Why does israel get a free pass when it comes to apartheid?

[Victory67]

Taking each point in turn

You answer this one yourself when you put except where such destruction is rendered absolutely necessary by military operations in as every destruction of property is for military operations. Unless you can prove beyond reasonable doubt they aren't.

Again in full compliance with the Geneva conventions and you cant prove beyond reasonable doubt that they aren't.


So do show were Israel has breached the Geneva conventions by producing itemised detailed instances of such breaches. Your word or the word of NGO's is biased so not acceptable under the circumstances.

Israel has routinely confiscated Arab land, kicked out the Arabs, destroyed the Arab's housing, and let Jewish settlers move in and create new housing.

 

[Victory67]

Whereas Phoenal agrees that the WB is covered by the 4th Geneva Convention I do not as Article 2 states that the "4th GC only applies to two or more high contradicting parties" which is not the case because the international community never recognized Jordan's annexation of Judea and Samaria.

Jordan is a High Contracting Party.

Palestine is a High Contracting Party.

Jordan was the legal Occupying Power of the West Bank, and in 1984 they handed over all negotiating rights to the PLO, which at the time was recognized by the UN.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Whereas Phoenal agrees that the WB is covered by the 4th Geneva Convention I do not as Article 2 states that the "4th GC only applies to two or more high contradicting parties" which is not the case because the international community never recognized Jordan's annexation of Judea and Samaria.

Jordan is a High Contracting Party.

Palestine is a High Contracting Party.

Jordan was the legal Occupying Power of the West Bank, and in 1984 they handed over all negotiating rights to the PLO, which at the time was recognized by the UN.

Jordan have no right occupying the area known as the West Bank for 19 years and it's occupation was not recognized in international law.

 

[Victory67]

Jordan have no right occupying the area known as the West Bank for 19 years and it's occupation was not recognized in international law.

Sorry Sweety, but Jordan was the legal Occupying Power of the West Bank from 1949 to 1967. Their Occupation was legal but their annexation was not.

Just as Israel's Occupation of the West Bank today is legal.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Jordan have no right occupying the area known as the West Bank for 19 years and it's occupation was not recognized in international law.

Sorry Sweety, but Jordan was the legal Occupying Power of the West Bank from 1949 to 1967. Their Occupation was legal but their annexation was not.

Just as Israel's Occupation of the West Bank today is legal.

Aha, so you are saying that Israel's occupation of the WB is legal. Thank you.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Because you use biased sources that support your POV, you never use unbiased sources because they never support your POV.

Oh, you say that about everybody who does not suck up to Israel's lies.

False, you are the one who says that about everybody who doesn't suck up to Palestinian propaganda lies

If they something that can be refuted I do.

You don't do that. You just blow it off as propaganda and don't even look at it. If you can refute anything she said in that interview, please do.

 

[Victory67]

Aha, so you are saying that Israel's occupation of the WB is legal. Thank you.

Of course the military Occupation is legal. Just as Jordan's military Occupation was legal.

I have never said otherwise. What is illegal is annexation of Occupied Territory. Jordan was guilty of this and now Israel is guilty of this.

But Israel is also guilt of committing more war crimes than Jordan, as they have confiscated private land in the West Bank and used it to settle civilians which violates the 4th GC.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Aha, so you are saying that Israel's occupation of the WB is legal. Thank you.

Of course the military Occupation is legal. Just as Jordan's military Occupation was legal.

I have never said otherwise. What is illegal is annexation of Occupied Territory. Jordan was guilty of this and now Israel is guilty of this.

But Israel is also guilt of committing more war crimes than Jordan, as they have confiscated private land in the West Bank and used it to settle civilians which violates the 4th GC.

And again for reasons I have given you as Jordan's annexation of Judea and Samaria was not recognized, therefore Israel is fully entitled to settle civilians there. That is land gained in a war of defense as Jordan attacked Israel and Israel won. Israel was victorious in 1967! Israel did not forcibly move its population into the area.

 

[Victory67]

And again for reasons I have given you as Jordan's annexation of Judea and Samaria was not recognized, therefore Israel is fully entitled to settle civilians there. That is land gained in a war of defense as Jordan attacked Israel and Israel won. Israel was victorious in 1967! Israel did not forcibly move its population into the area.

Jordan's annexation of the West Bank was illegal but their military Occupation was perfectly legal. Just as Israel's military Occupation is legal but their annexation of "East Jerusalem" was illegal.

33% of Israeli settlements are built on stolen land. This percentage is much greater for the larger settlements like Ariel and Maale Adumim. All settlements built on stolen private land are illegal.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

And again for reasons I have given you as Jordan's annexation of Judea and Samaria was not recognized, therefore Israel is fully entitled to settle civilians there. That is land gained in a war of defense as Jordan attacked Israel and Israel won. Israel was victorious in 1967! Israel did not forcibly move its population into the area.

Jordan's annexation of the West Bank was illegal but their military Occupation was perfectly legal. Just as Israel's military Occupation is legal but their annexation of "East Jerusalem" was illegal.

33% of Israeli settlements are built on stolen land. This percentage is much greater for the larger settlements like Ariel and Maale Adumim. All settlements built on stolen private land are illegal.

Do you have proof of that?

