Why do pro choicers get upset when...

[koshergrl]

If a woman doesn't want to take the risk of going through a pregnancy and delivery and/or raising a child, that is her own personal decision. As long as she has the abortion done in a timely manner before it is actually a "baby."

Oh yawn. Can you spew any more repetitive nonsense, you brainwashed dolt?

 

[ChrisL]

If a woman doesn't want to take the risk of going through a pregnancy and delivery and/or raising a child, that is her own personal decision. As long as she has the abortion done in a timely manner before it is actually a "baby."

Oh yawn. Can you spew any more repetitive nonsense, you brainwashed dolt?

Hey, it's all true. People have to stop sticking their nose into other people's business and worry about themselves. Concentrate on making yourself a better person.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Where on earth did you get that silly idea?

From his nether regions.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Abortion can have some pretty negative effects on a baby's body too. Killing another person should not be a "personal decision" imho.

But it is not your decision to make for another person. It has nothing to do with you.

Whether you get killed tonight has nothing to do with me either. But I support laws to help keep you safe and punish anyone who does you harm.

Looking out for those who are too weak to look after themselves is everyone's business.

No, because it is the woman who has to pay the price health wise, etc., it is her own personal decision. Besides, if she doesn't want to have a baby and would even contemplate abortion, then she is probably not going to be a very good or responsible parent. And again, it is not your decision. It is not your body.

Doesn't matter. Someone doesn't have to rape me before I have a say in rape laws.

But I would assume the baby should have a say - who is speaking out for the baby? I believe that if the health of the mother is threatened, an abortion should be allowed. In the same spirit as our self-defense laws.

The "baby" is part of the mother's body. The mother has a say in what happens to her body. Pregnancy can have some serious long-lasting complications. If a woman does not want to have a baby, then she doesn't have to. It's her choice, not yours. It's her body, not yours. It's her that will have to pay the price, not you.

Actually it's the child who is paying the price. I believe that any human being is entitled to protection under our legal system. And all Americans have a say in when these rights are extended and who they should cover.

I understand the inequities of human procreation. If there is a way to level that playing field, I would gladly listen to those suggestions. But as noted before, a person's right to do whatever he or she chooses with her body never has been an absolute right. It ends where it affects another human being.

 

[Derideo_Te]

A woman decides NOT to get an abortion? It is my belief that they are not pro choice after all. They are pro death.

Yes, and the pro-abortion crowd also can't stand the idea of merely requiring a woman to view a sonogram image of her baby, so that she'll understand that she's not just getting rid of some piece of tissue, before she has him or her aborted.

"But an 'invasive procedure' is required to get some sonogram images!" Uh, it's no more "invasive" than an abortion! And you guys whine even when the sonogram images come from exterior sonogram scans.

"You're trying to make these poor women feel guilty!" Gee, imagine that--feeling guilty over killing a defenseless baby! Shocking!

The abortion lobby reminds me of the slavery apologists in the 1850s who forbade abolitionists from protesting at slave sales, lest the slave traders and their buyers "be made to feel guilty over exercising their rights."

Anyone who supports abortion is evil! They're no better than the Nazi's.

Godwin's law! Check!

You are about as predictable as sunset!

 

[ChrisL]

But it is not your decision to make for another person. It has nothing to do with you.

Whether you get killed tonight has nothing to do with me either. But I support laws to help keep you safe and punish anyone who does you harm.

Looking out for those who are too weak to look after themselves is everyone's business.

No, because it is the woman who has to pay the price health wise, etc., it is her own personal decision. Besides, if she doesn't want to have a baby and would even contemplate abortion, then she is probably not going to be a very good or responsible parent. And again, it is not your decision. It is not your body.

Doesn't matter. Someone doesn't have to rape me before I have a say in rape laws.

But I would assume the baby should have a say - who is speaking out for the baby? I believe that if the health of the mother is threatened, an abortion should be allowed. In the same spirit as our self-defense laws.

The "baby" is part of the mother's body. The mother has a say in what happens to her body. Pregnancy can have some serious long-lasting complications. If a woman does not want to have a baby, then she doesn't have to. It's her choice, not yours. It's her body, not yours. It's her that will have to pay the price, not you.

Actually it's the child who is paying the price. I believe that any human being is entitled to protection under our legal system. And all Americans have a say in when these rights are extended and who they should cover.

I understand the inequities of human procreation. If there is a way to level that playing field, I would gladly listen to those suggestions. But as noted before, a person's right to do whatever he or she chooses with her body never has been an absolute right. It ends where it affects another human being.

