Why do liberals hate Christianity ?

[Freewill]

There is no such thing as freedom from religion.

Of course there is. No one can force you to be in a religion in this country .. yet.

Are you really that worried about Islam?

Christianity has been the predominate religion since the revolution and it actually waning in influence. So you must really be worried that the Muslims might take over and we all know what happens then. Just look at Iraq.

 

[Pogo]

PC mentality. If a few atheists are OFFENDED by a Christian symbol then it must be destroyed. Even though the many are not offended.

Liberals attack the cross all the time. I consider the ACLU to be the new kkk. Their attacks on a War Memorial Cross being a prime example.

Now here is logic for you. A church wants a Nativity scene in a public park. The ACLU files against it to prevent it. Citing Separation of Church and state. So the church doesn't do it. Yet in the same park, they allow a permit for nudist to be in the same park with their wankers hanging out.

Right is left. Left is right. Up is down. and down is up to a liberal.

Now get me some popcorn. Should be the usual BS.

We've established that some posters here clearly don't understand what "Liberal" means; here's one who doesn't know the definition of "wanker". SMH...

 

[Plasmaball]

Because we can...

 

[Pogo]

Wrong!!!!!

Oh. OH. I see. Now that you've essplained and picked apart the salient points I see where my logic was flawed. Of course, what was I thinking. Thanks for that deep, profound, excruciatingly detailed background. My head swims.

His made more sense then yours. He disagreed with your position without stating why. You made a statement backed by absolutely nothing and were insulting in so doing. But that is what is to be expected when one can't debate like a rational person.

Don't think so Homes. I pointed out your blanket statement fallacy and then corrected your phony religious-base bullshit. His counter was, and I quote, "Wrong!!!!!". That's simple gainsaying, the argument of a four-year-old.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

What species are you then?

HUMANISM -- But you knew what I was referring to already.. You just wanted to be a dickhead.. Congrats.

But a human dickhead. What kind of dickhead are you? I'm interested in cross-species breeding.

Oh and feel free to define "humanism" if you insist on opening that box. And let me know what its antonym is.

Here you go stupid
hu·man·ism [hyoo-muh-niz-uhm or, often, yoo-] Show IPA
noun
1.
any system or mode of thought or action in which human interests, values, and dignity predominate.
2.
devotion to or study of the humanities.
3.
( sometimes initial capital letter ) the studies, principles, or culture of the humanists.
4.
Philosophy . a variety of ethical theory and practice that emphasizes reason, scientific inquiry, and human fulfillment in the natural world and often rejects the importance of belief in God.

 

[Political Junky]

There is no such thing as freedom from religion.

Of course there is. No one can force you to be in a religion in this country .. yet.

Are you really that worried about Islam?

Christianity has been the predominate religion since the revolution and it actually waning in influence. So you must really be worried that the Muslims might take over and we all know what happens then. Just look at Iraq.

Not Islam, but the Right Wing Christians, yes.

 

[JakeStarkey]

they rarely say anything bad about Islam, they will even label someone who does as hateful, racist, or intolerant,but when it comes to Christianity a lot of liberals do not hesitate to tout the so called evils of the Christian faith ....Why ??

That is a hasty generalization with no support.

The far right social cons are not the only Christians at all and certainly do not define it.

Go head to UCC or Episcopal or so many Christian churches, and one will find real Christianity in action.

 

[Pogo]

Also note that while the Federal government was barred from favoring one denomination over another, nearly all the states at the time indeed had state religions; all of the delegates to the Constitutional Convention represented states that had official religions, or most of them did. It wasn't until decades later that the last state favored religion was voted out, and that was because of demographic changes, i.e. the original denomination's voting base became outnumbered by immigrants with different religions. It is just wrong to claim The Founders were proposing freedom from religion; it was just impossible with so many different state religions for any compromise on what would be the Federal governments favored religion. People also need to get over the idea that Thomas Jefferson and deists were the only Founders.

What state had a state religion??

Are you actually suggesting with a straight face that the reason the First Amendment exists is that we had so many state religions it was impossible to pick one? You're going with the "betcha can't eat just one" theory? Really??

