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Stalin knew more about the Manhattan Project than VP Truman did.

Was totally blindsided.
 
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FDR was practically a dictator for 12 years.

Hid his polio from the public.

Tried to cook the Supreme Court.

Was asleep at theswtich re Pearl Harbor.
put inoncent US citizens in concentration camps.

Did not make any effort to bomb Nazi death camps.

Didnt tell VP Truman about the ABomb project.

Other than that put him on Mt Rushmore.

A lucky president who got to deal with big issues.

WHAT CLINTON HOPED FOR.
 

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World War II was in full swing in 1943 and Truman was chairing a Senate committee on possible war profiteering committed by American defense plants. In the process of investigating war-production expenditures, Truman stumbled upon a suspicious plant in the state of Washington and asked the plant managers to testify in front of the committee. When Stimson, one of a handful of people who knew about the highly classified Manhattan Project, heard about Truman's line of questioning, he immediately acted to prevent the Missouri senator from blowing the biggest military secret in world history. On June 17, Truman received a phone call from Stimson, who told him that the Pasco plant was "part of a very important secret development." Before Stimson could continue, Truman assured the secretary "you won t have to say another word to me. Whenever you say that [something is highly secret] to me that's all I want to hear. If [the plant] is for a specific purpose and you think it's all right, that's all I need to know." America's secret development of the atomic bomb began in 1939, with then-President Franklin Roosevelt's support. Even after Truman became Roosevelt's fourth-term vice president in 1944, the project remained such a tightly controlled secret that Roosevelt did not even inform Truman that it existed.

FDR's secretary of war stifles Truman's inquiry into suspicious defense plant; History.com This Day in History; 6/17/1943
 
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FDR was arguably our WORST president and we have endured many bad ones.

He did not tell the war criminal Truman about the a-bomb because he was a fool, egotist, in ill health, and considered Truman a dunce....even though he was also a dunce.

I believe from about 1943 until his death, Stalin's Stooge was incapable to performing the duties of the presidency due to his health. His doctor had him working only 4 hours a day. He took numerous VACATIONS in the hope of improving his health, all while America was dealing with WWII....though being incapable might have been a good thing, since had he managed the war, he likely would have screwed it up just as he did the Great Depression. Yet, the arrogant asshole ran for a FOURTH TERM in '44 barely able to stand or speak.

And remember, all this was concealed from the American public.

The political class duped the American people just as they are doing today. Amazingly it continues to work.
 
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FDR got away with murder - none of his shanigans would pass muster today.
 

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FDR was arguably our WORST president and we have endured many bad ones.

He did not tell the war criminal Truman about the a-bomb because he was a fool, egotist, in ill health, and considered Truman a dunce....even though he was also a dunce.

I believe from about 1943 until his death, Stalin's Stooge was incapable to performing the duties of the presidency due to his health. His doctor had him working only 4 hours a day. He took numerous VACATIONS in the hope of improving his health, all while America was dealing with WWII....though being incapable might have been a good thing, since had he managed the war, he likely would have screwed it up just as he did the Great Depression. Yet, the arrogant asshole ran for a FOURTH TERM in '44 barely able to stand or speak.

And remember, all this was concealed from the American public.

The political class duped the American people just as they are doing today. Amazingly it continues to work.
FDR turned the US into a Superpower and made us a modern Democracy

By far the greatest modern President....bar none
 

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If it wasn't for him Republicans wouldn't have *cough* "defense" contractors & Pentagon big wigs to suck-up to. ;)
 
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By far the greatest modern President....bar none



An historic VILLIAN.
Far from it

He turned us into a great nation

NO, we were a great nation already and we have made ourselves greater since. He threatened our very republic, exacerbated a depression, saddled future generations with unsustainable obligations, got into bed with murderous tyrants, and trampled on the rights and freedoms of over one hundred thousand innocent, loyal Americans, including some of the very best and bravest we've ever had. He was absolutely despicable.
 

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An historic VILLIAN.
Far from it

He turned us into a great nation

NO, we were a great nation already and we have made ourselves greater since. He threatened our very republic, exacerbated a depression, saddled future generations with unsustainable obligations, got into bed with murderous tyrants, and trampled on the rights and freedoms of over one hundred thousand innocent, loyal Americans, including some of the very best and bravest we've ever had. He was absolutely despicable.
Republicans had turned our nation into a libertarians dream. Every man for himself, rampant speculation, greed, indifference to the suffering of others. They had also turned us isolationist and stripped our military

FDR made us an economic and military superpower
 

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FDR was arguably our WORST president and we have endured many bad ones.

He did not tell the war criminal Truman about the a-bomb because he was a fool, egotist, in ill health, and considered Truman a dunce....even though he was also a dunce.

I believe from about 1943 until his death, Stalin's Stooge was incapable to performing the duties of the presidency due to his health. His doctor had him working only 4 hours a day. He took numerous VACATIONS in the hope of improving his health, all while America was dealing with WWII....though being incapable might have been a good thing, since had he managed the war, he likely would have screwed it up just as he did the Great Depression. Yet, the arrogant asshole ran for a FOURTH TERM in '44 barely able to stand or speak.

And remember, all this was concealed from the American public.