No, you cannot make that decision for a woman. That is her own personal decision, whether she wants to go through a pregnancy or not. It's not your decision to make for another person. Like I said, some of these women getting abortions are drug addicts, prostitutes, alcoholics, mentally unstable, etc.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Concentrate on making yourself a better person

Now that is a lost cause if ever there was one!

 

[nodoginnafight]

Whether you get killed tonight has nothing to do with me either. But I support laws to help keep you safe and punish anyone who does you harm.

Looking out for those who are too weak to look after themselves is everyone's business.

No, because it is the woman who has to pay the price health wise, etc., it is her own personal decision. Besides, if she doesn't want to have a baby and would even contemplate abortion, then she is probably not going to be a very good or responsible parent. And again, it is not your decision. It is not your body.

Doesn't matter. Someone doesn't have to rape me before I have a say in rape laws.

But I would assume the baby should have a say - who is speaking out for the baby? I believe that if the health of the mother is threatened, an abortion should be allowed. In the same spirit as our self-defense laws.

The "baby" is part of the mother's body. The mother has a say in what happens to her body. Pregnancy can have some serious long-lasting complications. If a woman does not want to have a baby, then she doesn't have to. It's her choice, not yours. It's her body, not yours. It's her that will have to pay the price, not you.

Actually it's the child who is paying the price. I believe that any human being is entitled to protection under our legal system. And all Americans have a say in when these rights are extended and who they should cover.

I understand the inequities of human procreation. If there is a way to level that playing field, I would gladly listen to those suggestions. But as noted before, a person's right to do whatever he or she chooses with her body never has been an absolute right. It ends where it affects another human being.

No, you cannot make that decision for a woman. That is her own personal decision, whether she wants to go through a pregnancy or not. It's not your decision to make for another person. Like I said, some of these women getting abortions are drug addicts, prostitutes, alcoholics, mentally unstable, etc.

So if someone is raping you - then only you and the rapist have any say in that matter, huh? Because it doesn't affect anyone else?

That's a tired old argument that has been debunked a long time ago.

Protecting those who are too weak to protect themselves is one of the main reasons to write laws. I believe our laws should protect all humans who fall under our jurisdiction.

 

[ChrisL]

No, because it is the woman who has to pay the price health wise, etc., it is her own personal decision. Besides, if she doesn't want to have a baby and would even contemplate abortion, then she is probably not going to be a very good or responsible parent. And again, it is not your decision. It is not your body.

Doesn't matter. Someone doesn't have to rape me before I have a say in rape laws.

But I would assume the baby should have a say - who is speaking out for the baby? I believe that if the health of the mother is threatened, an abortion should be allowed. In the same spirit as our self-defense laws.

The "baby" is part of the mother's body. The mother has a say in what happens to her body. Pregnancy can have some serious long-lasting complications. If a woman does not want to have a baby, then she doesn't have to. It's her choice, not yours. It's her body, not yours. It's her that will have to pay the price, not you.

Actually it's the child who is paying the price. I believe that any human being is entitled to protection under our legal system. And all Americans have a say in when these rights are extended and who they should cover.

I understand the inequities of human procreation. If there is a way to level that playing field, I would gladly listen to those suggestions. But as noted before, a person's right to do whatever he or she chooses with her body never has been an absolute right. It ends where it affects another human being.

No, you cannot make that decision for a woman. That is her own personal decision, whether she wants to go through a pregnancy or not. It's not your decision to make for another person. Like I said, some of these women getting abortions are drug addicts, prostitutes, alcoholics, mentally unstable, etc.

So if someone is raping you - then only you and the rapist have any say in that matter, huh? Because it doesn't affect anyone else?

That's a tired old argument that has been debunked a long time ago.

Protecting those who are too weak to protect themselves is one of the main reasons to write laws. I believe our laws should protect all humans who fall under our jurisdiction.

WHAT? That doesn't even make sense. Sorry, but whether or not a woman goes through a pregnancy is her decision. That's all there is to it. Mind YOUR business and don't get an abortion if you don't want to.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Protecting those who are too weak to protect themselves is one of the main reasons to write laws. I believe our laws should protect all humans who fall under our jurisdiction.

Really?

So you support laws that would keep guns out of the hands of crazies like the one who murdered 20 children at Sandy Hook?

 

[nodoginnafight]

Doesn't matter. Someone doesn't have to rape me before I have a say in rape laws.

