Zone1 why do some Protestants think that only they are Christians and the Catholics are not?

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Translation: I can't dispute a single thing you said so I'll just attack you personally.

Thank you. I knew I was right. Thanks for playing.

You are a waste of time.

 

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Yes I did answer his question. And, I assure you, this is no game. This is not a drill. This is judgment day.

And here it is.....

"To answer your question. Can God act supernaturally or not? Yes. But not in the way that you believe in your deluded unrestrained imagination.

That’s a no. That’s not a yes. You seem to be stuck.

 

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I don’t know about that. There is some evidence to support it to a degree.

As for me, my suggested possible answers to the OP questions were not and are not intended to denigrate Catholicism. My wife and two now grown children were raised Catholic. And, like many religions and faiths, it has its obvious virtues. In my estimation, most people raised with a religious upbringing tend to end up as good people.

Trust me. It’s like politics. Unenlightened people need something or someone to hate.

 

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Ask ding.

I don't have a lot of patience for your type of crazy. I admire your commitment to it, but I have no desire to get tangled up in it.

What? You don’t like subversives?

 

[hadit]

there is their problem - they have no evidence of the resurrection to present as the romans would have rearrested their prisoner and reasserted their authority - the confrontation never occurred.

The Scripture is clear, the soldiers were rendered unconscious when the angel rolled the stone away. In fact, it is their very inability to present anyone captured that lends credence to Him resurrecting and leaving the grave under His own power. His disciples, for example, could not have stolen the dead body. They didn't have to.

 

[hadit]

I quoted scripture that reveals, as it is actually written, that Jesus cured a blindness of perception, not sight. Yet you have failed to acknowledge this truth which makes you the object of ridicule. You are doing this to yourself.

As blind as you are, pretending to see. Its laughable. Seriously how hard is it for a believer to believe that they've been blinded since birth by a brood of vipers? How painful could it possibly be for you to admit that I'm right?

However painful it may be, if you to continue to deny what is the irrefutable truth the pain will only get worse.

Flat out, the Scripture doesn't say that. You have to immediately insert your own interpretation to make it say anything like what you want it to say.

 

[BreezeWood]

The Scripture is clear, the soldiers were rendered unconscious when the angel rolled the stone away. In fact, it is their very inability to present anyone captured that lends credence to Him resurrecting and leaving the grave under His own power. His disciples, for example, could not have stolen the dead body. They didn't have to.

they would have been rearrested the entire garrison would be looking for him, no need to hide - there is no account of a city wide search ... there is no resurrection.

 

[hobelim]

Flat out, the Scripture doesn't say that

Lets test that. I'll spit in your eyes and then you tell me what you see. You will see nothing with spit in your eyes.

Does this shock you?

When Jesus spit in the mans eyes and asked him what he saw, first the man saw trees walking around, then he saw men. Jesus was teaching the man how to use his imagination in a rational way, how to think rationally, how to 'see' in his mind, as in scripture men are often represented by trees. It was a healing of perception, not sight.

Now run along.

Obviously you're not interested in "seeing". You just parrot what you've been brainwashed into believing by rote.

 

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Lets test that. I'll spit in your eyes and then you tell me what you see. You will see nothing with spit in your eyes.

Does this shock you?

When Jesus spit in the mans eyes and asked him what he saw, first the man saw trees walking around, then he saw men. Jesus was teaching the man how to use his imagination in a rational way, how to think rationally, how to 'see' in his mind, as in scripture men are often represented by trees. It was a healing of perception, not sight.

Now run along.

Obviously you're not interested in "seeing". You just parrot what you've been brainwashed into believing by rote.

You aren’t God. Jesus is. That’s why the first Christians worshipped Jesus as God because Jesus did things that only God could do.

 

[hobelim]

You aren’t God. Jesus is. That’s why the first Christians worshipped Jesus as God because Jesus did things that only God could do.

I didn't claim to be God. Jesus isn't God and never claimed to be God. Those are facts. Another fact is if anyone spit in anyones eyes they would see nothing with their eyes. Even without spit in your eye you see nothing. Damn

 

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I didn't claim to be God. Jesus isn't God and never claimed to be God. Those are facts. Another fact is if anyone spit in anyones eyes they would see nothing with their eyes. Even without spit in your eye you see nothing. Damn

I never said you claimed to be God. You just act like you think you are God. But you aren’t God so your spit will do nothing. Not the case for Jesus though.

• Blind Man's Sight:
  In John 9:1-7, Jesus spits on the ground, makes mud with the saliva, and applies it to a blind man's eyes. He then instructs the man to wash in the Pool of Siloam, which results in the man receiving his sight.
  
