Why does israel get a free pass when it comes to apartheid?

[Phoenall]

Of course, never in your mind would you think that people can back Israel regardless of what religion they are. Meanwhile, out of curiosity, are you on any of the other forums telling about what is occurring in the rest of the Middle East? After all, Israel is but one small country, and there certainly are other countries in the Middle East where things are happening, such as people killing other because of their religious beliefs. By the way, getting back to the bit about Israel expelling those Africans, have you or any of your fellow travelers ever made a comment about the Egyptian Army shooting some of these Africans in the back as they were trying to get into Israel, or did you ever mention that in the Sinai some of those hoping to get to Israel have been held for ransom and/or tortured by Arabs. If so, why not? As an aside to the readers, even Hindu posters would say "God Bless Israel." Were these Hindus brainwashed? There are even Muslims who support Israel.

I will eventually become bored with the Israel Palestine issue and move on to other topics.

But until that happens I shall remain focused on Israel's misdeeds in the West Bank and their system of Apartheid.

What system of apartheid would that be, evidence of this is required. Just as evidence of their misdeeds in the west bank that are not allowed under the terms of the Geneva conventions.

Lies of this nature are akin to the RACIST JEW HATRED as practised by Hitlers NAZIS during the 1930's and 1940's. In fact they could be almost word for word racist attacks from the nazis

 

[jillian]

You know, I look on the news, and they call mandela a hero for opposing apartheid in south africa. But the same ones calling mandela a hero for opposing apartheid seem to vigorously defend israel for imposing apartheid on palestinians.

Why so much hypocrisy when it comes to israel? Is israel the last nation on earth that gets a free pass for having a racist regime?

there are no citizens of israel who can't vote.

every type of israeli citizen is represented in the government.

it is not an apartheid state.

thanks for yet another propaganda-filled screed.

 

[Phoenall]

Naturally over 100,000 people killed in Syria, God only knows how many are wounded, and millions of refugees don't interest you at all. Very good, but no doubt you aren't interested in how minorities are treated in Muslim countries. Why should you be since it doesn't involve the Jews.

When you and others falsely accuse people of anti-Semitism simply because they disagree with you, you do a great disservice to legitimate victims of anti-Semitism.

No we accuse you of open anti Semitism when you spout your hatred and lies regarding Israel and the Jews. When you falsely accuse them of ignoring International Law and the Geneva conventions and of practising apartheid in Israel. When asked to produce your evidence you spout a lot of hatred from the Nazi sites to cover up your LIES

 

[Phoenall]

Israel system of segregated settlements, roads, schools, towns, discriminatory land confiscation policies, double standard in regards to illegal housing construction, all amount to a system of national and ethnic Apartheid.

It is not identical to South Africa's former system of Apartheid but "Apartheid" is the best term to describe it.

So this is happening inside Israel's borders is it, or is it happening in the occupied territory and done in full compliance with International law and the Geneva conventions.

If the later then you are spouting NAZI ANTI SEMITIC JEW HATRED learnt from some hate site, and you are not concerned with the truth because it would mean you would have to admit your racism.

 

[Phoenall]

Oh, Victory, you are a hoot. Don't you think that most of the readers are smart enough to see right through you. With so much going on not only in the Middle East but also in Africa and Southeast Asia, and you want to focus on one small country tells an awful lot about you.

I see you would prefer I lend a blind eye and a deaf ear to Israel's misdeeds.

Not going to happen. Not in this lifetime at least.

Yet you are prepared to do just that when it comes to the Palestinians breaches of International Law and the Geneva conventions along with their war crimes and crimes against humanity. WHY IS THIS ?

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Oh, Victory, you are a hoot. Don't you think that most of the readers are smart enough to see right through you. With so much going on not only in the Middle East but also in Africa and Southeast Asia, and you want to focus on one small country tells an awful lot about you.

I see you would prefer I lend a blind eye and a deaf ear to Israel's misdeeds.

Not going to happen. Not in this lifetime at least.