But I would assume the baby should have a say - who is speaking out for the baby? I believe that if the health of the mother is threatened, an abortion should be allowed. In the same spirit as our self-defense laws.

The "baby" is part of the mother's body. The mother has a say in what happens to her body. Pregnancy can have some serious long-lasting complications. If a woman does not want to have a baby, then she doesn't have to. It's her choice, not yours. It's her body, not yours. It's her that will have to pay the price, not you.

Actually it's the child who is paying the price. I believe that any human being is entitled to protection under our legal system. And all Americans have a say in when these rights are extended and who they should cover.

I understand the inequities of human procreation. If there is a way to level that playing field, I would gladly listen to those suggestions. But as noted before, a person's right to do whatever he or she chooses with her body never has been an absolute right. It ends where it affects another human being.

No, you cannot make that decision for a woman. That is her own personal decision, whether she wants to go through a pregnancy or not. It's not your decision to make for another person. Like I said, some of these women getting abortions are drug addicts, prostitutes, alcoholics, mentally unstable, etc.

So if someone is raping you - then only you and the rapist have any say in that matter, huh? Because it doesn't affect anyone else?

That's a tired old argument that has been debunked a long time ago.

Protecting those who are too weak to protect themselves is one of the main reasons to write laws. I believe our laws should protect all humans who fall under our jurisdiction.

WHAT? That doesn't even make sense. Sorry, but whether or not a woman goes through a pregnancy is her decision. That's all there is to it. Mind YOUR business and don't get an abortion if you don't want to.

If you believe a fetus is a human being, and you believe all human beings are entitled to protection under our legal system, then we all have a say.

The rape analogy is to illustrate that a crime doesn't have to happen to me before I have a right to my say in how we as Americans handle it. I'm sorry that went over your head. You keep repeating the same simple-minded arguments that just - honestly - do not hold water.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Protecting those who are too weak to protect themselves is one of the main reasons to write laws. I believe our laws should protect all humans who fall under our jurisdiction.

Really?

So you support laws that would keep guns out of the hands of crazies like the one who murdered 20 children at Sandy Hook?

Yup - but what has that got to do with this topic?

 

[rdean]

A woman decides NOT to get an abortion? It is my belief that they are not pro choice after all. They are pro death.

You think people are trying to talk women into GETTING an abortion? This is why right wingers are mentally ill. They imagine something so sick and at the same time, they will say "It's not MY kid. Why should I have to feed it. Let it starve". We see this attitude because those sick ***** will cut school lunches. Cut food stamps for children. Block children from health care and education. And try to keep children from receiving life saving vaccines.

The reason they accuse the other side of trying to talk women into abortions is because they feel the other side must be as sick as they are. Well they aren't. Right wingers are sick all on their own. A special kind of meanness. A lack of sympathy. No morals.

If you have to get your morals out of a book, then you don't really have any to begin with.

 

[ChrisL]

The "baby" is part of the mother's body. The mother has a say in what happens to her body. Pregnancy can have some serious long-lasting complications. If a woman does not want to have a baby, then she doesn't have to. It's her choice, not yours. It's her body, not yours. It's her that will have to pay the price, not you.

Actually it's the child who is paying the price. I believe that any human being is entitled to protection under our legal system. And all Americans have a say in when these rights are extended and who they should cover.

I understand the inequities of human procreation. If there is a way to level that playing field, I would gladly listen to those suggestions. But as noted before, a person's right to do whatever he or she chooses with her body never has been an absolute right. It ends where it affects another human being.

No, you cannot make that decision for a woman. That is her own personal decision, whether she wants to go through a pregnancy or not. It's not your decision to make for another person. Like I said, some of these women getting abortions are drug addicts, prostitutes, alcoholics, mentally unstable, etc.

So if someone is raping you - then only you and the rapist have any say in that matter, huh? Because it doesn't affect anyone else?

That's a tired old argument that has been debunked a long time ago.

Protecting those who are too weak to protect themselves is one of the main reasons to write laws. I believe our laws should protect all humans who fall under our jurisdiction.

WHAT? That doesn't even make sense. Sorry, but whether or not a woman goes through a pregnancy is her decision. That's all there is to it. Mind YOUR business and don't get an abortion if you don't want to.

If you believe a fetus is a human being, and you believe all human beings are entitled to protection under our legal system, then we all have a say.

The rape analogy is to illustrate that a crime doesn't have to happen to me before I have a right to my say in how we as Americans handle it. I'm sorry that went over your head. You keep repeating the same simple-minded arguments that just - honestly - do not hold water.