 

[Pogo]

HUMANISM -- But you knew what I was referring to already.. You just wanted to be a dickhead.. Congrats.

But a human dickhead. What kind of dickhead are you? I'm interested in cross-species breeding.

Oh and feel free to define "humanism" if you insist on opening that box. And let me know what its antonym is.

Here you go stupid
hu·man·ism [hyoo-muh-niz-uhm or, often, yoo-] Show IPA
noun
1.
any system or mode of thought or action in which human interests, values, and dignity predominate.
2.
devotion to or study of the humanities.
3.
( sometimes initial capital letter ) the studies, principles, or culture of the humanists.
4.
Philosophy . a variety of ethical theory and practice that emphasizes reason, scientific inquiry, and human fulfillment in the natural world and often rejects the importance of belief in God.

No no, I have Google just as everybody else does. That's not my question.

I want YOUR definition.

-- Or do you want to go with the above? ('scuse me, I'm drooling in anticipation....)

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

But a human dickhead. What kind of dickhead are you? I'm interested in cross-species breeding.

Oh and feel free to define "humanism" if you insist on opening that box. And let me know what its antonym is.

Here you go stupid
hu·man·ism [hyoo-muh-niz-uhm or, often, yoo-] Show IPA
noun
1.
any system or mode of thought or action in which human interests, values, and dignity predominate.
2.
devotion to or study of the humanities.
3.
( sometimes initial capital letter ) the studies, principles, or culture of the humanists.
4.
Philosophy . a variety of ethical theory and practice that emphasizes reason, scientific inquiry, and human fulfillment in the natural world and often rejects the importance of belief in God.

No no, I have Google just as everybody else does. That's not my question.

I want YOUR definition.

-- Or do you want to go with the above? ('scuse me, I'm drooling in anticipation....)

You're not very bright are you? Those of us who actually attended school, you know the place you go to get edumucated- and went on to college, VOCABULARY was something we studied throughout.. which is the reason why I used the term humanism in regard to Atheists because it applies you ******* bozo. Now, if you want to play patty-cake with definitions.. Here's one for ya: Femi-Testes- The liberals scrotum that curls up like a ******* noodle whenever confronted by a Conservative female.

 

[Erand7899]

Is this satire? Or are you this clueless?

Clueless, those who founded the US were quite radical in their time.

The term radical is usually applied to extreme liberals.

The term reactionary applies to extreme conservatives.

So you have effectively admitted that the founders were liberals.

Actually, you have effectively admitted that you are not well educated. The founders were liberals, clasic liberals, who had nothing in common with modern progressives who like to think they are liberal, and call themselves liberal.

Reactionary is a Socialist term that is used to describe those who do not buy into the idiocy that is Socialism. Modern Liberal/socialists like to use that term for right wingers for two reasons. First, they think it demeans conservatives, and second, they think it makes themselves appear intelligent. They are wrong on both counts.

 

[Lakhota]

Christianity is simply a fairy tale. Actually, it's a copycat fairy tale.

10 Christ-like Figures Who Pre-Date Jesus - Listverse

So that is your reason for your hate and fear?


Sent from my iPad using an Android.

Look, Christianity is based on ONE book written by superstitious old goat/sheepherders. ONE book. How can that be taken seriously? I admit that some guy named Jesus may have existed, but I consider all the other supernatural stuff to be pure bullshit. If there is a Sky Daddy, it certainly isn't the vicious one depicted in the Old Testament.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Reactionary is an excellent definition used by the responsible right to the responsible left to identify the political thugs of the far and social con right. Errand is just one example of the thuggery's revisionism.

The Founders had no intention of letting any of the sectarians create a nationally established religion for that would have led to the end of the classically liberal republic and its foundations.

All state churches were gone by 1830.

The far and social con reactionary right has been trying to revise American history, unsuccessfully, for fifty years. And they will keep failing.

And so will the atheist left with their magical thinking that they are not faith believers.

