Zone1 why do some Protestants think that only they are Christians and the Catholics are not?

[hobelim]

I’m not being silly at all. You have written thousands of posts which reveal your true colors.

Cool.

Many will be purified and refined making their robes shining white, while the wicked will continue in wickedness and none of them shall understand. Two dingbats reading words. One will be taken. The other will be left behind.

 

[ding]

Cool.

Many will be purified and refined making their robes shining white, while the wicked will continue in wickedness and none of them shall understand. Two dingbats reading words. One will be taken. The other will be left behind.

Spoken like a religious nut job after he his intolerance has been called out.

 

[hadit]

Lets test that. I'll spit in your eyes and then you tell me what you see. You will see nothing with spit in your eyes.

Does this shock you?

Of course not, you are not divine, you are not gifted by God to heal blindness, none of that. Jesus is, that's the difference.

When Jesus spit in the mans eyes and asked him what he saw, first the man saw trees walking around, then he saw men. Jesus was teaching the man how to use his imagination in a rational way, how to think rationally, how to 'see' in his mind, as in scripture men are often represented by trees. It was a healing of perception, not sight.

It was obviously a healing of sight. You're just hung up on your own limitations and can't conceive of someone being blessed by God with other power than you.

Now run along.

Obviously you're not interested in "seeing". You just parrot what you've been brainwashed into believing by rote.

I see what the Word tells me, and it tells me that Jesus was fully capable of healing the blind and deaf, casting out demons and raising from the dead, everything that He was empowered to do. You, OTOH, have no power. You can't even read the Word with understanding.

 

[hobelim]

Spoken like a religious nut job after he his intolerance has been called out.

Intolerance? Don't be silly. I have spoken the truth that anyone with eyes that see and ears that hear can verify for themselves if they peek inside of any Catholic Church on any given Sunday and watch the entire congregation brazenly and openly set aside the Law of God to get down on their knees to worship a trinity and eat a lifeless piece of bread MADE BY HUMAN HANDS for spiritual life even though it can neither see, hear, speak, or walk, has no spiritual life to give, is not the Actual Body of Christ, the teaching that Jesus received from God like bread from heaven, much less the flesh of God himself which is flat out irrational profane obscene and blasphemous.

You are as oblivious as a corpse without life that you are prancing around on the road that leads to destruction.

If anything, by making you aware of your sin I have done you a kindness, a favor for which you can never repay. Now, because I have shown where right and wrong and judgment lie, there is no longer any excuse for your sin. If you want to live and have a remnant of a soul left you'll spend the rest of your days making amends for your sins.

See? I have given you a once a millennia opportunity to rise from the dead to eternal life in the sanctuary of God.

You're welcome!

 

[hobelim]

I see what the Word tells me, and it tells me that Jesus was fully capable of healing the blind and deaf, casting out demons and raising from the dead,

Apparently the words of Jesus haven't healed you. You've been judged by God as unworthy of the resurrection. This is the only rational explanation why you can't see the absurdity of worshipping a trinity that became a man.

As Jesus said, Two people will be jerking off in church, "One will be taken, the other left behind."

You do have my condolences.

 

[hadit]

Apparently the words of Jesus haven't healed you. You've been judged by God as unworthy of the resurrection.

This is the only rational explanation for why you cants see the absurdity of worshipping a trinity that became a mangod.

As Jesus said, Two people will be jerking off in church, "One will be taken, the other left behind."

You do have my condolences.

The mere fact that you pretending to quote Jesus but pervert what He said condemns you. I don't, and don't have to. You're doing it yourself. Get back to me when you're willing to read the Word as it is written and not like what you want it to say.

 

[ding]

Intolerance? Don't be silly. I have spoken the truth that anyone with eyes that see and ears that hear can verify for themselves if they peek inside of any Catholic Church on any given Sunday and watch the entire congregation brazenly and openly set aside the Law of God to get down on their knees to worship a trinity and eat a lifeless piece of bread MADE BY HUMAN HANDS for spiritual life even though it can neither see, hear, speak, or walk, has no spiritual life to give, is not the Actual Body of Christ, the teaching that Jesus received from God like bread from heaven, much less the flesh of God himself which is flat out irrational profane obscene and blasphemous.

You are as oblivious as a corpse without life that you are prancing around on the road that leads to destruction.

If anything, by making you aware of your sin I have done you a kindness, a favor for which you can never repay. Now, because I have shown where right and wrong and judgment lie, there is no longer any excuse for your sin.

If you have the tiniest remnant of a soul left you will spend the rest of your life correcting your perverted sins.

You're welcome!

100% intolerant. Read your posts.

 

[hobelim]

Get back to me when you're willing to read the Word as it is written and not like what you want it to say.

