Why do you support liberalism?

[Tom Clancy]

Without Liberals we'd still be under the British. Conservatives, anti-change, were Royalists.

You obviously don't know the meaning of Liberalism back then.

liberalism? it was a radical and liberal act to see the Colonies as independent of the Crown

Back then, Liberalism was about Small Limited Government, and Individual Liberty.

Classical liberalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nothing like today's Modern Liberalism.

 

[rightwinger]

You obviously don't know the meaning of Liberalism back then.

liberalism? it was a radical and liberal act to see the Colonies as independent of the Crown

Back then, Liberalism was about Small Limited Government, and Individual Liberty.

Classical liberalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nothing like today's Modern Liberalism.

So is your claim that somehow conservatives are for small limited government??

 

[Tom Clancy]

liberalism? it was a radical and liberal act to see the Colonies as independent of the Crown

Back then, Liberalism was about Small Limited Government, and Individual Liberty.

Classical liberalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nothing like today's Modern Liberalism.

So is your claim that somehow conservatives are for small limited government??

Somehow?

If someone actually Realized what Conservative stands for then yes..

So far, The Republican Party doesn't represent those ideals.

I don't get why you're laughing.

 

[Dante]

You obviously don't know the meaning of Liberalism back then.

liberalism? it was a radical and liberal act to see the Colonies as independent of the Crown

Back then, Liberalism was about Small Limited Government, and Individual Liberty.

Classical liberalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nothing like today's Modern Liberalism.

Liberalism today is not about the SIZE of government, but the ROLE of government.

There is nothing about liberalism then or now that dictated the SIZE of government.

Classical liberalism was concerned with LIMITED government. Government "where any more than minimal governmental intervention in personal liberties and the economy is not usually allowed by law, usually in a written Constitution. "

Minimal government intervention. Not NO government intervention. And this in the areas of personal liberties and the economy.

One can argue over the limits of an intervention (for more or less of a proposal) and still be arguing true to an outlook of limited government.

I doubt there ever was a litmus test.



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[Dante]

Back then, Liberalism was about Small Limited Government, and Individual Liberty.

Classical liberalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nothing like today's Modern Liberalism.

So is your claim that somehow conservatives are for small limited government??

Somehow?

If someone actually Realized what Conservative stands for then yes..

So far, The Republican Party doesn't represent those ideals.

I don't get why you're laughing.

Purists are never reasonable or rational.


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[HUGGY]

Back then, Liberalism was about Small Limited Government, and Individual Liberty.

Classical liberalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nothing like today's Modern Liberalism.

So is your claim that somehow conservatives are for small limited government??

Somehow?

If someone actually Realized what Conservative stands for then yes..

So far, The Republican Party doesn't represent those ideals.

I don't get why you're laughing.

I do. Tom Tom...there hasn't been a true conservative leader in the GOP since Goldwater.

Nixon..Ideologe..criminal, Red Baiter Reagan..Idiot ideologe.. Red baitor...fear monger..destroyer of the middle class. Bush one...Nation building south american destroying cia operative..tool for oil...suck up to the saudis and amazingly israel.
Bush two... we don't have to retace those "conservative" tracks

For the last thirty years conservatives have only tried to give everything away that slightly resembled power or value to the top 5% of americans as a trade to have a platform to spread thier religeous dogma.

 

[Kevin Adams]

I'd love to see some of the answers here.

No political movement or party represents Truth or legitimacy.

 

[Dante]

I'd love to see some of the answers here.

No political movement or party represents Truth or legitimacy.

Who the **** seeks Truth from a political party?

Political parties are about exercising power in government---hello? Nothing wrong there.

 

[rightwinger]

Back then, Liberalism was about Small Limited Government, and Individual Liberty.

Classical liberalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nothing like today's Modern Liberalism.

So is your claim that somehow conservatives are for small limited government??

Somehow?

If someone actually Realized what Conservative stands for then yes..

So far, The Republican Party doesn't represent those ideals.

I don't get why you're laughing.

I'm laughing because we have yet to have a Conservative balance the budget or reduce the size or scope of Government.

Now you get to play your "republicans are not conservative enough" card

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Well, besides Fascism being the opposite of Communism?

ROFLMNAO! Really?

Can ya show your math on this one?

Read

So... As is always the case where Leftist are being challenged to support their deceit... the answer is a resouding: 'NO! As a Leftist I cannot support my stated position. I'd like to support it, because I believe it's true; its just that I am ignorant of history, largely due to my sub-par intelligence... but I'm also a lazy ***** who just doesn't give a damn.'

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

I'd love to see some of the answers here.

Has anyone even answered your question???? I see a bunch of people go off on tangents about classic liberalism and quotes from other people but I haven't actually seen one specific thing that a person said they like about it. I thought it was an easy question but apparently not. sheesh..

