Why do the U.S. support Ukraine which has Nazi laws?

You make me repeat the same things again and again. Please read the text below.

Why do the U.S. support Ukraine which has Nazi laws?

You don't have a RIGHT to be taught in foreign language.

Private schools in Ukraine can teach in any language they want and to say that Ukraine mandating national language in their PUBLIC education system is proof that they are somehow a Nazis state is straight INSANE.

Any desperate for pretext idiot can grab a certain narrow law in of ANY country and use that to claim that the country is Nazi. It's pure bullshit.
 
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You don't have a RIGHT to be taught in foreign language.

Really? You sure sing a different tune about illegal aliens in America.
To say that Ukraine mandating national language in their PUBLIC system is Nazism make is straight INSANE. Private schools in Ukraine can teach in any language they want.

Yet you Nazi democrats said exactly that when we demanded English in our public schools.,

Any desperate for pretext idiot can grab a law in of ANY country and use that to claim that the country is Nazi. It's pure bullshit.

I should invest in a rake factory, given how many of them you step on...
 
So you support ENGLISH ONLY in public schools?
Of course not. It's a good policy to provide English as Second Language classes in public schools for immigrants to ease integration process for them. But not providing ESL classes would not make us Nazis suddenly.

In USA however we don't have a problem of militarily aggressive Mexico constantly looking to invade and annex parts of our country under pretenses of protecting native Spanish speakers.
 
So all you have is the Ukrainian language is taught to all students, comrade? And that makes them Nazis? BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA!

When you try to be rational, you follow that with stupid shit like this that is as whacked as what you just successfully argued against.

Be careful. There are a lot of Republicans who believe only English should be taught in our schools, too. They demand English be made the official language of the US. Are they Nazis, comrade?

And note you can't write any post without lying:

g5000 the liar wrong "a lot of Republicans who believe only English should be taught in our schools"

Actually, Republicans believe English should be the first language taught, not that it be the only one taught.

You still don't get it? Do you? You're too big a sell out for that
 
Of course not. It's a good policy to provide English as Second Language classes in public schools for immigrants to ease integration process for them. But not providing ESL classes would not make us Nazis suddenly.

In USA however we don't have a problem of militarily aggressive Mexico constantly looking to invade and annex parts of our country under pretenses of protecting native Spanish speakers.

So you're a hypocrite and a fraud. :thup:
 
When you try to be rational, you follow that with stupid shit like this that is as whacked as what you just successfully argued against.



And note you can't write any post without lying:

g5000 the liar wrong "a lot of Republicans who believe only English should be taught in our schools"

Actually, Republicans believe English should be the first language taught, not that it be the only one taught.

You still don't get it? Do you? You're too big a sell out for that

The fact is, Guno hates America.
 
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In the middle of April, I published an article which dealt with the question whether some Ukrainian laws are the Nazi ones (see here).
This article was discussed on USMB (see here) and nobody could disprove that these laws are the Nazi ones, indeed.

It’s an obvious fact that, for example, ethnic Crimean Tatars - according to these laws - are “first-rate” citizens of Ukraine and have more rights; ethnic Hungarians are “second-rate” citizens and have less rights than Crimean Tatars; and ethnic Russians are “third-rate” citizens and have less rights than Hungarians.

It’s another obvious fact, that Ukrainian rulers always make territorial claims to the Russian Crimean Peninsula, where ethnic Russians amount to 67.9% of population (see here).
It means that the Ukrainian rulers want to turn 67.9% of Crimean population into citizens of the “third-rate”!
:clap2:

At the same time, Ukraine intensively armed itself, constantly declared its plans to join NATO etc. The Russian government many times tried to persuade the Ukrainian rulers to remain nonaligned, to let Crimea stay in Russia etc. But Ukraine continued to arm itself etc.

At a certain point of time the Russian government decided that the actions of the Ukrainian rulers reached a dangerous point and very soon the situation could become even more dangerous. And then, the Russian government decided to start a military operation against Ukraine.

But the U.S. supported and support all Ukrainian actions including its claims to the Crimean Peninsula – despite of the Nazi laws in Ukraine.
It means that the U.S. support, inter alia, the Ukrainian plan to turn 67.9% of Crimean population into citizens of the “third-rate”! :clap2:

The question naturally arises – Why do the U.S. support such a country as Ukraine?

My opinion is that it doesn’t matter for the U.S. what kind of a country Ukraine is. The U.S. want to reduce Russian influence in Europe; the U.S. want to sell their liquefied gas in Europe etc.
Therefore, in my opinion, the U.S. are ready to support even Nazis if these Nazis are hostile towards Russia.

