Why Do People Support Trump?

[Jroc]

What do you think Hillary will actually accomplish that Trump would not do?

Appoint 2 or 3 radical, leftist, judges to the supreme court .If Trump wins Indiana its over. and you Trump haters will have to get out of the way, and let the rest of us defeat Hillary. if you people don't want to help in that cause? You should stand down, and let the rest of us take care of business

 

[Markle]

I see here and elsewhere people who otherwise identify and conservative or Republican or both. Yet if you asked them even 9 months ago, would you support a life long Democrat who favors single payer healthcare, favors use of eminent domain for private gain, favors abortion, and has never held office they would answer a resounding NO.
And yet here they are supporting Trump, who is all those things and more. A man with professed intentions to commit war crimes, an idiot on foreign policy, a serial adulterer, a man who plays footsie with racists.
How to explain this?

Conservatives don't want brown people in this country and Trump was the first one to make a big deal out of deporting the brown people so all is forgiven

How many thousands lost their pensions and savings because of Trump bankruptcies? Don't worry. We'll find out in the General Election.

Trump doesn't have the Federal reserve to let him avoid bankruptcy like the US government does. Where would all the entitlement programs be without the Feds being able to go into perpetual debt? They'd be bankrupt, just like Trumps companies. Only difference- Trump gave them jobs to start with.

Trump bankrupted numerous companies. How do you think he'd do with access to unlimited money?

Wow, of all the businesses he has started along with all his real estate developments, FOUR of his corporations went bankrupt.

How many businesses did Lame Duck President Obama start and employed thousands before he went in government? How about Clinton's and Bernie Sanders?

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Obama--Hope and Change
Trump-Make America Great Again

Two sides of the same coin.

Only one is an establishment whore.

That might be the most unintentionally hilarious statement ever made in this message board.

Explain yourself.

You don't think a man who inherited $100 million dollars and has spent his whole life hobnobbing with the elites in Palm Beach and Manhattan - who has, by his own admission, used his money to influence politics - is an "establishment whore"?

Can he be bought? It's one thing to buy influence,it's another to be bought.

Of course he can be bought - anyone can be bought.

 

[TemplarKormac]

For immigration: Which laws should we be enforcing that we're ? Be specific, cite the legal codes.

I just addressed that.

For terrorism: Who should we kill? Again, be specific - and tell me how killing those people will "eliminate" terrorism.

First, Al-Qaeda, ISIS, the Taliban and all other affiliated elements whose sole purpose is to threaten America and the western world. Second, terrorism can't be completely eliminated, but the threat it poses can.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

For immigration: Which laws should we be enforcing that we're ? Be specific, cite the legal codes.

I just addressed that.

For terrorism: Who should we kill? Again, be specific - and tell me how killing those people will "eliminate" terrorism.

First, Al-Qaeda, ISIS, the Taliban and all other affiliated elements whose sole purpose is to threaten America and the western world. Second, terrorism can't be completely eliminated, but the threat it poses can.

Where are all these people that you think should be killed? How should we kill them? Will there be collateral damage? How much will it cost, in terms of money and troops? Will the collateral damage inspire more terrorists? How will mass killings eliminate the threat posed by terrorism?

 

[ninja007]

I see here and elsewhere people who otherwise identify and conservative or Republican or both. Yet if you asked them even 9 months ago, would you support a life long Democrat who favors single payer healthcare, favors use of eminent domain for private gain, favors abortion, and has never held office they would answer a resounding NO.
And yet here they are supporting Trump, who is all those things and more. A man with professed intentions to commit war crimes, an idiot on foreign policy, a serial adulterer, a man who plays footsie with racists.
How to explain this?

Conservatives don't want brown people in this country and Trump was the first one to make a big deal out of deporting the brown people so all is forgiven

typical. Trump wants illegals out- regardless of color. Why do you lie?

 

[theDoctorisIn]

ISIS, Al Qaeda, the Taliban, etc - they're not the causes of terrorism, they're symptoms of something else. Indiscriminate slaughter won't "cure" terrorism any more than an Advil will "cure" a toothache.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

I see here and elsewhere people who otherwise identify and conservative or Republican or both. Yet if you asked them even 9 months ago, would you support a life long Democrat who favors single payer healthcare, favors use of eminent domain for private gain, favors abortion, and has never held office they would answer a resounding NO.
And yet here they are supporting Trump, who is all those things and more. A man with professed intentions to commit war crimes, an idiot on foreign policy, a serial adulterer, a man who plays footsie with racists.
How to explain this?

