Why did so many Germans support Hitler?

[bigrebnc1775]

it is not Nena. it is also not my ex-girlfriend.

Ex girl friend? she looks like a skank, well a bridge troll couldn't do any better.

quote fail, ignore fail, generic fail.

go to bed.

I hear a faint cry from the village, they are calling their idiot you better move along chump. I only responded because I read elvis's reply and saw your bridge troll comment.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Ex girl friend? she looks like a skank, well a bridge troll couldn't do any better.

quote fail, ignore fail, generic fail.

go to bed.

I hear a faint cry from the village, they are calling their idiot you better move along chump.

finally, a decent effort. did you copy and paste that weak line from somewhere?

 

[Bfgrn]

I'm a lot older then you stupid. What does age have anything to do with have the common sense to understand that someone will not be torn between making a choice to join a group just to take control of that group.

The name of the book is MEIN Kampf...MY struggle. It is not about other people. It is about HIM. It is NOT about Hitler joining up with, prescribing to, being subservient to, or assimilating OTHER people's views or beliefs. It is the opposite. In his mind, HE HAS the answers. And the book is a blueprint that spells out HIS intentions, HIS aspirations, and the conscription HE will apply TO other people.

Hitler never plans to join up, he plans to take over. He alludes to it in the very chapter YOU posted. But you don't read to LEARN Hitler's beliefs. You read looking for snippets of paragraphs, sentences and words you can take out of context, hack up and use it to promote YOUR preconceived beliefs.

Hitler is not a socialist. He doesn't believe in inclusiveness, he believes in exclusiveness and exclusion. A 'you are with us or against us' attitude for those he would include. People who must first pass a purity test and a then pledge undying subservience and loyalty to HIS state. For the people he will exclude, there is no membership option. They already fail his purity test. They are of the wrong religion, ancestry, sexual orientation or IQ level. Those to be excluded will be eliminated.

You are a stuipd son of a bitch Did I say the book was about other fucking people stupid? I have always said it was about hitler. One more fucking time for stupid

"After two days of agonized pondering and reflection, I finally came to the conviction that I had to take this step.
It was the most decisive resolve of my life. From here there was and could be no turning back.
And so I registered as a member of the German Workers' Party and received a provisional membership card with the number 7."

This does not sound like someone who was joining a group just to take it over. If it was his plan to take it over, he would never had such a struggle between joining and not joining.
And hell yes Hitler was a socialist if not why did he call the nazis, nazis?

The National Socialist German Workers Party

Did you ever consider that WHAT he was agonizing over was taking the step from being a soldier, to finally entering politics? He spend the whole last paragraphs justifying his decision.

"I began to ponder back and forth. I had long been resolved to engage in political activity; that this could be done only in a new movement was likewise clear to me, only the impetus to act had hitherto been lacking"

"Fate itself now seemed to give me a hint. I should never have gone into one of the existing large parties, and later on I shall go into the reasons for this more closely. This absurd little organization with its few members seemed to me to possess the one advantage that it had not frozen into an 'organization,' but left the individual an opportunity for real personal activity. Here it was still possible to work, and the smaller the movement, the more readily it could be put into the proper form. Here the content, the goal, and the road could still be determined, which in the existing great parties was impossible from the outset."

So, because there is the WORD Socialist in the party name, THAT means he was a socialist? What KIND, a Marxist?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The name of the book is MEIN Kampf...MY struggle. It is not about other people. It is about HIM. It is NOT about Hitler joining up with, prescribing to, being subservient to, or assimilating OTHER people's views or beliefs. It is the opposite. In his mind, HE HAS the answers. And the book is a blueprint that spells out HIS intentions, HIS aspirations, and the conscription HE will apply TO other people.

Hitler never plans to join up, he plans to take over. He alludes to it in the very chapter YOU posted. But you don't read to LEARN Hitler's beliefs. You read looking for snippets of paragraphs, sentences and words you can take out of context, hack up and use it to promote YOUR preconceived beliefs.