Sorry, you are wrong. It's not your decision to make. If a woman doesn't want to go through a pregnancy, then she should never be forced. That is WRONG.

 

[ChrisL]

The "baby" is part of the mother's body. The mother has a say in what happens to her body. Pregnancy can have some serious long-lasting complications. If a woman does not want to have a baby, then she doesn't have to. It's her choice, not yours. It's her body, not yours. It's her that will have to pay the price, not you.

Actually it's the child who is paying the price. I believe that any human being is entitled to protection under our legal system. And all Americans have a say in when these rights are extended and who they should cover.

I understand the inequities of human procreation. If there is a way to level that playing field, I would gladly listen to those suggestions. But as noted before, a person's right to do whatever he or she chooses with her body never has been an absolute right. It ends where it affects another human being.

No, you cannot make that decision for a woman. That is her own personal decision, whether she wants to go through a pregnancy or not. It's not your decision to make for another person. Like I said, some of these women getting abortions are drug addicts, prostitutes, alcoholics, mentally unstable, etc.

So if someone is raping you - then only you and the rapist have any say in that matter, huh? Because it doesn't affect anyone else?

That's a tired old argument that has been debunked a long time ago.

Protecting those who are too weak to protect themselves is one of the main reasons to write laws. I believe our laws should protect all humans who fall under our jurisdiction.

WHAT? That doesn't even make sense. Sorry, but whether or not a woman goes through a pregnancy is her decision. That's all there is to it. Mind YOUR business and don't get an abortion if you don't want to.

If you believe a fetus is a human being, and you believe all human beings are entitled to protection under our legal system, then we all have a say.

The rape analogy is to illustrate that a crime doesn't have to happen to me before I have a right to my say in how we as Americans handle it. I'm sorry that went over your head. You keep repeating the same simple-minded arguments that just - honestly - do not hold water.

It is up to each individual woman if she wants to risk her health.

CDC - Pregnancy Complications - Reproductive Health

Pregnancy symptoms and complications can range from mild and annoying discomforts to severe, sometimes life-threatening, illnesses. Sometimes it can be difficult for a woman to determine which symptoms are normal and which are not. Problems during pregnancy may include physical and mental conditions that affect the health of the mother or the baby. These problems can be caused by or can be made worse by being pregnant. Many problems are mild and do not progress; however, when they do, they may harm the mother or her baby.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Actually it's the child who is paying the price. I believe that any human being is entitled to protection under our legal system. And all Americans have a say in when these rights are extended and who they should cover.

I understand the inequities of human procreation. If there is a way to level that playing field, I would gladly listen to those suggestions. But as noted before, a person's right to do whatever he or she chooses with her body never has been an absolute right. It ends where it affects another human being.

No, you cannot make that decision for a woman. That is her own personal decision, whether she wants to go through a pregnancy or not. It's not your decision to make for another person. Like I said, some of these women getting abortions are drug addicts, prostitutes, alcoholics, mentally unstable, etc.

So if someone is raping you - then only you and the rapist have any say in that matter, huh? Because it doesn't affect anyone else?

That's a tired old argument that has been debunked a long time ago.

Protecting those who are too weak to protect themselves is one of the main reasons to write laws. I believe our laws should protect all humans who fall under our jurisdiction.

WHAT? That doesn't even make sense. Sorry, but whether or not a woman goes through a pregnancy is her decision. That's all there is to it. Mind YOUR business and don't get an abortion if you don't want to.

If you believe a fetus is a human being, and you believe all human beings are entitled to protection under our legal system, then we all have a say.

The rape analogy is to illustrate that a crime doesn't have to happen to me before I have a right to my say in how we as Americans handle it. I'm sorry that went over your head. You keep repeating the same simple-minded arguments that just - honestly - do not hold water.

Sorry, you are wrong. It's not your decision to make. If a woman doesn't want to go through a pregnancy, then she should never be forced. That is WRONG.

I respect you and your right to your position. I disagree however. If a woman doesn't want to stay married, so she kills her husband - we all have a say in how that will be handled.

When a woman's choice affects another human being, then I'm sorry - other people are going to stick their nose in.

 

[ChrisL]

No, you cannot make that decision for a woman. That is her own personal decision, whether she wants to go through a pregnancy or not. It's not your decision to make for another person. Like I said, some of these women getting abortions are drug addicts, prostitutes, alcoholics, mentally unstable, etc.