Yet you are prepared to do just that when it comes to the Palestinians breaches of International Law and the Geneva conventions along with their war crimes and crimes against humanity. WHY IS THIS ?

Because he is a ******* antisemite, that's why.

 

[Phoenall]

Victory67, et al,

So!

But until that happens I shall remain focused on Israel's misdeeds in the West Bank and their system of Apartheid.

(QUESTION)

What are the specific allegations?

(OBSERVATION)

Article 7
Crimes against humanity

(h) "The crime of apartheid" means inhumane acts of a character similar to those
referred to in paragraph 1, committed in the context of an institutionalized
regime of systematic oppression and domination by one racial group over any
other racial group or groups and committed with the intention of maintaining
that regime;

(QUESTIONs)

• What institutionalized regime do you allege?
• What at the two racial groups?

Most Respectfully,
R

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w56AP_cjDYw]Rafeef, Ben and Mbuyiseni on Israeli Apartheid Week - 22.2.12 - YouTube[/ame]

If it is happening outside of Israel's borders then it is not apartheid is it, it is full compliance with International law and the Geneva conventions

ARTICLE 27

However, the Parties to the conflict may take such measures of control and security in regard to protected persons as may be necessary as a result of the war.

ARTICLE 28

The presence of a protected person may not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations.

ARTICLE 41

Should the Power in whose hands protected persons may be consider the measures of control mentioned in the present Convention to be inadequate, it may not have recourse to any other measure of control more severe than that of assigned residence or internment, in accordance with the provisions of Articles 42 [ Link ] and 43 [ Link ] .
In applying the provisions of Article 39, second paragraph [ Link ] , to the cases of persons required to leave their usual places of residence by virtue of a decision placing them in assigned residence elsewhere, the Detaining Power shall be guided as closely as possible by the standards of welfare set forth in Part III, Section IV of this Convention.

ARTICLE 42

The internment or placing in assigned residence of protected persons may be ordered only if the security of the Detaining Power makes it absolutely necessary.
If any person, acting through the representatives of the Protecting Power, voluntarily demands internment and if his situation renders this step necessary, he shall be interned by the Power in whose hands he may be.

ARTICLE 44

In applying the measures of control mentioned in the present Convention, the Detaining Power shall not treat as enemy aliens exclusively on the basis of their nationality nationality ' de jure ' of an enemy State, refugees who do not, in fact, enjoy the protection of any government.

ARTICLE 46

In so far as they have not been previously withdrawn, restrictive measures taken regarding protected persons shall be cancelled as soon as possible after the close of hostilities.
Restrictive measures affecting their property shall be cancelled, in accordance with the law of the Detaining Power, as soon as possible after the close of hostilities.

ARTICLE 53

Any destruction by the Occupying Power of real or personal property belonging individually or collectively to private persons, or to the State, or to other public authorities, or to social or cooperative organizations, is prohibited, except where such destruction is rendered absolutely necessary by military operations.

ARTICLE 64

The penal laws of the occupied territory shall remain in force, with the exception that they may be repealed or suspended by the Occupying Power in cases where they constitute a threat to its security or an obstacle to the application of the present Convention. Subject to the latter consideration and to the necessity for ensuring the effective administration of justice, the tribunals of the occupied territory shall continue to function in respect of all offences covered by the said laws.
The Occupying Power may, however, subject the population of the occupied territory to provisions which are essential to enable the Occupying Power to fulfil its obligations under the present Convention, to maintain the orderly government of the territory, and to ensure the security of the Occupying Power, of the members and property of the occupying forces or administration, and likewise of the establishments and lines of communication used by them

ARTICLE 68

The penal provisions promulgated by the Occupying Power in accordance with Articles 64 [ Link ] and 65 [ Link ] may impose the death penalty on a protected person only in cases where the person is guilty of espionage, of serious acts of sabotage against the military installations of the Occupying Power or of intentional offences which have caused the death of one or more persons, provided that such offences were punishable by death under the law of the occupied territory in force before the occupation began.


ARTICLE 78

If the Occupying Power considers it necessary, for imperative reasons of security, to take safety measures concerning protected persons, it may, at the most, subject them to assigned residence or to internment.