Hitler is not a socialist. He doesn't believe in inclusiveness, he believes in exclusiveness and exclusion. A 'you are with us or against us' attitude for those he would include. People who must first pass a purity test and a then pledge undying subservience and loyalty to HIS state. For the people he will exclude, there is no membership option. They already fail his purity test. They are of the wrong religion, ancestry, sexual orientation or IQ level. Those to be excluded will be eliminated.

You are a stuipd son of a bitch Did I say the book was about other fucking people stupid? I have always said it was about hitler. One more fucking time for stupid

"After two days of agonized pondering and reflection, I finally came to the conviction that I had to take this step.
It was the most decisive resolve of my life. From here there was and could be no turning back.
And so I registered as a member of the German Workers' Party and received a provisional membership card with the number 7."

This does not sound like someone who was joining a group just to take it over. If it was his plan to take it over, he would never had such a struggle between joining and not joining.
And hell yes Hitler was a socialist if not why did he call the nazis, nazis?

The National Socialist German Workers Party

Did you ever consider that WHAT he was agonizing over was taking the step from being a soldier, to finally entering politics? He spend the whole last paragraphs justifying his decision.

"I began to ponder back and forth. I had long been resolved to engage in political activity; that this could be done only in a new movement was likewise clear to me, only the impetus to act had hitherto been lacking"

"Fate itself now seemed to give me a hint. I should never have gone into one of the existing large parties, and later on I shall go into the reasons for this more closely. This absurd little organization with its few members seemed to me to possess the one advantage that it had not frozen into an 'organization,' but left the individual an opportunity for real personal activity. Here it was still possible to work, and the smaller the movement, the more readily it could be put into the proper form. Here the content, the goal, and the road could still be determined, which in the existing great parties was impossible from the outset."

So, because there is the WORD Socialist in the party name, THAT means he was a socialist? What KIND, a Marxist?

Stop it you are grasping for straws. That was why he was agonizing he didn't want to leave the army.

He was in the socialist party. he was a socialist.

 

[sparky]

Well it seems to me that Hiltler's gift was his ability to demonize and thus silence his opposition more than anything else

Ironically, we so loath this sort of oppression when it's manifest by an individual, yet subscribe to it when it appears in systemic forms that insiduosly amount to the same thing

the degreg of media (remember Mike Powell) , net nuetrality, VNR's and of course the numerous white house press correspondents who's entire modus operandi is to run interference all could easily be painted as Hilter's disciples were this 1937 Germany

oh but, your free right? YOU have free speech in America, how could i forget that which was paid for in blood has granted you the inalienable right to grow an a*s the shape of your seat here howling your brains out in this 2010 American wilderness eh?

right then, carry on.....

~S~

 

[Bfgrn]

You are a stuipd son of a bitch Did I say the book was about other fucking people stupid? I have always said it was about hitler. One more fucking time for stupid

"After two days of agonized pondering and reflection, I finally came to the conviction that I had to take this step.
It was the most decisive resolve of my life. From here there was and could be no turning back.
And so I registered as a member of the German Workers' Party and received a provisional membership card with the number 7."

This does not sound like someone who was joining a group just to take it over. If it was his plan to take it over, he would never had such a struggle between joining and not joining.
And hell yes Hitler was a socialist if not why did he call the nazis, nazis?

The National Socialist German Workers Party

Did you ever consider that WHAT he was agonizing over was taking the step from being a soldier, to finally entering politics? He spend the whole last paragraphs justifying his decision.

"I began to ponder back and forth. I had long been resolved to engage in political activity; that this could be done only in a new movement was likewise clear to me, only the impetus to act had hitherto been lacking"

"Fate itself now seemed to give me a hint. I should never have gone into one of the existing large parties, and later on I shall go into the reasons for this more closely. This absurd little organization with its few members seemed to me to possess the one advantage that it had not frozen into an 'organization,' but left the individual an opportunity for real personal activity. Here it was still possible to work, and the smaller the movement, the more readily it could be put into the proper form. Here the content, the goal, and the road could still be determined, which in the existing great parties was impossible from the outset."

So, because there is the WORD Socialist in the party name, THAT means he was a socialist? What KIND, a Marxist?