The political class duped the American people just as they are doing today. Amazingly it continues to work.
FDR turned the US into a Superpower and made us a modern Democracy

By far the greatest modern President....bar none


“Theodore Lowi, a political science eminence at Cornell University, years ago drew a bead on what was wrong with the American polity. In his The End of Liberalism: The Second Republic of the United States, he claimed that the Founder's constitution of 1787 had been surreptitiously replaced with a new one by the FDR administration, and no one had actually noticed it for seventy-plus years.

In current argot, we have been operating under US Constitution, 2.0 since the Roosevelt era. The contours of the constitution of this "Second Republic" as he deemed it, bears some scrutiny, as the Obama Administration and the 112th Congress go to work bringing even more change--possibly US Constitution 3.0. The preamble and first article of the actual constitution we have been living under, which Lowi acutely discerned, suffice to show where an Obama constitution will be taking off from. Archived-Articles: America's Third Republic?

PREAMBLE. There ought to be a national presence in every aspect of the lives of American citizens. National power is no longer a necessary evil; it is a positive virtue.

Article I. It is the primary purpose of this national government to provide domestic tranquility by reducing risk. This risk may be physical or it may be fiscal. In order to fulfill this sacred obligation, the national government shall be deemed to have sufficient power to eliminate threats from the environment through regulation, and to eliminate threats from economic uncertainty through insurance.
 

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Far from it

He turned us into a great nation

NO, we were a great nation already and we have made ourselves greater since. He threatened our very republic, exacerbated a depression, saddled future generations with unsustainable obligations, got into bed with murderous tyrants, and trampled on the rights and freedoms of over one hundred thousand innocent, loyal Americans, including some of the very best and bravest we've ever had. He was absolutely despicable.
Republicans had turned our nation into a libertarians dream. Every man for himself, rampant speculation, greed, indifference to the suffering of others. They had also turned us isolationist and stripped our military

FDR made us an economic and military superpower


We all know your political leanings. You have addressed none of the points in my post.
 

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FDR was arguably our WORST president and we have endured many bad ones.

He did not tell the war criminal Truman about the a-bomb because he was a fool, egotist, in ill health, and considered Truman a dunce....even though he was also a dunce.

I believe from about 1943 until his death, Stalin's Stooge was incapable to performing the duties of the presidency due to his health. His doctor had him working only 4 hours a day. He took numerous VACATIONS in the hope of improving his health, all while America was dealing with WWII....though being incapable might have been a good thing, since had he managed the war, he likely would have screwed it up just as he did the Great Depression. Yet, the arrogant asshole ran for a FOURTH TERM in '44 barely able to stand or speak.

And remember, all this was concealed from the American public.

The political class duped the American people just as they are doing today. Amazingly it continues to work.
FDR turned the US into a Superpower and made us a modern Democracy

By far the greatest modern President....bar none


“Theodore Lowi, a political science eminence at Cornell University, years ago drew a bead on what was wrong with the American polity. In his The End of Liberalism: The Second Republic of the United States, he claimed that the Founder's constitution of 1787 had been surreptitiously replaced with a new one by the FDR administration, and no one had actually noticed it for seventy-plus years.

In current argot, we have been operating under US Constitution, 2.0 since the Roosevelt era. The contours of the constitution of this "Second Republic" as he deemed it, bears some scrutiny, as the Obama Administration and the 112th Congress go to work bringing even more change--possibly US Constitution 3.0. The preamble and first article of the actual constitution we have been living under, which Lowi acutely discerned, suffice to show where an Obama constitution will be taking off from. Archived-Articles: America's Third Republic?

PREAMBLE. There ought to be a national presence in every aspect of the lives of American citizens. National power is no longer a necessary evil; it is a positive virtue.

Article I. It is the primary purpose of this national government to provide domestic tranquility by reducing risk. This risk may be physical or it may be fiscal. In order to fulfill this sacred obligation, the national government shall be deemed to have sufficient power to eliminate threats from the environment through regulation, and to eliminate threats from economic uncertainty through insurance.
I would only add "and to eliminate threats from economic uncertainty through socialism and insurance." to Mr. Lowi's statement.
 

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Republicans have been running against FDR since 1932, and in all those years Republicans still haven't found a Republican candidate or even an argument that can beat FDR. All the name calling, all the lies, all the posts, and FDR is still rated America's greatest president. Someday a better president may emerge and if one does he or she may even be a Republican or a conservative but until then, FDR is considered the first modern president and the greatest.
As for the argument that FDR hid his paralysis from the public that's not true. Americans knew FDR had polio and was paralyzed, in fact the March of Dimes was started in 1938 by Eddie Cantor with FDR's leadership to help polio victims and hopeully to develop a prevention. How many of those dimes helped find the Salk vaccine and why was the dime selected?
 

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FDR was nothing but a zombie when he ran for his 4th term. Democrats knew he would not live so they dumped the Vice President who was a little too independent and ran a timid little bean counter senator from Missouri who didn't have a clue. FDR was probably over medicated if he was even in his own mind in his last three months of life. His medical records were stolen out of a locked safe and disappeared after his death. The military was running the show after April 1945 and Truman was only along for the ride.
 

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