This about covers the actions of Israel in the west bank and shows that they are in full compliance with the relevant parts of the Geneva conventions.

 

[Phoenall]

Rafeef, Ben and Mbuyiseni on Israeli Apartheid Week - 22.2.12 - YouTube

Ah, your usual copy paste youtube videos.

Are you not capable of answering the questions yourself ??

It doesn't matter what I post. You don't believe it anyway.

Its not a case of not believing it, it is a case of it not providing any evidence of your false accusations.

 

[Phoenall]

It doesn't matter what I post. You don't believe it anyway.

Not true. There were many incidents where I believed what you said.

The same can be said for you too, however.

Sure, you always question what I say and when I provide links you blow them off.

Because you use biased sources that support your POV, you never use unbiased sources because they never support your POV.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Not true. There were many incidents where I believed what you said.

The same can be said for you too, however.

Sure, you always question what I say and when I provide links you blow them off.

Because you use biased sources that support your POV, you never use unbiased sources because they never support your POV.

Oh, you say that about everybody who does not suck up to Israel's lies.

 

[Phoenall]

Israel claims borders on land that it has never legally acquired. You failed to provide proof that Israel did legally acquire that land.

Israel won? You posted a Wikipedia and I refuted it with actual legal documents.

So yes, I don't agree with you on those issues.

Another lie. It is not Israel who CLAIMS these borders. Learn how to read:

Peace Treaty between Israel and Egypt - Non-UN document (26 March 1979)

The permanent boundary between Egypt and Israel in the recognized international boundary between Egypt and the former mandated territory of Palestine, as shown on the map at Annex II - See more at: Peace Treaty between Israel and Egypt - Non-UN document (26 March 1979)

A/50/73-S/1995/83 of 27 January 1995

The international boundary between Israel and Jordan is delimited with reference to the boundary definition under the Mandate as is shown in Annex I(a), on the mapping materials attached thereto and co-ordinates specified therein.

Your statement that Israel claims these borders is a MASSIVE lie.
And what does Israel aqcuiring land have to do with anything??? That stupid claim has been flushed down the toilet so many times. However, thanks for proving that Israel DOES have land. If they didn't, how could they have international borders??

You see Tinmore, this is exactly what I'm talking about. You are trying to argue things that are not up for debate. Your constant denial makes you look very immature.
Israel has intrnational borders with Egypt and Jordan, regardless of what you say. You cannot refute those links.


Israel Map - Israel Satellite Image - Physical - Political

I even have a map with those INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED BOUNDARIES

Of course none of that addresses the question of Israel legally acquiring that land.

Political recognition does not prove legality.

What does is Israel and Egypt sitting down and negotiating a peace deal that included the terms and conditions set out in UN resolution 242. Those were mutually agreed borders with return of land occupied during the 6 days war. It also included such land swaps as both sides thought reasonable and fair. That is the basis for the LEGAL acquiescence of the land by Israel. The same as the deal done with Jordan that does exactly the same thing. If you have a problem with those two peace treaties and land swaps then take it up with the UN and the International Criminal Court.

 

[Victory67]

If it is happening outside of Israel's borders then it is not apartheid is it, it is full compliance with International law and the Geneva conventions

ARTICLE 27

However, the Parties to the conflict may take such measures of control and security in regard to protected persons as may be necessary as a result of the war.

ARTICLE 28

The presence of a protected person may not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations.

ARTICLE 41

Should the Power in whose hands protected persons may be consider the measures of control mentioned in the present Convention to be inadequate, it may not have recourse to any other measure of control more severe than that of assigned residence or internment, in accordance with the provisions of Articles 42 [ Link ] and 43 [ Link ] .
In applying the provisions of Article 39, second paragraph [ Link ] , to the cases of persons required to leave their usual places of residence by virtue of a decision placing them in assigned residence elsewhere, the Detaining Power shall be guided as closely as possible by the standards of welfare set forth in Part III, Section IV of this Convention.