Source
IF you use this kind of logic, it points fingers back at US as well as most of the world,
Here you can be judged by your skin color, in the world there has been hate & murder over the size & shape of a nose.
 
Please give your definition of a Nazi state.
For me, Nazi state is a state whose laws divide citizens according to their ethnic origin into categories having different rights.
And the modern Ukraine matches this definition.
Pot calls kettle black?
 
You continue lying out of your ass.

Under 1483 who were recognized as the Authorized Occupying's force in Iraq?

When Iraq failed to meet it's obligations under 686-687 under 1441, the Gulf War Cease Fire Agreement was rendered moot.

At that time the cease fire was over and the Coalition forces were then empowered to take whatever steps they believed necessary to destroy Saddam's army.

Once captured he was turned over to his own people for trial, found guilty of countless war crimes both legally and properly executed.

No one was ever authorized to occupy Iraq.
The UN voted against the use of force.
The US invaded Iraq on its own, illegally.

The fact the US kept claiming Iraq was not meeting its obligation, did NOT at all authorize the US to use force.

Without UN authorization, the US invasion was totally and completely illegal.

Saddam committed no war crimes and was illegal murdered over the execution of the adult male population of a village that tried to ambush his convoy. They were legally found guilty after a trial, and their execution was appropriate for their crime. Saddam did nothing illegal, ever.
 
This “statement signed by more than 300 historians” about Ukrainian right-wing extremists and violent xenophobic groups has nothing to do with Ukrainian LAWS – i.e. with the Ukrainian Law on Indigenous Peoples and Law on Secondary Education (see here), which are discussed here.

And please answer the question below:
Aren’t the laws, which divide citizens according to their ethnic origin into categories, some of which have more rights and others have less rights, the Nazi laws?

Such laws, if they exist, are the result of discrimination that you find in other countries around the world, such as China. Do you want to claim China is a buncha Nazis? Sounds more like laws that progressive liberal democrats want in this country.
 
Ukraine has made a genuine effort to stem corruption in their government over recent. These efforts are the reason why both parties chose to support giving them military aid. If Russia succeeds in annexing Ukraine, they would control a large amount of oil and natural gas and would be able to threaten the. European energy market.

That is Putin's goal, to invade country after country, an get as close to a monopoly on European oil and gas as he can. Ukraine isn't the only country they plan on invading. If Ukraine, and other fossil fuel rich countries, joined NATO and the EU, and had the military protection of those memberships, those plans would be thwarted, which is why Putin went as far as threatening nuclear war if Ukraine were allowed to join.

Wrong.
Russia has more oil than the Ukraine, and is not even interested in the oil producing provinces.
Russia is only interested in the provinces that used to be part of Russia until 1955, and that is only because the Azov Battalion of the Ukraine was murdering ethnic Russians.
In fact, it is the Ukraine that was found guilty in the world court of stealing Russian oil from the Russian pipelines running through the Ukraine.
The reason Putin had to threaten nuclear war was because NATO was trying to put nukes on Russia's border, making a first strike potential without retaliation.
 
They didn't give up all of their sovereignty nor territorial integrity. A federation is an agreement between separate states under an overall umbrella.

Learn to shut up when you have no damned clue what you're talking about.

Joining a federation most certainly does give up national sovereignty.
That is the whole point of a federation.
If California were to conduct its own treaties with Mexico, that would clearly be illegal.

Since the Russian provinces were given to the Ukraine in 1955 as a reward for joining the federation, then leaving the federation should have forfeit them back to Russia.

If Texas or California were to try to negotiate to leave the US federation, then obviously at bare minimum requirement would be that they not join a coalition hostile to the US.

This would be even more imperative to Russia, that lost about 50 million people in WWII and extremely paranoid about future hostile threats.
 
Joining a federation most certainly does give up national sovereignty.
That is the whole point of a federation.
If California were to conduct its own treaties with Mexico, that would clearly be illegal.

You mean like if California were to create a treaty with Mexico as a "sanctuary state?"
Since the Russian provinces were given to the Ukraine in 1955 as a reward for joining the federation, then leaving the federation should have forfeit them back to Russia.

If Texas or California were to try to negotiate to leave the US federation, then obviously at bare minimum requirement would be that they not join a coalition hostile to the US.

This would be even more imperative to Russia, that lost about 50 million people in WWII and extremely paranoid about future hostile threats.

In 1955 there was no "Russian Federation."

You need to lie less.
 

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