Stop it you are grasping for straws. That was why he was agonizing he didn't want to leave the army.

He was in the socialist party. he was a socialist.

I AM grasping at straws? THAT is ALL you have brought to this argument from the start. You have taken right wing propaganda and dogma and made it YOUR truth, even though it has NO basis in reality or history. Hitler's beliefs and the German workers party platform was based on a folkish philosophy. Hitler absolutely DESPISED Marxists and socialists.

Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler - Philosophy and Party
Mein Kampf - Volume II, Chapter I

Though at present a part of the Marxists shrewdly try to pretend that they are inseparably linked with the principles of democracy, do not forget if you please that in the critical hour these gentlemen didn't care a damn about a majority decision in the Western democratic sense! This was in the days when the bourgeois parliamentarians saw the security of the Reich guaranteed by the monumental small-mindedness of a superior number, while the Marxists, with a band of bums, deserters, party bosses, and Jewish journalists, abruptly seized power, thus giving democracy a resounding slap in the face.

The Marxists will march with democracy until they succeed in indirectly obtaining for their criminal aims the support of even the national intellectual world, destined by them for extermination.

His Marxist doctrine is a brief spiritual extract of the philosophy of life that is generally current today. And for this reason alone any struggle of our so-called bourgeois world against it is impossible, absurd in fact, since this bourgeois world is also essentially infected by these poisons, and worships a view of life which in general is distinguished from the Marxists only by degrees and personalities. The bourgeois world is Marxist, but believes in the possibility of the rule of certain groups of men (bourgeoisie), while Marxism itself systematically plans to hand the world over to the Jews.

In opposition to this, the folkish philosophy finds the importance of mankind in its basic racial elements. In the state it sees on principle only a means to an end and construes its end as the preservation of the racial existence of man. Thus, it by no means believes in an equality of the races, but along with their difference it recognizes their higher or lesser value and feels itself obligated, through this knowledge, to promote the victory of the better and stronger, and demand the subordination of the inferior and weaker in accordance with the eternal will that dominates this universe. Thus, in principle, it serves the basic aristocratic idea of Nature and believes in the validity of this law down to the last individual. It sees not only the different value of the races, but also the different value of individuals. From the mass it extracts the importance of the individual personality, and thus, in contrast to disorganizing Marxism, it has an organizing effect. It believes in the necessity of an idealization of humanity, in which alone it sees the premise for the existence of humanity. But it cannot grant the right to existence even to an ethical idea if this idea represents a danger for the racial life of the bearers of a higher ethics; for in a bastardized and niggerized world all the concepts of the humanly beautiful and sublime, as well as all ideas of an idealized future of our humanity, would be lost forever.

 

[editec]

How did we go from a discussion about:

"Why did so many Germans support Hitler?"
​

to this debate about whether or not Hitler was a socialist?

Do we think that the German people are unique in wanting some basic social welfare from their governments, or something?

Hitler was what he was.

What you call him depends on whether or not you have a CLUE what socialism really is.

Which, most of you , apparently, do NOT.



​

 

[Bfgrn]

How did we go from a discussion about:

"Why did so many Germans support Hitler?"
​

to this debate about whether or not Hitler was a socialist?

Do we think that the German people are unique in wanting some basic social welfare from their governments, or something?

Hitler was what he was.

What you call him depends on whether or not you have a CLUE what socialism really is.

Which, most of you , apparently, do NOT.



​

Hey, editec...maybe you can't read between the lines, or notice the 800 lb. gorilla in the room...

WHAT bigrebnc1775 is saying:

Hitler was a leftist, Obama and Democrats are leftist = Obama is a Hitler and Democrats are fascists.

AND the right wingers are the protectors of America...

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Did you ever consider that WHAT he was agonizing over was taking the step from being a soldier, to finally entering politics? He spend the whole last paragraphs justifying his decision.