Conservatives don't want brown people in this country and Trump was the first one to make a big deal out of deporting the brown people so all is forgiven

typical. Trump wants illegals out- regardless of color. Why do you lie?

Of course, cause we've all heard Trump talking about Swedish "murderers and rapists", right?

 

[ninja007]

I see here and elsewhere people who otherwise identify and conservative or Republican or both. Yet if you asked them even 9 months ago, would you support a life long Democrat who favors single payer healthcare, favors use of eminent domain for private gain, favors abortion, and has never held office they would answer a resounding NO.
And yet here they are supporting Trump, who is all those things and more. A man with professed intentions to commit war crimes, an idiot on foreign policy, a serial adulterer, a man who plays footsie with racists.
How to explain this?

Conservatives don't want brown people in this country and Trump was the first one to make a big deal out of deporting the brown people so all is forgiven

typical. Trump wants illegals out- regardless of color. Why do you lie?

Of course, cause we've all heard Trump talking about Swedish "murderers and rapists", right?

let me repeat this slowly- he wants ILLEGALS out.

 

[Markle]

The appeal of populism is that it gives "easy" answers to the problems that anger the ignorant masses.

Ignorant huh? I'm offended.

I voted for the man and I'm FAR from ignorant. Most of the so called "solutions" taken by our legislators have been too complex. Trying to apply complex solutions to simple problems. That is bound to fail.

And so we're ignorant because we want a more direct approach to policy? This is quite infuriating to be looked down on as ignorant for supporting someone like Trump.

Not all of us are blind fools or mindless automatons. Yes, we're angry, for far more complicated reasons. Perhaps that's why so many of us support him, because people take such elitist attitudes towards who we support. It may not even matter why we support the man, there will always be people looking down their noses at us calling us ignorant.

I didn't say that everyone who voted for Trump was ignorant, I said that populism appeals to the ignorant.

As for what you said - there's no such thing as a "simple" problem, and that's the whole point. Trump isn't offering a "direct" approach to policy, he's literally offering an ignorant approach to policy - an approach to policy that just doesn't understand how the world works.

There is no simple solution to immigration, it's a complicated problem. There is no simple solution to terrorism, it's a complicated problem. There is no simple solution to "bringing jobs back to America", it's a complicated problem. There's no simple solution to trade policy, it's a complicated problem.

And so on.

Immigration is a political football. They are welcome by both parties because they drive down the cost of labor.

The fact is, Obama has done more to stop illegal immigration than any other president. Trump claims he will do more but it's all BS.

You do have a sense of humor!

If, in some way you believe he has, the only possible reason is that he has crashed the economy with the slowest recovery in history. Also, Lame Duck President Obama now holds the dubious record of not having a single year where the GDP increased by 3% or more. The first quarter this year, as you know is a measly .5%.

 

[Jroc]

There is a slight flaw in your premise when you ask, "Why do people support Trump?" People don't support Trump. Republicans support Trump.

Trump is a criminal and Republican voters love criminals.

Yes, I understand that he's the front runner even though he's being investigated by the FBI and may be indicted in the near future. Those Republicans love criminals.

Trump University and the ensuing fraud will nail him and I doubt that too many Republicans will run interference for him.

That's is a civil case, there's no criminal case against Trump you idiot

WRONG AGAIN! It was criminal fraud you pathetic moron.
Trump University: How Bad Are the Charges Against Trump ...

Defrauding people and using the US mail and FCC regulated stations to do it is a criminal act.

Fraud - Criminal Law - FindLaw

Trump committed state and federal crimes. Fraud is a crime.

You let me know when Trump's been indicted for fraud...Idiot

 

[skye]

In my opinion, people support Trump because they are sick and tired of that cesspool that is the establishment political system.

Both left and right.

Same reason they support Bern.

 

[Markle]

Well I think you are underestimating the portion that want it fixed compared to those that want it to remain the same, and you are seeing the effect of ignoring them. When people are ignored they become desperate and don't care, they want change and will deviate from the norm to try and achieve it.

What is the "it" that you (and this portion of the population you claim to speak for) want "fixed"?

Be specific.

Standard of living has been declining in many areas for some time. Do you deny this?

You'll have to be more specific than that. What do you mean by "standard of living"? In what "areas" is it declining?

The part that's declining is the part that appears on your paycheck, doofus.

Speak for yourself, clown. My paychecks have gone up the last few years - maybe you should be working harder?