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Aha, so you are saying that Israel's occupation of the WB is legal. Thank you.

Of course the military Occupation is legal. Just as Jordan's military Occupation was legal.

I have never said otherwise. What is illegal is annexation of Occupied Territory. Jordan was guilty of this and now Israel is guilty of this.

But Israel is also guilt of committing more war crimes than Jordan, as they have confiscated private land in the West Bank and used it to settle civilians which violates the 4th GC.

Are you talking about all of Jerusalem and the Golan? Because Israel never annexed the West Bank.

 

[Indeependent]

And again for reasons I have given you as Jordan's annexation of Judea and Samaria was not recognized, therefore Israel is fully entitled to settle civilians there. That is land gained in a war of defense as Jordan attacked Israel and Israel won. Israel was victorious in 1967! Israel did not forcibly move its population into the area.

Jordan's annexation of the West Bank was illegal but their military Occupation was perfectly legal. Just as Israel's military Occupation is legal but their annexation of "East Jerusalem" was illegal.

33% of Israeli settlements are built on stolen land. This percentage is much greater for the larger settlements like Ariel and Maale Adumim. All settlements built on stolen private land are illegal.

Stealing land used as terrorist bomb factories...interesting.
The towns in which the bomb factories were would not have been converted into Israeli settlements if the West Bank Jordanians would have built these factories far away from the citizens homes.
But we all know what pussies the Arabs are.

 

[Victory67]

Do you have proof of that?

Peace Now performed a thorough and comprehensive analysis of all the settlements.

They found that around 33% of all settlements are built on stolen land and a similar percentage of all the land itself is stolen.

However, they found that Maale Adumim is 87% private land.

http://peacenow.org.il/eng/sites/default/files/Breaking_The_Law_formal data_March07Eng.pdf

The funny thing is, right after Peace Now published this report, Israel changed the info to instead say this was State land and not private land, without providing any information on how this land was purchased from the original owners so quickly and converted to State land.

 

[Victory67]

Are you talking about all of Jerusalem and the Golan? Because Israel never annexed the West Bank.

Israel annexed part of the West Bank and called it "East Jerusalem".

This is illegal under international law. Just as it was illegal when Jordan annexed the whole West Bank.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Do you have proof of that?

Peace Now performed a thorough and comprehensive analysis of all the settlements.

They found that around 33% of all settlements are built on stolen land and a similar percentage of all the land itself is stolen.

However, they found that Maale Adumim is 87% private land.

http://peacenow.org.il/eng/sites/default/files/Breaking_The_Law_formal data_March07Eng.pdf

The funny thing is, right after Peace Now published this report, Israel changed the info to instead say this was State land and not private land, without providing any information on how this land was purchased from the original owners so quickly and converted to State land.

When my family wanted to purchase property in Israel, I wanted it to be in Jerusalem, but they refused. Jerusalem was too expensive, they said. So instead they bought apartments in Maale Adumim.

 

[Indeependent]

Do you have proof of that?

Peace Now performed a thorough and comprehensive analysis of all the settlements.

They found that around 33% of all settlements are built on stolen land and a similar percentage of all the land itself is stolen.

However, they found that Maale Adumim is 87% private land.

http://peacenow.org.il/eng/sites/default/files/Breaking_The_Law_formal data_March07Eng.pdf

The funny thing is, right after Peace Now published this report, Israel changed the info to instead say this was State land and not private land, without providing any information on how this land was purchased from the original owners so quickly and converted to State land.

Peace Now...real objective.
They're the Jews who come to America and wear crosses.

 

[Victory67]

When my family wanted to purchase property in Israel, I wanted it to be in Jerusalem, but they refused. Jerusalem was too expensive, they said. So instead they bought apartments in Maale Adumim.

Did they buy land from an Arab land owner or a Jewish land owner who owned the land prior to 1948?

 

[Indeependent]

Do you have proof of that?

Peace Now performed a thorough and comprehensive analysis of all the settlements.

They found that around 33% of all settlements are built on stolen land and a similar percentage of all the land itself is stolen.

However, they found that Maale Adumim is 87% private land.

http://peacenow.org.il/eng/sites/default/files/Breaking_The_Law_formal data_March07Eng.pdf

The funny thing is, right after Peace Now published this report, Israel changed the info to instead say this was State land and not private land, without providing any information on how this land was purchased from the original owners so quickly and converted to State land.

When my family wanted to purchase property in Israel, I wanted it to be in Jerusalem, but they refused. Jerusalem was too expensive, they said. So instead they bought apartments in Maale Adumim.

Most young couples from the US move to settlements because it's the only place they can afford.

 

[Indeependent]

When my family wanted to purchase property in Israel, I wanted it to be in Jerusalem, but they refused. Jerusalem was too expensive, they said. So instead they bought apartments in Maale Adumim.

Did they buy land from an Arab land owner or a Jewish land owner who owned the land prior to 1948?

They buy land from the people protected by the military that keeps winning.

 

[Victory67]

Peace Now...real objective.
They're the Jews who come to America and wear crosses.

Like a Holocaust denier you ask for evidence but then disregard all evidence provided if it counters your pre-conceived notions of truth.

This is why Israel gets a free pass with Apartheid. Its defenders refuse to accept that Israel can do wrong.