"I began to ponder back and forth. I had long been resolved to engage in political activity; that this could be done only in a new movement was likewise clear to me, only the impetus to act had hitherto been lacking"

"Fate itself now seemed to give me a hint. I should never have gone into one of the existing large parties, and later on I shall go into the reasons for this more closely. This absurd little organization with its few members seemed to me to possess the one advantage that it had not frozen into an 'organization,' but left the individual an opportunity for real personal activity. Here it was still possible to work, and the smaller the movement, the more readily it could be put into the proper form. Here the content, the goal, and the road could still be determined, which in the existing great parties was impossible from the outset."

So, because there is the WORD Socialist in the party name, THAT means he was a socialist? What KIND, a Marxist?

Stop it you are grasping for straws. That was why he was agonizing he didn't want to leave the army.

He was in the socialist party. he was a socialist.

I AM grasping at straws? THAT is ALL you have brought to this argument from the start. You have taken right wing propaganda and dogma and made it YOUR truth, even though it has NO basis in reality or history. Hitler's beliefs and the German workers party platform was based on a folkish philosophy. Hitler absolutely DESPISED Marxists and socialists.

Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler - Philosophy and Party
Mein Kampf - Volume II, Chapter I

Though at present a part of the Marxists shrewdly try to pretend that they are inseparably linked with the principles of democracy, do not forget if you please that in the critical hour these gentlemen didn't care a damn about a majority decision in the Western democratic sense! This was in the days when the bourgeois parliamentarians saw the security of the Reich guaranteed by the monumental small-mindedness of a superior number, while the Marxists, with a band of bums, deserters, party bosses, and Jewish journalists, abruptly seized power, thus giving democracy a resounding slap in the face.

The Marxists will march with democracy until they succeed in indirectly obtaining for their criminal aims the support of even the national intellectual world, destined by them for extermination.

His Marxist doctrine is a brief spiritual extract of the philosophy of life that is generally current today. And for this reason alone any struggle of our so-called bourgeois world against it is impossible, absurd in fact, since this bourgeois world is also essentially infected by these poisons, and worships a view of life which in general is distinguished from the Marxists only by degrees and personalities. The bourgeois world is Marxist, but believes in the possibility of the rule of certain groups of men (bourgeoisie), while Marxism itself systematically plans to hand the world over to the Jews.

In opposition to this, the folkish philosophy finds the importance of mankind in its basic racial elements. In the state it sees on principle only a means to an end and construes its end as the preservation of the racial existence of man. Thus, it by no means believes in an equality of the races, but along with their difference it recognizes their higher or lesser value and feels itself obligated, through this knowledge, to promote the victory of the better and stronger, and demand the subordination of the inferior and weaker in accordance with the eternal will that dominates this universe. Thus, in principle, it serves the basic aristocratic idea of Nature and believes in the validity of this law down to the last individual. It sees not only the different value of the races, but also the different value of individuals. From the mass it extracts the importance of the individual personality, and thus, in contrast to disorganizing Marxism, it has an organizing effect. It believes in the necessity of an idealization of humanity, in which alone it sees the premise for the existence of humanity. But it cannot grant the right to existence even to an ethical idea if this idea represents a danger for the racial life of the bearers of a higher ethics; for in a bastardized and niggerized world all the concepts of the humanly beautiful and sublime, as well as all ideas of an idealized future of our humanity, would be lost forever.

Thats right you are grasping for straws. In this comment you were graping for straws.
The name of the book is MEIN Kampf...MY struggle. It is not about other people. It is about HIM. It is NOT about Hitler joining up with, prescribing to, being subservient to, or assimilating OTHER people's views or beliefs. It is the opposite. In his mind, HE HAS the answers. And the book is a blueprint that spells out HIS intentions, HIS aspirations, and the conscription HE will apply TO other people.

Why would you try to make it look like I had no idea MEIN Kampf was about Hitler?
Do you think stalin sturggled whern he had all those people murded when he took control? Do you think Hitler sturggled when he had all those people murdered. No he did not it was his intent to do it. If Hitlers intent was to take control of that group he would never have sturggled with doing it.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

How did we go from a discussion about:

"Why did so many Germans support Hitler?"
​

to this debate about whether or not Hitler was a socialist?

Do we think that the German people are unique in wanting some basic social welfare from their governments, or something?

Hitler was what he was.

What you call him depends on whether or not you have a CLUE what socialism really is.

