Zone1 Why does a good God allow evil?

[TNHarley]

Because…..you are trying to show that religious people are morally inferior.

No, religious people are apart of todays society, correct? WE, as a society, are morally superior to the ancient abrahamic peoples that thought having their child killed for backtalking was moral. Because their god said so.

 

[Votto]

So lets say that murdering entire cities for people speaking to a statue, or dudes wanting a penis in their mouth raised the standard of conduct. Having your own child killed for backtalk is raising the standard of conduct. Ok, fine.
But my whole point was we are now morally superior to those people.
Your gaslighting doesnt change anything.

Again, if morality is relative how are you superior?

You are only superior in your own mind is all.

If you are correct, morality does not really exist.

 

[TNHarley]

You are only superior in your own mind is all.

It is relative, but if someone thinks we arent, they have severe problems.

 

[Votto]

It is relative, but if someone thinks we arent, they have severe problems.

So, again, if morality does not really exist how can you have a problem of lacking something that does not really exist?

 

[Votto]

TN, you have a hard on for the God of Abraham and not in a good way. It's as irrational as your hard on for Abraham Lincoln. You must be dumber than a rock.

We see this also with TDS.

It is an interesting phenomenon as there is virtually nothing you can do to convince them that Trump is not Hitler on acid.

Nothing he does or says can ever change their minds.

 

[TNHarley]

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So, again, if morality does not really exist how can you have a problem of lacking something that does not really exist?

I get your point man, but not having the town elders kill your kid because he backtalks is superior to doing it. I would imagine 99.9999999% percent of the human population would agree.
Thats why we moved on past that godly killing.

 

[TNHarley]

We see this also with TDS.

It is an interesting phenomenon as there is virtually nothing you can do to convince them that Trump is not Hitler on acid.

Nothing he does or says can ever change their minds.

Dont add on to his gaslighting narcissism please.
He does this to every single person that disagrees with him. On anything.

 

[Votto]

I get your point man, but not having the town elders kill your kid because he backtalks is superior to doing it. I would imagine 99.9999999% percent of the human population would agree.
Thats why we moved on past that godly killing.

You keep throwing allegation around without reference.

It's like talking to someone who has TDS as they rant about Trump raping women and selling out to Putin in a thousand directions at once while ignoring the topic at hand.

If those that claim to follow the God of the Bible don't engage in the above allegation then perhaps you are missing something rather than just assuming they are the ones missing something here.

Again, I think deep down you believe that right and wrong exists but have no way to back that up since you jettison the notion of a God there that is the basis of it.

 

[dblack]

You keep throwing allegation around without reference.

It's like talking to someone who has TDS as they rant about Trump raping women and selling out to Putin in a thousand directions at once while ignoring the topic at hand.

If those that claim to follow the God of the Bible don't engage in the above allegation then perhaps you are missing something rather than just assuming they are the ones missing something here.

Again, I think deep down you believe that right and wrong exists but have no way to back that up since you jettison the notion of a God there that is the basis of it.

Morality is an evolved trait the predates religion. "God" keeps everyone on the same page, but didn't invent morality.

This is really worth the time:

 

[TNHarley]

You keep throwing allegation around without reference.

It's like talking to someone who has TDS as they rant about Trump raping women and selling out to Putin in a thousand directions at once while ignoring the topic at hand.

If those that claim to follow the God of the Bible don't engage in the above allegation then perhaps you are missing something rather than just assuming they are the ones missing something here.

Again, I think deep down you believe that right and wrong exists but have no way to back that up since you jettison the notion of a God there that is the basis of it.

Right and wrong is older than the abrahamic god.

 

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Right and wrong is older than the abrahamic god.

What gives right and wrong meaning?

 

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Dont add on to his gaslighting narcissism please.

Gaslighting narcissism? I can't believe you didn't implode from the irony of that statement. You're the one trying to gaslight Abrahamic religions with your disingenuous and simple minded arguments. God is mean. Life is unfair. God is cruel. But that's just how you see life; unfair, mean and cruel.

 

[TNHarley]

Gaslighting narcissism? I can't believe you didn't implode from the irony of that statement. You're the one trying to gaslight Abrahamic religions with your disingenuous and simple minded arguments. God is mean. Life is unfair. God is cruel. But that's just how you see life; unfair, mean and cruel.

You simply cant help yourself.

 

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He does this to every single person that disagrees with him. On anything.

I argue fact. I argue reason. And I argue experience. Your characterization of what I do is interesting and revealing. If you can't handle the heat, then get out of the kitchen.

 

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You simply cant help yourself.

You see the world as unfair, cruel and mean and because I point that out, that's me not being able to help myself?

Why are you surprised you are getting challenged? Isn't this what you came looking for?

 

[TNHarley]

I argue fact. I argue reason. And I argue experience. Your characterization of what I do is interesting and revealing. If you can't handle the heat, then get out of the kitchen.

You cant have a disagreement with anyone. Its sad, honestly.

 

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You cant have a disagreement with anyone. Its sad, honestly.

I have no problem with others disagreeing with me. You seem to be the one bothered by my disagreeing with you. It's hot in the kitchen.

 

[TNHarley]

I have no problem with others disagreeing with me.

 

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Seriously, I'm more than happy for you to believe any damn foolish thing you want. Just don't expect to trot it out without being challenged. Now stop your crying and make me a sandwich.

 

[TNHarley]

Seriously, I'm more than happy for you to believe any damn foolish thing you want. Just don't expect to trot it out without being challenged. Now stop your crying and make me a sandwich.

You dont challenge me. In the slightest. Ever.