ARTICLE 42

The internment or placing in assigned residence of protected persons may be ordered only if the security of the Detaining Power makes it absolutely necessary.
If any person, acting through the representatives of the Protecting Power, voluntarily demands internment and if his situation renders this step necessary, he shall be interned by the Power in whose hands he may be.

ARTICLE 44

In applying the measures of control mentioned in the present Convention, the Detaining Power shall not treat as enemy aliens exclusively on the basis of their nationality nationality ' de jure ' of an enemy State, refugees who do not, in fact, enjoy the protection of any government.

ARTICLE 46

In so far as they have not been previously withdrawn, restrictive measures taken regarding protected persons shall be cancelled as soon as possible after the close of hostilities.
Restrictive measures affecting their property shall be cancelled, in accordance with the law of the Detaining Power, as soon as possible after the close of hostilities.

ARTICLE 53

Any destruction by the Occupying Power of real or personal property belonging individually or collectively to private persons, or to the State, or to other public authorities, or to social or cooperative organizations, is prohibited, except where such destruction is rendered absolutely necessary by military operations.

ARTICLE 64

The penal laws of the occupied territory shall remain in force, with the exception that they may be repealed or suspended by the Occupying Power in cases where they constitute a threat to its security or an obstacle to the application of the present Convention. Subject to the latter consideration and to the necessity for ensuring the effective administration of justice, the tribunals of the occupied territory shall continue to function in respect of all offences covered by the said laws.
The Occupying Power may, however, subject the population of the occupied territory to provisions which are essential to enable the Occupying Power to fulfil its obligations under the present Convention, to maintain the orderly government of the territory, and to ensure the security of the Occupying Power, of the members and property of the occupying forces or administration, and likewise of the establishments and lines of communication used by them

ARTICLE 68

The penal provisions promulgated by the Occupying Power in accordance with Articles 64 [ Link ] and 65 [ Link ] may impose the death penalty on a protected person only in cases where the person is guilty of espionage, of serious acts of sabotage against the military installations of the Occupying Power or of intentional offences which have caused the death of one or more persons, provided that such offences were punishable by death under the law of the occupied territory in force before the occupation began.


ARTICLE 78

If the Occupying Power considers it necessary, for imperative reasons of security, to take safety measures concerning protected persons, it may, at the most, subject them to assigned residence or to internment.


This about covers the actions of Israel in the west bank and shows that they are in full compliance with the relevant parts of the Geneva conventions.

Thank you for finally acknowledging that the West Bank is covered by the 4th Geneva Conventions. [MENTION=44172]Sweet_Caroline[/MENTION]

Israel is in violation of the following regulations of the 4th GC, in reference to Occupied Territories.

"Art. 53. Any destruction by the Occupying Power of real or personal property belonging individually or collectively to private persons, or to the State, or to other public authorities, or to social or cooperative organizations, is prohibited, except where such destruction is rendered absolutely necessary by military operations.

Art. 33. No protected person may be punished for an offence he or she has not personally committed. Collective penalties and likewise all measures of intimidation or of terrorism are prohibited.

Nevertheless, the Occupying Power may undertake total or partial evacuation of a given area if the security of the population or imperative military reasons so demand. Such evacuations may not involve the displacement of protected persons outside the bounds of the occupied territory except when for material reasons it is impossible to avoid such displacement. Persons thus evacuated shall be transferred back to their homes as soon as hostilities in the area in question have ceased.

The Occupying Power undertaking such transfers or evacuations shall ensure, to the greatest practicable extent, that proper accommodation is provided to receive the protected persons, that the removals are effected in satisfactory conditions of hygiene, health, safety and nutrition, and that members of the same family are not separated."

 

[Phoenall]

Sure, you always question what I say and when I provide links you blow them off.

Because you use biased sources that support your POV, you never use unbiased sources because they never support your POV.

Oh, you say that about everybody who does not suck up to Israel's lies.

Then you will have no problem in producing these lies from a reputable unbiased source, like the CIRC or the UN.