Which, most of you , apparently, do NOT.



​

Hey, editec...maybe you can't read between the lines, or notice the 800 lb. gorilla in the room...

WHAT bigrebnc1775 is saying:

Hitler was a leftist, Obama and Democrats are leftist = Obama is a Hitler and Democrats are fascists.

AND the right wingers are the protectors of America...

Thats why you are fighting the truth about hitler.

 

[Bfgrn]

Stop it you are grasping for straws. That was why he was agonizing he didn't want to leave the army.

He was in the socialist party. he was a socialist.

I AM grasping at straws? THAT is ALL you have brought to this argument from the start. You have taken right wing propaganda and dogma and made it YOUR truth, even though it has NO basis in reality or history. Hitler's beliefs and the German workers party platform was based on a folkish philosophy. Hitler absolutely DESPISED Marxists and socialists.

Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler - Philosophy and Party
Mein Kampf - Volume II, Chapter I

Though at present a part of the Marxists shrewdly try to pretend that they are inseparably linked with the principles of democracy, do not forget if you please that in the critical hour these gentlemen didn't care a damn about a majority decision in the Western democratic sense! This was in the days when the bourgeois parliamentarians saw the security of the Reich guaranteed by the monumental small-mindedness of a superior number, while the Marxists, with a band of bums, deserters, party bosses, and Jewish journalists, abruptly seized power, thus giving democracy a resounding slap in the face.

The Marxists will march with democracy until they succeed in indirectly obtaining for their criminal aims the support of even the national intellectual world, destined by them for extermination.

His Marxist doctrine is a brief spiritual extract of the philosophy of life that is generally current today. And for this reason alone any struggle of our so-called bourgeois world against it is impossible, absurd in fact, since this bourgeois world is also essentially infected by these poisons, and worships a view of life which in general is distinguished from the Marxists only by degrees and personalities. The bourgeois world is Marxist, but believes in the possibility of the rule of certain groups of men (bourgeoisie), while Marxism itself systematically plans to hand the world over to the Jews.

In opposition to this, the folkish philosophy finds the importance of mankind in its basic racial elements. In the state it sees on principle only a means to an end and construes its end as the preservation of the racial existence of man. Thus, it by no means believes in an equality of the races, but along with their difference it recognizes their higher or lesser value and feels itself obligated, through this knowledge, to promote the victory of the better and stronger, and demand the subordination of the inferior and weaker in accordance with the eternal will that dominates this universe. Thus, in principle, it serves the basic aristocratic idea of Nature and believes in the validity of this law down to the last individual. It sees not only the different value of the races, but also the different value of individuals. From the mass it extracts the importance of the individual personality, and thus, in contrast to disorganizing Marxism, it has an organizing effect. It believes in the necessity of an idealization of humanity, in which alone it sees the premise for the existence of humanity. But it cannot grant the right to existence even to an ethical idea if this idea represents a danger for the racial life of the bearers of a higher ethics; for in a bastardized and niggerized world all the concepts of the humanly beautiful and sublime, as well as all ideas of an idealized future of our humanity, would be lost forever.

Thats right you are grasping for straws. In this comment you were graping for straws.
The name of the book is MEIN Kampf...MY struggle. It is not about other people. It is about HIM. It is NOT about Hitler joining up with, prescribing to, being subservient to, or assimilating OTHER people's views or beliefs. It is the opposite. In his mind, HE HAS the answers. And the book is a blueprint that spells out HIS intentions, HIS aspirations, and the conscription HE will apply TO other people.

Why would you try to make it look like I had no idea MEIN Kampf was about Hitler?
Do you think stalin sturggled whern he had all those people murded when he took control? Do you think Hitler sturggled when he had all those people murdered. No he did not it was his intent to do it. If Hitlers intent was to take control of that group he would never have sturggled with doing it.

