Why do pro choicers get upset when...

[amrchaos]

Question

Don't most women choose not to get an abortion?

 

[bodecea]

A woman decides NOT to get an abortion? It is my belief that they are not pro choice after all. They are pro death.

What's upsetting about that?

 

[bodecea]

A woman decides NOT to get an abortion? It is my belief that they are not pro choice after all. They are pro death.

Give us some examples. Pro-choice means exactly that. Without evidence your statement is meaningless.

Hello troll. The evidence is out there. Just Google it. It's not my job to educate your ignorant ass.

In other words, it is a lie. Thought so.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I wonder if the veteran USMB nutters appreciate it when a new "conservative" with obvious limitations...like the OP.....shows up.

There has got to be some eye rolling going on.

 

[rightwinger]

I wonder if the veteran USMB nutters appreciate it when a new "conservative" with obvious limitations...like the OP.....shows up.

There has got to be some eye rolling going on.

I doubt if they even notice

 

[ChrisL]

Personally, I would never have an abortion. If I was in a situation where I could not afford to take care of the child, or whatever the circumstances might be, I would have the child and put it up for adoption.

However, I don't believe in making personal decisions for other women. It's their bodies and their lives, not mine. While I wish more would consider adoption, there is nothing I can do to FORCE a person into going through a pregnancy, delivery, etc.

Funny thing about the conservatives who are anti abortion, wanting all of these women to have their babies. Do they think of the consequences? Do they realize that some of these children will end up as wards of the state, and then their precious tax money will be used to care for these unwanted babies? Also, some of these women and their babies will end up on welfare, and then their precious tax dollars will have to support them?

I think some (not all) conservatives want to punish women for having sex, but what they do not realize is that it is usually the innocent child that will pay the price. IMO, a person who does not want to have the child is going to be a crappy parent.

 

[BlueGin]

A woman decides NOT to get an abortion? It is my belief that they are not pro choice after all. They are pro death.

no one gets upset when someone DOESN'T have an abortion. is that what the voices in your head told you?

people who are pro choice just want idiots like you to get your nose out of other people's business.

But, if they want birth control. It's my business and I got to pay for it.

No it's not your business and no, you aren't paying for it. It's part of women's health insurance so the women are paying for it through their premiums and co-pays.

You are simply being asked to butt out.

Riiiight. Because their premiums and co-pays cover the entire expense of what they subsequently use in medical care, ALWAYS. And that's assuming we're talking about women with health insurance rather than Medicaid in the first place.

And naturally, you desperately want to focus only on the finances to avoid the REAL question at issue.

The odds of a single (pregnant)woman not being on Medicaid is slim to none.

 

[amrchaos]

(sarcasm)

I think some one mentioned "post birth" abortion?

I could go for that--especially when the child is past the age of 18 and still living under my roof and constantly disrespecting me like he owned the place...Post birth abortion sounds pretty damn good, you know?

Is it really taking a life if the jack--s doesn't have a life?

 

[nodoginnafight]

Chris L.:
"I think some (not all) conservatives want to punish women for having sex, but what they do not realize is that it is usually the innocent child that will pay the price."

So not killing the child forces the child to "pay a price."

I understand your arguments and I sympathize with the inequities that are inherent in human reproduction. If there is any way to level that playing field - I'm all ears.

But a person's right to do as they wish with their body - ends when their actions harm another human being.

 

[ChrisL]

Chris L.:
"I think some (not all) conservatives want to punish women for having sex, but what they do not realize is that it is usually the innocent child that will pay the price."

So not killing the child forces the child to "pay a price."

I understand your arguments and I sympathize with the inequities that are inherent in human reproduction. If there is any way to level that playing field - I'm all ears.

But a person's right to do as they wish with their body - ends when their actions harm another human being.

Not really because pregnancy can have some very negative effects on a person's body. It's a personal decision and not for anyone else to make. No one should be forced to be a parent.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Chris L.:
"I think some (not all) conservatives want to punish women for having sex, but what they do not realize is that it is usually the innocent child that will pay the price."

So not killing the child forces the child to "pay a price."

I understand your arguments and I sympathize with the inequities that are inherent in human reproduction. If there is any way to level that playing field - I'm all ears.

But a person's right to do as they wish with their body - ends when their actions harm another human being.

Not really because pregnancy can have some very negative effects on a person's body. It's a personal decision and not for anyone else to make. No one should be forced to be a parent.

Abortion can have some pretty negative effects on a baby's body too. Killing another person should not be a "personal decision" imho.

 

[ChrisL]

Chris L.:
"I think some (not all) conservatives want to punish women for having sex, but what they do not realize is that it is usually the innocent child that will pay the price."

So not killing the child forces the child to "pay a price."

I understand your arguments and I sympathize with the inequities that are inherent in human reproduction. If there is any way to level that playing field - I'm all ears.

But a person's right to do as they wish with their body - ends when their actions harm another human being.

Not really because pregnancy can have some very negative effects on a person's body. It's a personal decision and not for anyone else to make. No one should be forced to be a parent.

Abortion can have some pretty negative effects on a baby's body too. Killing another person should not be a "personal decision" imho.

But it is not your decision to make for another person. It has nothing to do with you.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Chris L.:
"I think some (not all) conservatives want to punish women for having sex, but what they do not realize is that it is usually the innocent child that will pay the price."