Nope... and they never do.

If you're ever bored shitless and just want to run out an experiment. Go through the other boards and search for similar topics... Where Conservatives.. (Americans) are asked to define themselves, one will find dozens of Americans defining their beliefs; who they are, what they stand for...

As is the case on this board, and in ALL of the threads of a similar nature... the Left canot define itself, they cannot tell you what they believe or why.

And why is that? Several reasons; they're scared to death of pissing off one of their little clique-mates... they're desperate need for popularity... they're ignorance, severely limited intelligence...

They are the least capable minds in any group.

 

[editec]

I'd love to see some of the answers here.

Has anyone even answered your question???? I see a bunch of people go off on tangents about classic liberalism and quotes from other people but I haven't actually seen one specific thing that a person said they like about it. I thought it was an easy question but apparently not. sheesh..

Nope... and they never do.

If you're ever bored shitless and just want to run out an experiment. Go through the other boards and search for similar topics... Where Conservatives.. (Americans) are asked to define themselves, one will find dozens of Americans defining their beliefs; who they are, what they stand for...

As is the case on this board, and in ALL of the threads of a similar nature... the Left canot define itself, they cannot tell you what they believe or why.

And why is that? Several reasons; they're scared to death of pissing off one of their little clique-mates... they're desperate need for popularity... they're ignorance, severely limited intelligence...

They are the least capable minds in any group.

It's not an easy question it was a loaded question.

Whose definition of "liberal" are we talking about?

 

[maineman]

I'd love to see some of the answers here.

Has anyone even answered your question???? I see a bunch of people go off on tangents about classic liberalism and quotes from other people but I haven't actually seen one specific thing that a person said they like about it. I thought it was an easy question but apparently not. sheesh..

Nope... and they never do.

If you're ever bored shitless and just want to run out an experiment. Go through the other boards and search for similar topics... Where Conservatives.. (Americans) are asked to define themselves, one will find dozens of Americans defining their beliefs; who they are, what they stand for...

As is the case on this board, and in ALL of the threads of a similar nature... the Left canot define itself, they cannot tell you what they believe or why.

And why is that? Several reasons; they're scared to death of pissing off one of their little clique-mates... they're desperate need for popularity... they're ignorance, severely limited intelligence...

They are the least capable minds in any group.

that is simply not true. I support liberalism because I applaud the successes it has acheived in the past century. I applaud women's suffrage, and child labor laws, and labor unions, and workplace safety laws, and a progressive income tax system, and the forty hour work week, and civil rights, and social security and medicare and medicaid, and environmental protection, and minimum wage, and I further support liberalism's efforts to promote marriage equality, and women's rights. I believe that those successes and those goals have and will make America a better country.

I further believe that history clearly shows that conservatives will never stop the march of progressive liberalism... they may slow it down, but they will never stop it and they will never ever reverse it. Things that were anathema to conservatives a century ago are now accepted by conservatives today... as evidenced by the sign held up at a tea party rally last summer, "Keep your socialist hands off my medicare" Can you imagine any conservative advocating a return to a system where children were not required to go to school and employers could hire young children for meager wages to work long hours in factories? Can you imagine a conservative today advocating taking the vote away from women? Can you imagine a conservative today advocating the abolishment of social security? Can you imagine a conservative today advocating the outlawing of labor unions?

 

[sweetie]

lol!..some 6 billion of us on the planet and you stooooooopid **** 'conservatives' and 'liberals' have us divided into these two stinking, motherfucking, phony camps..false dichotomies..

...'conservative' republicrats, in my DICTIONARY a 'conservative' (n.) is 'someone who opposes change'...and 'someone who favors existing institutions'..

...yet, you miserable, fox news brainwashed fools ARE, seemingly, ALWAYS BITCHING ABOUT 'THE WAY THE GOVERNMENT IS'..

...so there we have it: YOU STOOOOOOOOPID 'CONSERVATIVE' RUSE LOWBROW PARROTS ARE CONSTANTLY BITCHING ABOUT THE WAY THINGS ARE...YET THE DICTIONARY SAYS YOU WANT THINGS TO REMAIN THE SAME!!

(in other words, methinks maybe you goddamned conservative fools are some sick, masochistic *****!...seek help..)

...the rest of you, have a good day!..

 

[skookerasbil]

Liberalism is a gignatic hoax..............in the history of the world, its never worked anywhere. Even Europe is now in the midst of moving far away from the disaster of the past 50 years: high inflation, huge joblessness, disaterous levels of debt.