Average income for workers has dropped the past seven years by $3,000.00. The reason is simple, the jobs replacing those lost in the recession, are lower-paying jobs.

 

[Markle]

In my opinion, people support Trump because they are sick and tired of that cesspool that is the establishment political system.

Both left and right.

Same reason they support Bern.

I disagree. Socialist Bernie Sanders support comes from Millennials. He has promised to wipe out their school loan obligation and provide for FREE COLLEGE and no responsibility.

 

[Markle]

[ Conservatives are for open immigration.

How can you deny it? Amnesty has been the order of the day since Reagan.

President Reagan was lied to by Democrats who promised to immigration reform and tightening the Southern border. Never trust a Progressive.

 

[skye]

In my opinion, people support Trump because they are sick and tired of that cesspool that is the establishment political system.

Both left and right.

Same reason they support Bern.

I disagree. Socialist Bernie Sanders support comes from Millennials. He has promised to wipe out their school loan obligation and provide for FREE COLLEGE and no responsibility.

I support Trump

But Bernie is also a breath of fresh air....among this corrupt establishment crooks.

Yes. Left and Right.

 

[WheelieAddict]

What is the "it" that you (and this portion of the population you claim to speak for) want "fixed"?

Be specific.

Standard of living has been declining in many areas for some time. Do you deny this?

You'll have to be more specific than that. What do you mean by "standard of living"? In what "areas" is it declining?

The part that's declining is the part that appears on your paycheck, doofus.

Speak for yourself, clown. My paychecks have gone up the last few years - maybe you should be working harder?

Average income for workers has dropped the past seven years by $3,000.00. The reason is simple, the jobs replacing those lost in the recession, are lower-paying jobs.

While the financial industry and other businesses are bailed out to the tune of billions. The middle class is still waiting for the benefit of saving those vultures.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

[ Conservatives are for open immigration.

How can you deny it? Amnesty has been the order of the day since Reagan.

President Reagan was lied to by Democrats who promised to immigration reform and tightening the Southern border. Never trust a Progressive.

Both sides have said that since Reagan.
The last midterms are a prime example.
You need to wake up,neither side gives a **** about Americans.

 

[Deleted member 53821]

I see here and elsewhere people who otherwise identify and conservative or Republican or both. Yet if you asked them even 9 months ago, would you support a life long Democrat who favors single payer healthcare, favors use of eminent domain for private gain, favors abortion, and has never held office they would answer a resounding NO.
And yet here they are supporting Trump, who is all those things and more. A man with professed intentions to commit war crimes, an idiot on foreign policy, a serial adulterer, a man who plays footsie with racists.
How to explain this?

I think Harry Reid would give a man a blow job if he promised to vote for him.

 

[TemplarKormac]

The appeal of populism is that it gives "easy" answers to the problems that anger the ignorant masses.

What's complicated about illegal immigration? Simply enforce the law. That's the only thing you need to know.

Which laws?

Be specific, and cite the parts of federal criminal code that you're referring to.

Let's begin with this one, which states plainly the process by which aliens are granted citizenship to the US.

8 U.S. Code § 1181 - Admission of immigrants into the United States

This one should have kept the illegal immigrant who killed Kate Steinle from entering the US. But nope. Sanctuary cities.

8 U.S. Code § 1182 - Inadmissible aliens

And this one

8 U.S. Code § 1227 - Deportable aliens

Or this one

8 U.S. Code § 1231 - Detention and removal of aliens ordered removed

Or this one

8 U.S. Code § 1302 - Registration of aliens

And this one

8 U.S. Code § 1321 - Prevention of unauthorized landing of aliens

And this one

8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien

Or this one

8 U.S. Code § 1326 - Reentry of removed aliens

Ok, good. Now we've got some laws to work with. Now, all you have to do is show which ones aren't being enforced.

Let's take Juan Francisco Lopez-Sanchez (the suspected murderer of Kate Steinle) as an example.

Which of those laws do you believe were not enforced?

As for the ones not enforced in Steinle's case, see the ones with arrow, for the other ones take your pick:

8 USC 1181(a)

8 USC 1182(a)(10)(h)(2)<----

8 USC 1227(a)(2)(A)(iii) and (a)(2)(B)(i)<----

8 USC 1231(a)(1)(A), and (a)(2)

8 USC 1302(a) and (b)

8 USC 1321(a)

8 USC 1325(a)

8 USC 1326(a)(2) and (c)