 

[Victory67]

No we accuse you of open anti Semitism when you spout your hatred and lies regarding Israel and the Jews. When you falsely accuse them of ignoring International Law and the Geneva conventions and of practising apartheid in Israel. When asked to produce your evidence you spout a lot of hatred from the Nazi sites to cover up your LIES

I would never cite information from a Neo-Nazi or White Supremacist website. Such an act would be disgusting and well below my moral minimum.

Now stop talking about me and get back to the issue of Israel's Apartheid-like system.

 

[Victory67]

In what way has it done so, remember that Israel has the right to defend its citizens living on land they owned pre 1948. As you yourself claim 66% of the land settled is Jewish

I have made no such claim.

 

[Phoenall]

If it is happening outside of Israel's borders then it is not apartheid is it, it is full compliance with International law and the Geneva conventions

ARTICLE 27

However, the Parties to the conflict may take such measures of control and security in regard to protected persons as may be necessary as a result of the war.

ARTICLE 28

The presence of a protected person may not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations.

ARTICLE 41

Should the Power in whose hands protected persons may be consider the measures of control mentioned in the present Convention to be inadequate, it may not have recourse to any other measure of control more severe than that of assigned residence or internment, in accordance with the provisions of Articles 42 [ Link ] and 43 [ Link ] .
In applying the provisions of Article 39, second paragraph [ Link ] , to the cases of persons required to leave their usual places of residence by virtue of a decision placing them in assigned residence elsewhere, the Detaining Power shall be guided as closely as possible by the standards of welfare set forth in Part III, Section IV of this Convention.

ARTICLE 42

The internment or placing in assigned residence of protected persons may be ordered only if the security of the Detaining Power makes it absolutely necessary.
If any person, acting through the representatives of the Protecting Power, voluntarily demands internment and if his situation renders this step necessary, he shall be interned by the Power in whose hands he may be.

ARTICLE 44

In applying the measures of control mentioned in the present Convention, the Detaining Power shall not treat as enemy aliens exclusively on the basis of their nationality nationality ' de jure ' of an enemy State, refugees who do not, in fact, enjoy the protection of any government.

ARTICLE 46

In so far as they have not been previously withdrawn, restrictive measures taken regarding protected persons shall be cancelled as soon as possible after the close of hostilities.
Restrictive measures affecting their property shall be cancelled, in accordance with the law of the Detaining Power, as soon as possible after the close of hostilities.

ARTICLE 53

Any destruction by the Occupying Power of real or personal property belonging individually or collectively to private persons, or to the State, or to other public authorities, or to social or cooperative organizations, is prohibited, except where such destruction is rendered absolutely necessary by military operations.

ARTICLE 64

The penal laws of the occupied territory shall remain in force, with the exception that they may be repealed or suspended by the Occupying Power in cases where they constitute a threat to its security or an obstacle to the application of the present Convention. Subject to the latter consideration and to the necessity for ensuring the effective administration of justice, the tribunals of the occupied territory shall continue to function in respect of all offences covered by the said laws.
The Occupying Power may, however, subject the population of the occupied territory to provisions which are essential to enable the Occupying Power to fulfil its obligations under the present Convention, to maintain the orderly government of the territory, and to ensure the security of the Occupying Power, of the members and property of the occupying forces or administration, and likewise of the establishments and lines of communication used by them

ARTICLE 68

The penal provisions promulgated by the Occupying Power in accordance with Articles 64 [ Link ] and 65 [ Link ] may impose the death penalty on a protected person only in cases where the person is guilty of espionage, of serious acts of sabotage against the military installations of the Occupying Power or of intentional offences which have caused the death of one or more persons, provided that such offences were punishable by death under the law of the occupied territory in force before the occupation began.


ARTICLE 78

If the Occupying Power considers it necessary, for imperative reasons of security, to take safety measures concerning protected persons, it may, at the most, subject them to assigned residence or to internment.


This about covers the actions of Israel in the west bank and shows that they are in full compliance with the relevant parts of the Geneva conventions.

Thank you for finally acknowledging that the West Bank is covered by the 4th Geneva Conventions. [MENTION=44172]Sweet_Caroline[/MENTION]

Israel is in violation of the following regulations of the 4th GC, in reference to Occupied Territories.