WHAT don't you comprehend about Adolf Hitler??? His 'struggle' in the book is never about him having anguish over joining up with, conforming to or being a servant to the beliefs of OTHERS or being a member of their organizations. It is about HIM...what decisions HE makes that will lead to HIS goals. Everyone ELSE is either a useFUL idiot, or a useLESS idiot.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I AM grasping at straws? THAT is ALL you have brought to this argument from the start. You have taken right wing propaganda and dogma and made it YOUR truth, even though it has NO basis in reality or history. Hitler's beliefs and the German workers party platform was based on a folkish philosophy. Hitler absolutely DESPISED Marxists and socialists.

Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler - Philosophy and Party
Mein Kampf - Volume II, Chapter I

Though at present a part of the Marxists shrewdly try to pretend that they are inseparably linked with the principles of democracy, do not forget if you please that in the critical hour these gentlemen didn't care a damn about a majority decision in the Western democratic sense! This was in the days when the bourgeois parliamentarians saw the security of the Reich guaranteed by the monumental small-mindedness of a superior number, while the Marxists, with a band of bums, deserters, party bosses, and Jewish journalists, abruptly seized power, thus giving democracy a resounding slap in the face.

The Marxists will march with democracy until they succeed in indirectly obtaining for their criminal aims the support of even the national intellectual world, destined by them for extermination.

His Marxist doctrine is a brief spiritual extract of the philosophy of life that is generally current today. And for this reason alone any struggle of our so-called bourgeois world against it is impossible, absurd in fact, since this bourgeois world is also essentially infected by these poisons, and worships a view of life which in general is distinguished from the Marxists only by degrees and personalities. The bourgeois world is Marxist, but believes in the possibility of the rule of certain groups of men (bourgeoisie), while Marxism itself systematically plans to hand the world over to the Jews.

In opposition to this, the folkish philosophy finds the importance of mankind in its basic racial elements. In the state it sees on principle only a means to an end and construes its end as the preservation of the racial existence of man. Thus, it by no means believes in an equality of the races, but along with their difference it recognizes their higher or lesser value and feels itself obligated, through this knowledge, to promote the victory of the better and stronger, and demand the subordination of the inferior and weaker in accordance with the eternal will that dominates this universe. Thus, in principle, it serves the basic aristocratic idea of Nature and believes in the validity of this law down to the last individual. It sees not only the different value of the races, but also the different value of individuals. From the mass it extracts the importance of the individual personality, and thus, in contrast to disorganizing Marxism, it has an organizing effect. It believes in the necessity of an idealization of humanity, in which alone it sees the premise for the existence of humanity. But it cannot grant the right to existence even to an ethical idea if this idea represents a danger for the racial life of the bearers of a higher ethics; for in a bastardized and niggerized world all the concepts of the humanly beautiful and sublime, as well as all ideas of an idealized future of our humanity, would be lost forever.

Thats right you are grasping for straws. In this comment you were graping for straws.
The name of the book is MEIN Kampf...MY struggle. It is not about other people. It is about HIM. It is NOT about Hitler joining up with, prescribing to, being subservient to, or assimilating OTHER people's views or beliefs. It is the opposite. In his mind, HE HAS the answers. And the book is a blueprint that spells out HIS intentions, HIS aspirations, and the conscription HE will apply TO other people.

Why would you try to make it look like I had no idea MEIN Kampf was about Hitler?
Do you think stalin sturggled whern he had all those people murded when he took control? Do you think Hitler sturggled when he had all those people murdered. No he did not it was his intent to do it. If Hitlers intent was to take control of that group he would never have sturggled with doing it.

WHAT don't you comprehend about Adolf Hitler??? His 'struggle' in the book is never about him having anguish over joining up with, conforming to or being a servant to the beliefs of OTHERS or being a member of their organizations. It is about HIM...what decisions HE makes that will lead to HIS goals. Everyone ELSE is either a useFUL idiot, or a useLESS idiot.

The book itself is not just about him joining that group but that chapter is the battle within himself as to join or not join that group.
Put yourself in this position. Would you struggle choosing to join a group that you intended to take over. Most normal people would not have a hard time to decide on doing this. If it was me and I was going to try and take control of a group I wouldn't sturggle with that choice. It would be second nature.