 

[Pogo]

Here you go stupid
hu·man·ism [hyoo-muh-niz-uhm or, often, yoo-] Show IPA
noun
1.
any system or mode of thought or action in which human interests, values, and dignity predominate.
2.
devotion to or study of the humanities.
3.
( sometimes initial capital letter ) the studies, principles, or culture of the humanists.
4.
Philosophy . a variety of ethical theory and practice that emphasizes reason, scientific inquiry, and human fulfillment in the natural world and often rejects the importance of belief in God.

No no, I have Google just as everybody else does. That's not my question.

I want YOUR definition.

-- Or do you want to go with the above? ('scuse me, I'm drooling in anticipation....)

You're not very bright are you? Those of us who actually attended school, you know the place you go to get edumucated- and went on to college, VOCABULARY was something we studied throughout.. which is the reason why I used the term humanism in regard to Atheists because it applies you ******* bozo. Now, if you want to play patty-cake with definitions.. Here's one for ya: Femi-Testes- The liberals scrotum that curls up like a ******* noodle whenever confronted by a Conservative female.

So you're going with the posted book definition. Excellent! (/dons bib)...

1. any system or mode of thought or action in which human interests, values, and dignity predominate.

We (on this side) are all humans. What other interests would predominate? Anteater interests? What's your species?

2. devotion to or study of the humanities.

Humanities are cultural study involving the real as opposed to the abstract. But we're not talking studies...

3. ( sometimes initial capital letter ) the studies, principles, or culture of the humanists

Ruh roh, circular definition...

4. Philosophy . a variety of ethical theory and practice that emphasizes reason, scientific inquiry, and human fulfillment in the natural world and often rejects the importance of belief in God.

Ah, finally paydirt.

What's your opposition to "reason"? What's the alternative -- unreason?

Scientific inquiry - same question...

Human fulfillment in the natural world -- again, that's what the rest of us are. Belief in God doesn't serve any of that, so it's just not a factor.


To quote The Dick Cheney:

"So?"

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

No no, I have Google just as everybody else does. That's not my question.

I want YOUR definition.

-- Or do you want to go with the above? ('scuse me, I'm drooling in anticipation....)

You're not very bright are you? Those of us who actually attended school, you know the place you go to get edumucated- and went on to college, VOCABULARY was something we studied throughout.. which is the reason why I used the term humanism in regard to Atheists because it applies you ******* bozo. Now, if you want to play patty-cake with definitions.. Here's one for ya: Femi-Testes- The liberals scrotum that curls up like a ******* noodle whenever confronted by a Conservative female.

So you're going with the posted book definition. Excellent! (/dons bib)...



We (on this side) are all humans. What other interests would predominate? Anteater interests? What's your species?



Humanities are cultural study involving the real as opposed to the abstract. But we're not talking studies...

3. ( sometimes initial capital letter ) the studies, principles, or culture of the humanists

Ruh roh, circular definition...

4. Philosophy . a variety of ethical theory and practice that emphasizes reason, scientific inquiry, and human fulfillment in the natural world and often rejects the importance of belief in God.

Ah, finally paydirt.

What's your opposition to "reason"? What's the alternative -- unreason?

Scientific inquiry - same question...

Human fulfillment in the natural world -- again, that's what the rest of us are. Belief in God doesn't serve any of that, so it's just not a factor.


To quote The Dick Cheney:

"So?"

It took you 20 minutes to come up with that shit?? You're out of your league boy.. Don't waste my time.

 

[Pogo]

Clueless, those who founded the US were quite radical in their time.

The term radical is usually applied to extreme liberals.

The term reactionary applies to extreme conservatives.

So you have effectively admitted that the founders were liberals.

Actually, you have effectively admitted that you are not well educated. The founders were liberals, clasic liberals, who had nothing in common with modern progressives who like to think they are liberal, and call themselves liberal.

Who?

What the **** is a "Progressive"? I've been asking that for months on here, have yet to get an answer. Derideo_Te is right in his definition of Liberal; all you've done is try to muddy the water with "progressives" -- who were actually around a century ago.