Liberalism preys on people who blindly embrace government as a solution to all of societies problems................and it is truly the ideology of profound idealism. It is embraced by the truly miserable of society..........people who are jealous of success and accomplishment, in fact, liberals prefer to punish those who are successful. Liberalism corrupts the individual of morals, values and self-esteem. It champions dependency and destroys personal initiative. Liberalism abides by teh assumption that everything you want, you should have, no matter the cost. It seeks to level the playing field of society, yet in doing so sinmply creates a new segment of have-nots........and those embracing it dont even understand the tradeoffs. Proponents of liberalism are weak in character and almost invariably, succomb to adversity in life and ALWAYS............ALWAYS seek to blame the capitalist for their sorry lot in life, thus, of course, the need for government to fix things.

I could go on and on but I need to go to work..............while many of the radical liberals on this site sit home for the next 16 hours and blog, having no real responsiblities in their lives.

Oh for the life of a liberal, huh???!!!

 

[maineman]

Oh for the life of a liberal, huh???!!!

you send this liberal a nice paycheck every month ... thanks!

 

[sweetie]

..hey maineman, do you applaud the stinking warmongering, government secrecy, monetary debauchery, etceterot ad nauseam, your stinking 'liberal' republicrats--along with the stinking 'conservative' republicrats--have facilitated?!?

(sometimes i feel like i've busted in on a bunch of republicrat party county cheerman around here!..)

 

[Vanquish]

I'd love to see some of the answers here.

Has anyone even answered your question???? I see a bunch of people go off on tangents about classic liberalism and quotes from other people but I haven't actually seen one specific thing that a person said they like about it. I thought it was an easy question but apparently not. sheesh..

Nope... and they never do.

If you're ever bored shitless and just want to run out an experiment. Go through the other boards and search for similar topics... Where Conservatives.. (Americans) are asked to define themselves, one will find dozens of Americans defining their beliefs; who they are, what they stand for...

As is the case on this board, and in ALL of the threads of a similar nature... the Left canot define itself, they cannot tell you what they believe or why.

And why is that? Several reasons; they're scared to death of pissing off one of their little clique-mates... they're desperate need for popularity... they're ignorance, severely limited intelligence...

They are the least capable minds in any group.

Dude, I've schooled your ass on many occasions - though I'm only a left-leaning Centrist/Independent. Imagine what a fully-fledged leftist could do. ha ha ha.

And as for the fascism vs communism thing...

fascism and socialism are the two theories at odds...fascism requires a social class system whereas socialism promotes a classLESS society.

PubicIntintessimal, you should be right at home with classless people.

 

[maineman]

..hey maineman, do you applaud the stinking warmongering, government secrecy, monetary debauchery, etceterot ad nauseam, your stinking 'liberal' republicrats--along with the stinking 'conservative' republicrats--have facilitated?!?

no. I just happen to believe that the democratic party has the better platform and as long as I agree with most of it, I will remain a democrat.

 

[Care4all]

Has anyone even answered your question???? I see a bunch of people go off on tangents about classic liberalism and quotes from other people but I haven't actually seen one specific thing that a person said they like about it. I thought it was an easy question but apparently not. sheesh..

Nope... and they never do.

If you're ever bored shitless and just want to run out an experiment. Go through the other boards and search for similar topics... Where Conservatives.. (Americans) are asked to define themselves, one will find dozens of Americans defining their beliefs; who they are, what they stand for...

As is the case on this board, and in ALL of the threads of a similar nature... the Left canot define itself, they cannot tell you what they believe or why.

And why is that? Several reasons; they're scared to death of pissing off one of their little clique-mates... they're desperate need for popularity... they're ignorance, severely limited intelligence...

They are the least capable minds in any group.

that is simply not true. I support liberalism because I applaud the successes it has acheived in the past century. I applaud women's suffrage, and child labor laws, and labor unions, and workplace safety laws, and a progressive income tax system, and the forty hour work week, and civil rights, and social security and medicare and medicaid, and environmental protection, and minimum wage, and I further support liberalism's efforts to promote marriage equality, and women's rights. I believe that those successes and those goals have and will make America a better country.

I further believe that history clearly shows that conservatives will never stop the march of progressive liberalism... they may slow it down, but they will never stop it and they will never ever reverse it. Things that were anathema to conservatives a century ago are now accepted by conservatives today... as evidenced by the sign held up at a tea party rally last summer, "Keep your socialist hands off my medicare" Can you imagine any conservative advocating a return to a system where children were not required to go to school and employers could hire young children for meager wages to work long hours in factories? Can you imagine a conservative today advocating taking the vote away from women? Can you imagine a conservative today advocating the abolishment of social security? Can you imagine a conservative today advocating the outlawing of labor unions?

Well said Maineman anddddd.....

No, I can NOT EVEN IMAGINE this great country of ours, without its progress from liberalism/liberals!

(what a great winter and Spring up here this year, eh...maineman?!!!!)