  
• Another Blind Man:
  In Mark 8:22-26, Jesus spits on a blind man's eyes and then touches him, leading to a partial restoration of sight. After another touch, the man's sight is fully restored.
• Deaf and Mute Man:
  In Mark 7:31-37, Jesus uses his fingers to touch the man's ears and his own saliva to touch the man's tongue. He then looks up to heaven and says, "Ephphatha," which means "Be opened," and the man's ears and speech are restored.

These instances of Jesus using saliva were not random acts, but rather purposeful actions within the cultural context of the time. Saliva was believed to have healing properties, and using it could have been a way for Jesus to demonstrate his power and authority to those witnessing the miracles. Some scholars also suggest that Jesus's use of saliva might be a symbolic reference to the creation story in Genesis, where God creates man from dust and breath.

 

[hobelim]

Some scholars also suggest

And some scholars understand the Jewish context of the story where it is well known that the subject of blindness is the blindness that you so perfectly demonstrate, a blindness of perception not sight, by failing to include the glaring truth of reality as a constraint in your, let's call it, thinking. And the truth is that whether you have made great errors in your own speculations or whether you were deceived yourself, to mislead others amounts to intentional murder in the same way that Jesus meant by saying, "Satan was a murderer from the beginning.", even though Satan, the talking serpent, literally didn't kill anyone, at least according to the fairy tale.

Are you against abortion? Do you have children? Did you teach them to be idolators? If so you aborted the natural development of their minds, their very souls. You sacrificed your own children to Moloch, murderer, condemning them to a life of confusion and unspeakable suffering, easy prey for every evil bastard out there.

 

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And some scholars understand the Jewish context of the story where it is well known that the subject of blindness is the blindness that you so perfectly demonstrate, a blindness of perception not sight, by failing to include the glaring truth of reality as a constraint in your, let's call it, thinking. And the truth is that whether you have made great errors in your own speculations or whether you were deceived yourself, to mislead others amounts to intentional murder in the same way that Jesus meant by saying, "Satan was a murderer from the beginning.", even though Satan, the talking serpent, literally didn't kill anyone, at least according to the fairy tale.

That’s not what the accounts recorded. There is nothing in the account that suggests Jesus wasn’t performing miracles. If it was as you say there would be evidence that Jesus didn’t perform miracles. There are no competing manuscripts.

 

[hobelim]

That’s not what the accounts recorded. There is nothing in the account that suggests Jesus wasn’t performing miracles. If it was as you say there would be evidence that Jesus didn’t perform miracles. There are no competing manuscripts.

I don't care who wrote what, when, or what some profess to believe. There never was and never will be a human being that was God or became God either before during or after their human existence. All of those supernatural miracles of Jesus are all the attending signs and "miracles of the lie" that scripture is to be taken literally.

 

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Are you against abortion? Do you have children? Did you teach them to be idolators? If so you aborted the natural development of the minds, their very souls. You sacrificed your own children to Moloch, murderer, condemning them to a life of confusion and unspeakable suffering, easy prey for every evil bastard out there.

Spoken like a raving mad religious lunatic.

 

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Are you against abortion? Do you have children? Did you teach them to be idolators? If so you aborted the natural development of the minds, their very souls. You sacrificed your own children to Moloch, murderer, condemning them to a life of confusion and unspeakable suffering, easy prey for every evil bastard out there.

Jesus was crucified for sorcery and blasphemy.

Why do you believe Jesus was crucified?

The first Christians witnessed the many miracles performed by Jesus and after he rose from the dead worshiped Jesus as God.

When do you say Jesus was first worshiped as God and why?

 

[hobelim]

Jesus was crucified for sorcery and blasphemy.

Why do you believe Jesus was crucified?

The first Christians witnessed the many miracles performed by Jesus and after he rose from the dead worshiped Jesus as God.

When do you say Jesus was first worshiped as God and why?

Seriously? Is this your first day? Those questions have been asked and answered. Is your brain malfunctioning?

That's a shame.

 

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Seriously? Is this your first day? Those questions have been asked and answered. Is your brain malfunctioning?

That's a shame.

Yes, seriously.

Jesus was crucified for sorcery and blasphemy.

Why do you believe Jesus was crucified?

The first Christians witnessed the many miracles performed by Jesus and after he rose from the dead worshiped Jesus as God.

When do you say Jesus was first worshiped as God and why?

 

[hobelim]

Yes, seriously.

Jesus was crucified for sorcery and blasphemy.

Why do you believe Jesus was crucified?

The first Christians witnessed the many miracles performed by Jesus and after he rose from the dead worshiped Jesus as God.

When do you say Jesus was first worshiped as God and why?

Great questions! If you want answers from me, go back and read what I already wrote. It will change your life.

As it already has.

 

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Great questions! If you want answers from me, go back and read what I already wrote. It will change your life.

As it already has.

You never answered them. Why was Jesus crucified?