OK. Here I am.

So when Jesus said "If your right eye offends thee, pluck it out." the plain reading means to do just that? Thats what you are professing to believe? The simple literal meaning of the words? OK. Let me go and find a spoon..

Dimwit.

 

[hadit]

OK. Here I am.

So when Jesus said "If your right eye offends thee, pluck it out." the plain reading means to do just that? Thats what you are professing to believe? The simple literal meaning of the words? OK. Let me go and find a spoon..

Dimwit.

When He uses a phrase in common use at the time, you understand its meaning. If you're an actor getting ready to go on stage and I tell you to break a leg, do I mean I think you should really take a baseball bat to your own leg? No. If, OTOH, I tell you to perform flawlessly and impress the crowd, I mean exactly that. His contemporaries understood what He was talking about because we didn't see a rash of people maiming themselves, thinking they were following Jesus.

 

[ding]

OK. Here I am.

So when Jesus said "If your right eye offends thee, pluck it out." the plain reading means to do just that? Thats what you are professing to believe? The simple literal meaning of the words? OK. Let me go and find a spoon..

Dimwit.

Comparing parables to miracles is idiotic.

 

[Zebra]

Apparently the words of Jesus haven't healed you. You've been judged by God as unworthy of the resurrection. This is the only rational explanation why you can't see the absurdity of worshipping a trinity that became a man.

As Jesus said, Two people will be jerking off in church, "One will be taken, the other left behind."

You do have my condolences.

 

[ding]

Apparently the words of Jesus haven't healed you. You've been judged by God as unworthy of the resurrection. This is the only rational explanation why you can't see the absurdity of worshipping a trinity that became a man.

As Jesus said, Two people will be jerking off in church, "One will be taken, the other left behind."

You do have my condolences.

Get it out of your system, hater, before it consumes you from the inside out.

 

[hobelim]

When He uses a phrase in common use at the time, you understand its meaning. If you're an actor getting ready to go on stage and I tell you to break a leg, do I mean I think you should really take a baseball bat to your own leg? No. If, OTOH, I tell you to perform flawlessly and impress the crowd, I mean exactly that. His contemporaries understood what He was talking about because we didn't see a rash of people maiming themselves, thinking they were following Jesus.

You can't have it both ways. By the same reasoning every intelligent Jewish person who heard Jesus speak would have known the vernacular meaning of giving sight to the blind, raising the dead, the lame walking, etc.

Even Jesus himself confirmed that he was using figures of speech, (Jn 16:25) after all that nutty talk about coming down from heaven, unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood, "A time is coming, indeed it is already here, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and all who listen will come to life" etc., etc.

So there it is.

Listen, I have no interest in convincing you about anything, however wrong you are. You can worship a trinity till the day you die, again. I don't care. I am speaking with you for the benefit of others standing around, watching.

At this rate, between you and ding, even the most dedicated atheist will come to understand what scripture is talking about after seeing the astonishing and disturbing reality of what the authors called Divine condemnation.

Thanks to you two uncircumcised dickheads. So go on and lie in the name of God and desecrate the words of Jesus till kingdom come. I'm sure that you think there will be lots of presents waiting for you in heaven. Damn.



My hands have been washed clean.

 

[hadit]

You can't have it both ways. By the same reasoning every intelligent Jewish person who heard Jesus speak would have known the vernacular meaning of giving sight to the blind, raising the dead, the lame walking, etc.

They sure would, and they would also understand what their eyes and ears were telling them when Jesus healed the sick and raised the dead. Not only that, but they clearly understood exactly what Jesus meant when He said, "Before Abraham was, I AM". They tried to stone Him for it.

Even Jesus himself confirmed that he was using figures of speech, (Jn 16:25) after all that nutty talk about coming down from heaven, unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood, "A time is coming, indeed it is already here, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and all who listen will come to life" etc., etc.

So there it is.

What you apparently don't understand is that He also spoke directly and explained what He meant by the figures of speech He used. See, this is what happens when you only do a surface reading of the Word, looking to confirm what you already think instead of letting it speak to you.

Listen, I have no interest in convincing you about anything, however wrong you are. You can worship a trinity till the day you die, again. I don't care. I am speaking with you for the benefit of others standing around, watching.

At this rate, between you and ding, even the most dedicated atheist will come to understand what scripture is talking about after seeing the astonishing and disturbing reality of what the authors called Divine condemnation.

Thanks to you two uncircumcised dickheads. So go on and lie in the name of God and desecrate the words of Jesus till kingdom come. I'm sure that you think there will be lots of presents waiting for you in heaven. Damn.

My hands have been washed clean.

