Why do you support liberalism?

Define..

There's a Huge Difference between, Classic Liberalism & Modern Liberalism.

not really.

there's a difference between progressivism and liberalism. and certain people think all democrats are liberals and all republicans are conservatives. technically, the republican party is reactionary.

and there are people who think anything that isn't to the right of atilla the hun is 'liberal'.
 
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Define..

There's a Huge Difference between, Classic Liberalism & Modern Liberalism.

Liberal/Progressive/Socialist/Democrat whatever you want to call it.

Well..

Like any sort of Philosophy has it's "Good" Parts.. (Not Mentioning Extremist Philosophy's, Like Communism nor Fascism.)

But what do i think of em? I have nothing against them really.. I just don't approve of it, I understand why people would be inclined to be a Liberal/Progressive etc, but it's not for me..

I'm a Conservative, with a hint of Classic Liberalism. And no, not the Conservative Palin and Hannity make it out to be.. I actually despise those two Nuts, The Real Conservatism.

Big difference between, Neo-Cons and Conservatives.
 
Define..

There's a Huge Difference between, Classic Liberalism & Modern Liberalism.

not really.

there's a difference between progressivism and liberalism. and certain people think all democrats are liberals and all republicans are conservatives. technically, the republican party is reactionary.

and there are people who think anything that isn't to the right of atilla the hun is 'liberal'.

I'm talking about what Classic Liberalism stood for back in the 1700's and Today's sense of Liberalism.
 
What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label "Liberal?" If by "Liberal" they mean, as they want people to believe, someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer's dollar, then ... we are not that kind of "Liberal." But if by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal." [JFK September 14, 1960]
 
What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label "Liberal?" If by "Liberal" they mean, as they want people to believe, someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer's dollar, then ... we are not that kind of "Liberal." But if by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal." [JFK September 14, 1960]

Pretty much this. Though that's a more widened view of Liberalism than specific.
 
Define..

There's a Huge Difference between, Classic Liberalism & Modern Liberalism.

not really.

there's a difference between progressivism and liberalism. and certain people think all democrats are liberals and all republicans are conservatives. technically, the republican party is reactionary.

and there are people who think anything that isn't to the right of atilla the hun is 'liberal'.

I'm talking about what Classic Liberalism stood for back in the 1700's and Today's sense of Liberalism.

you said that and i don't see a difference. perhaps if you're more specific?
 
Do you want to know why people support liberalism, progressivism, socialism or the Democratic Party? They're not the same things. :lol:

My answer would be I don't support or fully support three of those, but I suppose if I had to pick one label for message board rah rah team purposes I am a liberal. With a broad libertarian streak and some conservative positions. For most of us it's more complicated than just supporting whatever any one "ism" has to say.
 
not really.

there's a difference between progressivism and liberalism. and certain people think all democrats are liberals and all republicans are conservatives. technically, the republican party is reactionary.

and there are people who think anything that isn't to the right of atilla the hun is 'liberal'.

I'm talking about what Classic Liberalism stood for back in the 1700's and Today's sense of Liberalism.

you said that and i don't see a difference. perhaps if you're more specific?

Classical liberalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label "Liberal?" If by "Liberal" they mean, as they want people to believe, someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer's dollar, then ... we are not that kind of "Liberal." But if by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal." [JFK September 14, 1960]

exactly
 
What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label "Liberal?" If by "Liberal" they mean, as they want people to believe, someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer's dollar, then ... we are not that kind of "Liberal." But if by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal." [JFK September 14, 1960]

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Captured perfectly.
 
you said that and i don't see a difference. perhaps if you're more specific?

Supposedly Liberalism today is Fabian Socialism or whatever semantic garbage people are using. I only use the label of Liberalism personally as it probably best fits (though perhaps not all too well) where I stand.
 
not really.

there's a difference between progressivism and liberalism. and certain people think all democrats are liberals and all republicans are conservatives. technically, the republican party is reactionary.

and there are people who think anything that isn't to the right of atilla the hun is 'liberal'.

I'm talking about what Classic Liberalism stood for back in the 1700's and Today's sense of Liberalism.

you said that and i don't see a difference. perhaps if you're more specific?

"Classic Liberalism" is the predecessor of the modern Republican party. They're very different.
 
Define..

There's a Huge Difference between, Classic Liberalism & Modern Liberalism.

Liberal/Progressive/Socialist/Democrat whatever you want to call it.

Well..

Like any sort of Philosophy has it's "Good" Parts.. (Not Mentioning Extremist Philosophy's, Like Communism nor Fascism.)

But what do i think of em? I have nothing against them really.. I just don't approve of it, I understand why people would be inclined to be a Liberal/Progressive etc, but it's not for me..

I'm a Conservative, with a hint of Classic Liberalism. And no, not the Conservative Palin and Hannity make it out to be.. I actually despise those two Nuts, The Real Conservatism.

Big difference between, Neo-Cons and Conservatives.

If there's one ideology I really don't care for it's neoconservatism. True conservatism is another story, I can respect conservatives even if I (often) disagree with them. ;)
 
What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label "Liberal?" If by "Liberal" they mean, as they want people to believe, someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer's dollar, then ... we are not that kind of "Liberal." But if by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal." [JFK September 14, 1960]
They don't apply the term "liberal", you do...The socialist wing to your party stole the term back in the 1920s, in order to obfuscate their true motives and ends.

If anyone has destroyed the meaning of the term, it's the most illliberal "liberals".
 
What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label "Liberal?" If by "Liberal" they mean, as they want people to believe, someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer's dollar, then ... we are not that kind of "Liberal." But if by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal." [JFK September 14, 1960]
They don't apply the term "liberal", you do...The socialist wing to your party stole the term back in the 1920s, in order to obfuscate their true motives and ends.

If anyone has destroyed the meaning of the term, it's the most illliberal "liberals".

JFK said it best ...thank you
 

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