of the law.

Like the Department of Education? Why are you for elimination of that? Why do we need a national Transport? I don't want more government. The first thing that hasn't been explained is the need for this shit.