 

[Bfgrn]

Thats right you are grasping for straws. In this comment you were graping for straws.
The name of the book is MEIN Kampf...MY struggle. It is not about other people. It is about HIM. It is NOT about Hitler joining up with, prescribing to, being subservient to, or assimilating OTHER people's views or beliefs. It is the opposite. In his mind, HE HAS the answers. And the book is a blueprint that spells out HIS intentions, HIS aspirations, and the conscription HE will apply TO other people.

Why would you try to make it look like I had no idea MEIN Kampf was about Hitler?
Do you think stalin sturggled whern he had all those people murded when he took control? Do you think Hitler sturggled when he had all those people murdered. No he did not it was his intent to do it. If Hitlers intent was to take control of that group he would never have sturggled with doing it.

WHAT don't you comprehend about Adolf Hitler??? His 'struggle' in the book is never about him having anguish over joining up with, conforming to or being a servant to the beliefs of OTHERS or being a member of their organizations. It is about HIM...what decisions HE makes that will lead to HIS goals. Everyone ELSE is either a useFUL idiot, or a useLESS idiot.

The book itself is not just about him joining that group but that chapter is the battle within himself as to join or not join that group.
Put yourself in this position. Would you struggle choosing to join a group that you intended to take over. Most normal people would not have a hard time to decide on doing this. If it was me and I was going to try and take control of a group I wouldn't sturggle with that choice. It would be second nature.

Read the chapter over again... his ONLY 'struggle' was if that was the right time and vehicle to fulfill what he saw as his destiny. He even tells you:

"This absurd little organization with its few members seemed to me to possess the one advantage that it had not frozen into an 'organization,' but left the individual an opportunity for real personal activity. Here it was still possible to work, and the smaller the movement, the more readily it could be put into the proper form. Here the content, the goal, and the road could still be determined,..."

The 'real personal activity' is HIS activity.

WHAT he struggled with was if THIS (party) was the right time, place and vehicle to fulfill HIS aspirations and goals...OR if another avenue would be better. He want his OWN party. He rationalizes why he can't join a major party, and he has no members to start his own.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

WHAT don't you comprehend about Adolf Hitler??? His 'struggle' in the book is never about him having anguish over joining up with, conforming to or being a servant to the beliefs of OTHERS or being a member of their organizations. It is about HIM...what decisions HE makes that will lead to HIS goals. Everyone ELSE is either a useFUL idiot, or a useLESS idiot.

The book itself is not just about him joining that group but that chapter is the battle within himself as to join or not join that group.
Put yourself in this position. Would you struggle choosing to join a group that you intended to take over. Most normal people would not have a hard time to decide on doing this. If it was me and I was going to try and take control of a group I wouldn't sturggle with that choice. It would be second nature.

Read the chapter over again... his ONLY 'struggle' was if that was the right time and vehicle to fulfill what he saw as his destiny. He even tells you:

"This absurd little organization with its few members seemed to me to possess the one advantage that it had not frozen into an 'organization,' but left the individual an opportunity for real personal activity. Here it was still possible to work, and the smaller the movement, the more readily it could be put into the proper form. Here the content, the goal, and the road could still be determined,..."

The 'real personal activity' is HIS activity.

WHAT he struggled with was if THIS (party) was the right time, place and vehicle to fulfill HIS aspirations and goals...OR if another avenue would be better. He want his OWN party. He rationalizes why he can't join a major party, and he has no members to start his own.

That wasn't his struggle stop trying to revise hitler into something he wasn't

 

[Bfgrn]

The book itself is not just about him joining that group but that chapter is the battle within himself as to join or not join that group.
Put yourself in this position. Would you struggle choosing to join a group that you intended to take over. Most normal people would not have a hard time to decide on doing this. If it was me and I was going to try and take control of a group I wouldn't sturggle with that choice. It would be second nature.

Read the chapter over again... his ONLY 'struggle' was if that was the right time and vehicle to fulfill what he saw as his destiny. He even tells you:

"This absurd little organization with its few members seemed to me to possess the one advantage that it had not frozen into an 'organization,' but left the individual an opportunity for real personal activity. Here it was still possible to work, and the smaller the movement, the more readily it could be put into the proper form. Here the content, the goal, and the road could still be determined,..."