Reactionary is a Socialist term that is used to describe those who do not buy into the idiocy that is Socialism. Modern Liberal/socialists like to use that term for right wingers for two reasons. First, they think it demeans conservatives, and second, they think it makes themselves appear intelligent. They are wrong on both counts.

Yes, your strawman is wrong. Why did you bring him in?

 

[Pogo]

You're not very bright are you? Those of us who actually attended school, you know the place you go to get edumucated- and went on to college, VOCABULARY was something we studied throughout.. which is the reason why I used the term humanism in regard to Atheists because it applies you ******* bozo. Now, if you want to play patty-cake with definitions.. Here's one for ya: Femi-Testes- The liberals scrotum that curls up like a ******* noodle whenever confronted by a Conservative female.

So you're going with the posted book definition. Excellent! (/dons bib)...



We (on this side) are all humans. What other interests would predominate? Anteater interests? What's your species?



Humanities are cultural study involving the real as opposed to the abstract. But we're not talking studies...



Ruh roh, circular definition...

4. Philosophy . a variety of ethical theory and practice that emphasizes reason, scientific inquiry, and human fulfillment in the natural world and often rejects the importance of belief in God.

Ah, finally paydirt.

What's your opposition to "reason"? What's the alternative -- unreason?

Scientific inquiry - same question...

Human fulfillment in the natural world -- again, that's what the rest of us are. Belief in God doesn't serve any of that, so it's just not a factor.


To quote The Dick Cheney:

"So?"

It took you 20 minutes to come up with that shit?? You're out of your league boy.. Don't waste my time.

Can't answer huh?

Didn't think so. Well that didn't take long. Next...

 

[Peach]

Is this satire? Or are you this clueless?

Clueless, those who founded the US were quite radical in their time.

The term radical is usually applied to extreme liberals.

The term reactionary applies to extreme conservatives.

So you have effectively admitted that the founders were liberals.

As the term is used today, still tough to pigeonhole all of the people who were part of the rebellion. They also differed on religion, from the faithful Adams, to the questioning Jefferson, to the agnostic Franklin. And Adams, among others, was against slavery; Jefferson torn, but lived in his times. He wrote a volume or so on the subject. Jefferson was out of the country through most of the convention, but got his two cents in through others; fist fights broke out, the question of slavery the hottest issue. Jefferson believed it would die out as an institution, Adams thought that wasn't quick enough, but gritted his teeth, as the southern states were necessary to form the union. Their letters to each other are fascinating.

Abigail Adams was so radical, she brought up the subject of women voting! Revolutionaries at their finest.

 

[Kosh]

Clueless, those who founded the US were quite radical in their time.

The term radical is usually applied to extreme liberals.

The term reactionary applies to extreme conservatives.

So you have effectively admitted that the founders were liberals.

As the term is used today, still tough to pigeonhole all of the people who were part of the rebellion. They also differed on religion, from the faithful Adams, to the questioning Jefferson, to the agnostic Franklin. And Adams, among others, was against slavery; Jefferson torn, but lived in his times. He wrote a volume or so on the subject. Jefferson was out of the country through most of the convention, but got his two cents in through others; fist fights broke out, the question of slavery the hottest issue. Jefferson believed it would die out as an institution, Adams thought that wasn't quick enough, but gritted his teeth, as the southern states were necessary to form the union. Their letters to each other are fascinating.

Abigail Adams was so radical, she brought up the subject of women voting! Revolutionaries at their finest.

Far left history revision at it's finest!

 

[Ibentoken]

There is no such thing as freedom from religion.

As an American I am entitled to be free of having religion imposed upon me by the state. That is what freedom FROM religion means.

It also means that no one else with a religious agenda can use the state to impose their beliefs on me. That applies to things such as when life begins and who gets to marry whom.

My right to freedom from religion means that those who hold religious views cannot pervert the secular state for their own purposes.

Yeah, I've heard the line. It's BS strawman argument. What you really mean is you want to remove religious symbols and monuments from federal, state, county, and municipal governments. Isn't that right.