So not killing the child forces the child to "pay a price."

I understand your arguments and I sympathize with the inequities that are inherent in human reproduction. If there is any way to level that playing field - I'm all ears.

But a person's right to do as they wish with their body - ends when their actions harm another human being.

Not really because pregnancy can have some very negative effects on a person's body. It's a personal decision and not for anyone else to make. No one should be forced to be a parent.

Abortion can have some pretty negative effects on a baby's body too. Killing another person should not be a "personal decision" imho.

But it is not your decision to make for another person. It has nothing to do with you.

Whether you get killed tonight has nothing to do with me either. But I support laws to help keep you safe and punish anyone who does you harm.

Looking out for those who are too weak to look after themselves is everyone's business.

 

[ChrisL]

Chris L.:
"I think some (not all) conservatives want to punish women for having sex, but what they do not realize is that it is usually the innocent child that will pay the price."

So not killing the child forces the child to "pay a price."

I understand your arguments and I sympathize with the inequities that are inherent in human reproduction. If there is any way to level that playing field - I'm all ears.

But a person's right to do as they wish with their body - ends when their actions harm another human being.

Not really because pregnancy can have some very negative effects on a person's body. It's a personal decision and not for anyone else to make. No one should be forced to be a parent.

Abortion can have some pretty negative effects on a baby's body too. Killing another person should not be a "personal decision" imho.

But it is not your decision to make for another person. It has nothing to do with you.

Whether you get killed tonight has nothing to do with me either. But I support laws to help keep you safe and punish anyone who does you harm.

Looking out for those who are too weak to look after themselves is everyone's business.

No, because it is the woman who has to pay the price health wise, etc., it is her own personal decision. Besides, if she doesn't want to have a baby and would even contemplate abortion, then she is probably not going to be a very good or responsible parent. And again, it is not your decision. It is not your body.

 

[ChrisL]

If a woman doesn't want to take the risk of going through a pregnancy and delivery and/or raising a child, that is her own personal decision. As long as she has the abortion done in a timely manner before it is actually a "baby."

 

[nodoginnafight]

Chris L.:
"I think some (not all) conservatives want to punish women for having sex, but what they do not realize is that it is usually the innocent child that will pay the price."

So not killing the child forces the child to "pay a price."

I understand your arguments and I sympathize with the inequities that are inherent in human reproduction. If there is any way to level that playing field - I'm all ears.

But a person's right to do as they wish with their body - ends when their actions harm another human being.

Not really because pregnancy can have some very negative effects on a person's body. It's a personal decision and not for anyone else to make. No one should be forced to be a parent.

Abortion can have some pretty negative effects on a baby's body too. Killing another person should not be a "personal decision" imho.

But it is not your decision to make for another person. It has nothing to do with you.

Whether you get killed tonight has nothing to do with me either. But I support laws to help keep you safe and punish anyone who does you harm.

Looking out for those who are too weak to look after themselves is everyone's business.

No, because it is the woman who has to pay the price health wise, etc., it is her own personal decision. Besides, if she doesn't want to have a baby and would even contemplate abortion, then she is probably not going to be a very good or responsible parent. And again, it is not your decision. It is not your body.

Doesn't matter. Someone doesn't have to rape me before I have a say in rape laws.

But I would assume the baby should have a say - who is speaking out for the baby? I believe that if the health of the mother is threatened, an abortion should be allowed. In the same spirit as our self-defense laws.

 

[ChrisL]

Not really because pregnancy can have some very negative effects on a person's body. It's a personal decision and not for anyone else to make. No one should be forced to be a parent.

Abortion can have some pretty negative effects on a baby's body too. Killing another person should not be a "personal decision" imho.

But it is not your decision to make for another person. It has nothing to do with you.

Whether you get killed tonight has nothing to do with me either. But I support laws to help keep you safe and punish anyone who does you harm.

Looking out for those who are too weak to look after themselves is everyone's business.

No, because it is the woman who has to pay the price health wise, etc., it is her own personal decision. Besides, if she doesn't want to have a baby and would even contemplate abortion, then she is probably not going to be a very good or responsible parent. And again, it is not your decision. It is not your body.

Doesn't matter. Someone doesn't have to rape me before I have a say in rape laws.

But I would assume the baby should have a say - who is speaking out for the baby? I believe that if the health of the mother is threatened, an abortion should be allowed. In the same spirit as our self-defense laws.

The "baby" is part of the mother's body. The mother has a say in what happens to her body. Pregnancy can have some serious long-lasting complications. If a woman does not want to have a baby, then she doesn't have to. It's her choice, not yours. It's her body, not yours. It's her that will have to pay the price, not you.

 

[ChrisL]

Some of these women might be drug abusers, abusive people, mentally unstable, any number of things.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Why won't planned parenthood allow women to view abortion videos when they go in for abortions?

Would you want to be forced to watch a video when you needed an x-ray or had your teeth cleaned?

And no, it isn't about money because PP is a non profit organization.

 

[Derideo_Te]

A woman decides NOT to get an abortion? It is my belief that they are not pro choice after all. They are pro death.

Progressivism is all about death and population control. If they believed in life they would be opposed to abortion.

Ironic coming from those who support crazy people being allowed unfettered access to guns.