So if someone is raping you - then only you and the rapist have any say in that matter, huh? Because it doesn't affect anyone else?

That's a tired old argument that has been debunked a long time ago.

Protecting those who are too weak to protect themselves is one of the main reasons to write laws. I believe our laws should protect all humans who fall under our jurisdiction.

WHAT? That doesn't even make sense. Sorry, but whether or not a woman goes through a pregnancy is her decision. That's all there is to it. Mind YOUR business and don't get an abortion if you don't want to.

If you believe a fetus is a human being, and you believe all human beings are entitled to protection under our legal system, then we all have a say.

The rape analogy is to illustrate that a crime doesn't have to happen to me before I have a right to my say in how we as Americans handle it. I'm sorry that went over your head. You keep repeating the same simple-minded arguments that just - honestly - do not hold water.

Sorry, you are wrong. It's not your decision to make. If a woman doesn't want to go through a pregnancy, then she should never be forced. That is WRONG.

I respect you and your right to your position. I disagree however. If a woman doesn't want to stay married, so she kills her husband - we all have a say in how that will be handled.

When a woman's choice affects another human being, then I'm sorry - other people are going to stick their nose in.

Nope, it's up to the woman. Her choice.

 

[Mr.Right]

Actually it's the child who is paying the price. I believe that any human being is entitled to protection under our legal system. And all Americans have a say in when these rights are extended and who they should cover.

I understand the inequities of human procreation. If there is a way to level that playing field, I would gladly listen to those suggestions. But as noted before, a person's right to do whatever he or she chooses with her body never has been an absolute right. It ends where it affects another human being.

No, you cannot make that decision for a woman. That is her own personal decision, whether she wants to go through a pregnancy or not. It's not your decision to make for another person. Like I said, some of these women getting abortions are drug addicts, prostitutes, alcoholics, mentally unstable, etc.

So if someone is raping you - then only you and the rapist have any say in that matter, huh? Because it doesn't affect anyone else?

That's a tired old argument that has been debunked a long time ago.

Protecting those who are too weak to protect themselves is one of the main reasons to write laws. I believe our laws should protect all humans who fall under our jurisdiction.

WHAT? That doesn't even make sense. Sorry, but whether or not a woman goes through a pregnancy is her decision. That's all there is to it. Mind YOUR business and don't get an abortion if you don't want to.

If you believe a fetus is a human being, and you believe all human beings are entitled to protection under our legal system, then we all have a say.

The rape analogy is to illustrate that a crime doesn't have to happen to me before I have a right to my say in how we as Americans handle it. I'm sorry that went over your head. You keep repeating the same simple-minded arguments that just - honestly - do not hold water.

Sorry, you are wrong. It's not your decision to make. If a woman doesn't want to go through a pregnancy, then she should never be forced. That is WRONG.

Aren't you glad your mother didn't abort you? Others were not so lucky.

 

[ChrisL]

No, you cannot make that decision for a woman. That is her own personal decision, whether she wants to go through a pregnancy or not. It's not your decision to make for another person. Like I said, some of these women getting abortions are drug addicts, prostitutes, alcoholics, mentally unstable, etc.

So if someone is raping you - then only you and the rapist have any say in that matter, huh? Because it doesn't affect anyone else?

That's a tired old argument that has been debunked a long time ago.

Protecting those who are too weak to protect themselves is one of the main reasons to write laws. I believe our laws should protect all humans who fall under our jurisdiction.

WHAT? That doesn't even make sense. Sorry, but whether or not a woman goes through a pregnancy is her decision. That's all there is to it. Mind YOUR business and don't get an abortion if you don't want to.

If you believe a fetus is a human being, and you believe all human beings are entitled to protection under our legal system, then we all have a say.

The rape analogy is to illustrate that a crime doesn't have to happen to me before I have a right to my say in how we as Americans handle it. I'm sorry that went over your head. You keep repeating the same simple-minded arguments that just - honestly - do not hold water.

Sorry, you are wrong. It's not your decision to make. If a woman doesn't want to go through a pregnancy, then she should never be forced. That is WRONG.

Aren't you glad your mother didn't abort you? Others were not so lucky.

If she did, I wouldn't know one way or the other.

 

[rightwinger]

You don't want women to get an abortion?

Then eliminate her reason for getting one. Provide free birth control, Provide full neonatal coverage, make sure she doesn't lose her income, pay for childcare and supplement her income while her child is young

If you vote against those things, than stop bitching about abortion