Let us know when you stop picking and choosing the parts of the Law you observe and the parts you ignore. For instance, obviously you care about circumcision and ruminates, but also obviously you don't offer animal sacrifices, or your HOA would stop you. Do you also make sure you don't mix fabrics in your clothes, and do you refuse to trim the corners of your beard?

 

[hobelim]

Let us know

HOW MANY OF YOU ARE THERE?

"You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving. For this people’s heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them." Isaiah 6:9-10

"He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts, nor turn—and I would heal them." John 12:40

In ancient times the belief was that consciousness was seated in the organ of the heart. It is now well known that consciousness is seated in the organ of the brain so whenever scripture is speaking about what goes on in the heart the subject is what is going on in the mind as in, "Blessed are the pure of mind for they shall see God."

If you ever hope to escape the hell your are in, existing without life, without God, in a delusion, and if you hope to "see" (understand) Jesus through the cacophony of hell you must first learn to say, Baruch haba b'shem Adonai.

 

[hobelim]

but also obviously you don't offer animal sacrifices, or your HOA would stop you.

Wow.

In full view of heaven and earth I have openly sacrificed a he-goat "without blemish" for the expiation of sin. It was oblivious you, and no one even tried to stop me as you were being slaughtered in the kindest way possible.

In fact a multitude of people are rejoicing and feasting right now on the flesh stripped from your broken bones.

Now you know.

 

[hadit]

HOW MANY OF YOU ARE THERE?

I post for all who read what I have to say, and there are those who agree with me.

"You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving. For this people’s heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them." Isaiah 6:9-10

See that in front of you? It's a mirror.

"He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts, nor turn—and I would heal them." John 12:40

In ancient times the belief was that consciousness was seated in the organ of the heart. It is now well known that consciousness is seated in the organ of the brain so whenever scripture is speaking about what goes on in the heart the subject is what is going on in the mind as in, "Blessed are the pure of mind for they shall see God."

The heart as spoken of is not the intellect. They are not the same thing.

If you ever hope to escape the hell your are in, existing without life, without God, in a delusion, and if you hope to "see" (understand) Jesus through the cacophony of hell you must first learn to say, Baruch haba b'shem Adonai.

Like I've said before, you clearly pick and choose which parts of the Law you're going to follow and which you're going to ignore. You worry about circumcision and ruminates but have no problem mixing fabrics on your clothes and violating the Sabbath. When you run into something in the Law you don't like, you just insert your own words and interpretations so you can ignore what it says. When you don't like something Scripture writers have to say, you just dismiss them as not credible.

Basically, you have set yourself up as God, twisting His Word to make it say what it does not.

 

[hadit]

Wow.

In full view of heaven and earth I have openly sacrificed a he-goat "without blemish" for the expiation of sin. It was oblivious you, and no one even tried to stop me as you were being slaughtered in the kindest way possible.

In fact a multitude of people are rejoicing and feasting right now on the flesh stripped from your broken bones.

Now you know.

Hmmm. What did your HOA have to say about you slaughtering a goat and burning it in your backyard?

Interesting that you seem to think one animal sacrifice absolves you of all sin when you continue sinning to this day. How often do you sacrifice goats?

 

[hobelim]

Hmmm. What did your HOA have to say about you slaughtering a goat and burning it in your backyard?

Interesting that you seem to think one animal sacrifice absolves you of all sin when you continue sinning to this day. How often do you sacrifice goats?

Ahem.

Clearly you don't know what you are talking about. Me sacrificing a he-goat like YOU is for the expiation of sin, to do away with sin. Not my sin, I have no need to be forgiven, I always do exactly as God commands, but sin itself, the errors of the "faithful" who, for when they learn to not sin, death will cease to exist and there will be no more curse for defying Divine Law, the curse, a death that you so perfectly demonstrate to the terror of all who see it.

 

[hadit]

Ahem.

Clearly you don't know what you are talking about. Me sacrificing a he-goat like you is for the expiation of sin, to do away with sin.

Yet the High Priest had to offer sacrifices over and over again for the sin of the people. The sacrifice never did away with sin, unlike the sacrifice of God in the flesh, Yeshua.

Not my sin, I always do exactly as God commands, but the errors, sins, of the faithful who when they learn to not sin, death will cease to exist and there will be no more curse for defying Divine Law, the curse, a death, that you so perfectly demonstrate to the terror of all who see it.

And there I know you are a liar because you claim you "always do exactly as God commands". Does God command you to pervert His Word? Does He command you to ignore the Apostles and what they wrote? I'll answer for you. No, He does not.

Tell us again what parts of the Law you ignore because they are inconvenient. Have you stoned any young people for disrespecting their parents lately? Have you stoned anyone caught in adultery?