The 'real personal activity' is HIS activity.

WHAT he struggled with was if THIS (party) was the right time, place and vehicle to fulfill HIS aspirations and goals...OR if another avenue would be better. He want his OWN party. He rationalizes why he can't join a major party, and he has no members to start his own.

That wasn't his struggle stop trying to revise hitler into something he wasn't

Stop PROJECTING...

You continue YOUR narration and ignore Hitler's...

READ this chapter and bring me back all of Hitler's 'socialist' beliefs...
Mein Kampf - Volume II, Chapter I - Philosophy and Party

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Read the chapter over again... his ONLY 'struggle' was if that was the right time and vehicle to fulfill what he saw as his destiny. He even tells you:

"This absurd little organization with its few members seemed to me to possess the one advantage that it had not frozen into an 'organization,' but left the individual an opportunity for real personal activity. Here it was still possible to work, and the smaller the movement, the more readily it could be put into the proper form. Here the content, the goal, and the road could still be determined,..."

The 'real personal activity' is HIS activity.

WHAT he struggled with was if THIS (party) was the right time, place and vehicle to fulfill HIS aspirations and goals...OR if another avenue would be better. He want his OWN party. He rationalizes why he can't join a major party, and he has no members to start his own.

That wasn't his struggle stop trying to revise hitler into something he wasn't

Stop PROJECTING...

You continue YOUR narration and ignore Hitler's...

READ this chapter and bring me back all of Hitler's 'socialist' beliefs...
Mein Kampf - Volume II, Chapter I - Philosophy and Party

I have read it maybe you shoulkd take your own advice, I know you have read it also.....I guess it didn't stick.

 

[Bfgrn]

That wasn't his struggle stop trying to revise hitler into something he wasn't

Stop PROJECTING...

You continue YOUR narration and ignore Hitler's...

READ this chapter and bring me back all of Hitler's 'socialist' beliefs...
Mein Kampf - Volume II, Chapter I - Philosophy and Party

I have read it maybe you shoulkd take your own advice, I know you have read it also.....I guess it didn't stick.

Then you are either a liar or a moron, which one is it? Here's what you do, put a < next to his 'socialist' beliefs...

Nationalism over internationalism
Exclusiveness over inclusiveness
Militarism over pacifism
Individualism over collectivism
Racism or racial segregation over racial tolerance
Merit over equality
Religion over secularism
Capitalism over Marxism

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Stop PROJECTING...

You continue YOUR narration and ignore Hitler's...

READ this chapter and bring me back all of Hitler's 'socialist' beliefs...
Mein Kampf - Volume II, Chapter I - Philosophy and Party

I have read it maybe you shoulkd take your own advice, I know you have read it also.....I guess it didn't stick.

Then you are either a liar or a moron, which one is it? Here's what you do, put a < next to his 'socialist' beliefs...

Nationalism over internationalism
Exclusiveness over inclusiveness
Militarism over pacifism
Individualism over collectivism
Racism or racial segregation over racial tolerance
Merit over equality
Religion over secularism
Capitalism over Marxism

Tell me something how did blacks fair in the russian socialist system? since you mentioned racism
Hitler wasn't a capitalist
Hitler didn't believe in Individualism
And if you think socialism has anything to do with equality you are historically stupid.
There is always that crowd next to the powers that be that fair better then the rest.

Militarism over pacifism are the Russians pacifist? Are the Chinese?

 

[Charles_Main]

He divided the german people and got them to attack their own.

They were depressed and feeling like losers. He told they were gods not losers and they only reason they were in trouble was those phoney germans who didnt have pure german blood.

Its much the same shit the republican party is doing today with brown people.

You're definately vying for asshole of the year......now instead of bomb throwing like a little 2 year old...why not attempt to back up your lies with what you perceive as facts.

People that say things like truth should be time machined back to Nazi Germany and left naked in the streets of Berlin with the Word Jew tattooed on them, so they can see what real Nazis were like and stop comparing people to them.

 

[Douger]

Because they were told they needed their freeDumb protected and that terrorristas were going to invade.
Sound familiar ?