"Art. 53. Any destruction by the Occupying Power of real or personal property belonging individually or collectively to private persons, or to the State, or to other public authorities, or to social or cooperative organizations, is prohibited, except where such destruction is rendered absolutely necessary by military operations.

Art. 33. No protected person may be punished for an offence he or she has not personally committed. Collective penalties and likewise all measures of intimidation or of terrorism are prohibited.

Nevertheless, the Occupying Power may undertake total or partial evacuation of a given area if the security of the population or imperative military reasons so demand. Such evacuations may not involve the displacement of protected persons outside the bounds of the occupied territory except when for material reasons it is impossible to avoid such displacement. Persons thus evacuated shall be transferred back to their homes as soon as hostilities in the area in question have ceased.

The Occupying Power undertaking such transfers or evacuations shall ensure, to the greatest practicable extent, that proper accommodation is provided to receive the protected persons, that the removals are effected in satisfactory conditions of hygiene, health, safety and nutrition, and that members of the same family are not separated."

Taking each point in turn

You answer this one yourself when you put except where such destruction is rendered absolutely necessary by military operations in as every destruction of property is for military operations. Unless you can prove beyond reasonable doubt they aren't.

Again in full compliance with the Geneva conventions and you cant prove beyond reasonable doubt that they aren't.


So do show were Israel has breached the Geneva conventions by producing itemised detailed instances of such breaches. Your word or the word of NGO's is biased so not acceptable under the circumstances.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

If it is happening outside of Israel's borders then it is not apartheid is it, it is full compliance with International law and the Geneva conventions

ARTICLE 27

However, the Parties to the conflict may take such measures of control and security in regard to protected persons as may be necessary as a result of the war.

ARTICLE 28

The presence of a protected person may not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations.

ARTICLE 41

Should the Power in whose hands protected persons may be consider the measures of control mentioned in the present Convention to be inadequate, it may not have recourse to any other measure of control more severe than that of assigned residence or internment, in accordance with the provisions of Articles 42 [ Link ] and 43 [ Link ] .
In applying the provisions of Article 39, second paragraph [ Link ] , to the cases of persons required to leave their usual places of residence by virtue of a decision placing them in assigned residence elsewhere, the Detaining Power shall be guided as closely as possible by the standards of welfare set forth in Part III, Section IV of this Convention.

ARTICLE 42

The internment or placing in assigned residence of protected persons may be ordered only if the security of the Detaining Power makes it absolutely necessary.
If any person, acting through the representatives of the Protecting Power, voluntarily demands internment and if his situation renders this step necessary, he shall be interned by the Power in whose hands he may be.

ARTICLE 44

In applying the measures of control mentioned in the present Convention, the Detaining Power shall not treat as enemy aliens exclusively on the basis of their nationality nationality ' de jure ' of an enemy State, refugees who do not, in fact, enjoy the protection of any government.

ARTICLE 46

In so far as they have not been previously withdrawn, restrictive measures taken regarding protected persons shall be cancelled as soon as possible after the close of hostilities.
Restrictive measures affecting their property shall be cancelled, in accordance with the law of the Detaining Power, as soon as possible after the close of hostilities.

ARTICLE 53

Any destruction by the Occupying Power of real or personal property belonging individually or collectively to private persons, or to the State, or to other public authorities, or to social or cooperative organizations, is prohibited, except where such destruction is rendered absolutely necessary by military operations.

ARTICLE 64

The penal laws of the occupied territory shall remain in force, with the exception that they may be repealed or suspended by the Occupying Power in cases where they constitute a threat to its security or an obstacle to the application of the present Convention. Subject to the latter consideration and to the necessity for ensuring the effective administration of justice, the tribunals of the occupied territory shall continue to function in respect of all offences covered by the said laws.
The Occupying Power may, however, subject the population of the occupied territory to provisions which are essential to enable the Occupying Power to fulfil its obligations under the present Convention, to maintain the orderly government of the territory, and to ensure the security of the Occupying Power, of the members and property of the occupying forces or administration, and likewise of the establishments and lines of communication used by them

ARTICLE 68

The penal provisions promulgated by the Occupying Power in accordance with Articles 64 [ Link ] and 65 [ Link ] may impose the death penalty on a protected person only in cases where the person is guilty of espionage, of serious acts of sabotage against the military installations of the Occupying Power or of intentional offences which have caused the death of one or more persons, provided that such offences were punishable by death under the law of the occupied territory in force before the occupation began.


