Zone1 Why does a good God allow evil?

[TNHarley]

Ok, so you would call circumcision mutilation?

I would not as there are health benefits to it

You know damn well what I am referring to but refuse to acknowledge it.

I would, yes. Cutting off a womans clit has no health benefits. It does have severe short and long term health effects.
Male circumcision is just some flappy skin, and it comes with health benefits. "Mutilation" in that case is a bit far fetched.

 

[Votto]

I would, yes. Cutting off a womans clit has no health benefits. It does have severe short and long term health effects.
Male circumcision is just some flappy skin, and it comes with health benefits. "Mutilation" in that case is a bit far fetched.

Again, I was referring to male circumcision ONLY, which is referred to in the Biblical text.

That other crap came later along with the Mohammadian cult and the DEI cult that has their special version of it.

 

[TNHarley]

And why does such a morally superior society tolerate more slavery than ever before?

Africa isnt the US. We also dont use the Quran to dictate our laws or customs. Thank gawd.

 

[TNHarley]

Funny fact, when slavery was legal the majority of society seemed to think it not ideal, but OK. However, decades after slavery was made illegal, the majority consensus is that it is immoral and blatantly absurd, yet they tolerate it more than ever.

The same can be said of abortion. Before Roe the consensus was that it was immoral, but today the consensus is that it is not ideal, but Ok.

It shows two things.

1. Humans are lemmings of the state. The Bible uses the term sheep.

2. Humans are largely indifferent to evil if the state is indifferent to it. Again, they are lemmings of the state.

Most humans are weak and must be lead. Fatal flaw, IMO.

 

[TNHarley]

Again, I was referring to male circumcision ONLY, which is referred to in the Biblical text.

That other crap came later along with the Mohammadian cult and the DEI cult that has their special version of it.

My whole argument is about the abrahamic religions. Which includes Islam.

 

[Votto]

Africa isnt the US. We also dont use the Quran to dictate our laws or customs. Thank gawd.

Did I ever suggest we should?

No.

My thread is about where morality comes from and does it even have any significant meaning, that is, telling right from wrong?

What to do about it is a whole other thread in itself.

My point for bringing up the state is that our morality is largely shaped by it, like it or not.

 

[Votto]

Most humans are weak and must be lead. Fatal flaw, IMO.

Flawed?

Why is it not perfect the way it is?

Is this not subjective in itself considering your "morality is relative" stance?

 

[TNHarley]

Did I ever suggest we should?

No.

My thread is about where morality comes from and does it even have any significant meaning, that is, telling right from wrong?

What to do about it is a whole other thread in itself.

My point for bringing up the state is that our morality is largely shaped by it, like it or not.

I wont disagree. But the state is shaped by the people.

 

[TNHarley]

Flawed?

Why is it not perfect the way it is?

Is this not subjective in itself considering your "morality is relative" stance?

Being a sheep isnt something to brag about, or be a life ambition. It is a sign of weakness.
Thinking for yourself? Thats an ambition.

 

[Votto]

I wont disagree. But the state is shaped by the people.

Exactly, and the people demand a flawed human king, something the Bible argued against in 1 Samuel 8.

But the people would not listen and voted for King Saul instead.

 

[ding]

It discusses both. Because it existed, so they said fuck it. Lets regulate it.

Only you can take a people raising standards and see it as a negative because you don't think they did enough.

That you compare them to today instead of what the norm was back then is truly astonishing.

 

[Votto]

Being a sheep isnt something to brag about, or be a life ambition. It is a sign of weakness.
Thinking for yourself? Thats an ambition.

Recognizing your weaknesses is not a weakness, rather, it is just in indication you are not delusional.

A man has to know his limitations.

 

[Anathema]

As I have said repeatedly here before, this is the one question that dogs those of faith, which is, why does a good God allow evil? But for those not of faith, the questions are even harder, which is, answering pretty much everything else regarding our existence.

The answer I’ve come up with for this after many years of considering it….

God ISN’T Good. Never has been and never will be.,

 

[ding]

The answer I’ve come up with for this after many years of considering it….

God ISN’T Good. Never has been and never will be.,

Life is unfair. Expect to make sacrifices.

 

[TNHarley]

Only you can take a people raising standards and see it as a negative because you don't think they did enough.

That you compare them to today instead of what the norm was back then is truly astonishing.

Yes, gawd forbid someone brings up us evolving. Good grief

 

[TNHarley]

The answer I’ve come up with for this after many years of considering it….

God ISN’T Good. Never has been and never will be.,

How can something be good when it rules from the sword and fear?

 

[Anathema]

How can something be good when it rules from the sword and fear?

True, but I’m not going to suggest that God is evil wither. I’ve come to the conclusion that Gid doesn’t really care about any of us individually or as a whole. Our existence here is simply a test of whether we can live the way we’re told to, even when it’s unpleasant and not to our advantage.

 

[ding]

Yes, gawd forbid someone brings up us evolving. Good grief

That wasn't what you were doing or have ever done when you speak of this subject. And you know it.

 

[TNHarley]

That wasn't what you were doing or have ever done when you speak of this subject. And you know it.

Nope

 

[Lisa558]

That wasn't what you were doing or have ever done when you speak of this subject. And you know it.

What he’s doing is comparing religious people who lived 3000 years ago, with the morals of the time, to non-religious people of TODAY.

Why not compare godless people of TODAY (which are almost always liberals) to religious people of today?