ARTICLE 78

If the Occupying Power considers it necessary, for imperative reasons of security, to take safety measures concerning protected persons, it may, at the most, subject them to assigned residence or to internment.


This about covers the actions of Israel in the west bank and shows that they are in full compliance with the relevant parts of the Geneva conventions.

Thank you for finally acknowledging that the West Bank is covered by the 4th Geneva Conventions. [MENTION=44172]Sweet_Caroline[/MENTION]

Israel is in violation of the following regulations of the 4th GC, in reference to Occupied Territories.

"Art. 53. Any destruction by the Occupying Power of real or personal property belonging individually or collectively to private persons, or to the State, or to other public authorities, or to social or cooperative organizations, is prohibited, except where such destruction is rendered absolutely necessary by military operations.

Art. 33. No protected person may be punished for an offence he or she has not personally committed. Collective penalties and likewise all measures of intimidation or of terrorism are prohibited.

Nevertheless, the Occupying Power may undertake total or partial evacuation of a given area if the security of the population or imperative military reasons so demand. Such evacuations may not involve the displacement of protected persons outside the bounds of the occupied territory except when for material reasons it is impossible to avoid such displacement. Persons thus evacuated shall be transferred back to their homes as soon as hostilities in the area in question have ceased.

The Occupying Power undertaking such transfers or evacuations shall ensure, to the greatest practicable extent, that proper accommodation is provided to receive the protected persons, that the removals are effected in satisfactory conditions of hygiene, health, safety and nutrition, and that members of the same family are not separated."

Whereas Phoenal agrees that the WB is covered by the 4th Geneva Convention I do not as Article 2 states that the "4th GC only applies to two or more high contradicting parties" which is not the case because the international community never recognized Jordan's annexation of Judea and Samaria.

 

[toastman]

1949 UN armistice agreements.

you provided legal documents, yes. But none of those refute the fact that Israel won the war.

Your claim is that there was no winner because the war ended with armistice agreements. I've asked you several times to provide me with a link says that because of the armistice agreements, there was no winner.

The key aspect in an armistice is the fact that fighting ends with no one surrendering.

Armistice - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And the 1949 UN armistice agreements showed that neither the borders of Palestine nor the borders of any of the surrounding countries changed from before the war.

So Israel "winning" the 1948 war seems to be mere say so.

The intention of the Arabs was to destroy the newly founded State of Israel.
They failed at this, and in the process, managed to lose way more troops.

The intention of the Israelis was to push off the Arab offensive and survive.
They succeeded at this.

And to top it all off, Israel captured 50% of the territory allotted to the 'Palestinians' in the partition plan.

Of course the Arabs didn't officially surrender. But them not surrendering doesn't mean they didn't lose.

 

[toastman]

Sure, you always question what I say and when I provide links you blow them off.

Because you use biased sources that support your POV, you never use unbiased sources because they never support your POV.

Oh, you say that about everybody who does not suck up to Israel's lies.

False, you are the one who says that about everybody who doesn't suck up to Palestinian propaganda lies

 

[Victory67]

So this is happening inside Israel's borders is it, or is it happening in the occupied territory and done in full compliance with International law and the Geneva conventions.

If the later then you are spouting NAZI ANTI SEMITIC JEW HATRED learnt from some hate site, and you are not concerned with the truth because it would mean you would have to admit your racism.

And yet you are notoriously silent when another member calls for racist ethnic cleansing of Arabs in the West Bank.

I am now starting to understand why Israel thinks they can violate international laws. They think the laws are "for thee but not for me".