Why Choose To Be A Republican?

[dilloduck]

My point is that NO political philosophy would apply to Jesus. That includes socialism. I'm very familiar with the loaves and fish parable. Jesus fed a mulititude with 5 loaves and 2 fishes. That's not socialism; it's a miracle.

The government didn't come along and take 3 loaves and 1 fish to give to a poor family. Instead Jesus, out of the goodness of His own heart, made the most of what He had. He just happened to be Jesus, so He was able to perform a miracle. If you MUST draw a parallel, I'd say this supports capitalism more than socialism because *obviously* Jesus was able to do more with what he had than Ceasar would have been able to do.
He didn't NEED governemnt intervention to be giving.

However, I STILL think that Jesus would have been neither capitalist or socialist. He was completely apolitical, as I've said before. I think Jesus was far more concerned about the hearts of men than their voting record.

I don't think Jesus would run around saying "soak the rich " either. He sorta encouraged people to look for spiritual treasures and reminded them how hard it was for a rich person to enter the "kingdom of heaven".

 

[editec]

Jesus would either be in prison or zonked on some psychotrophic drug if he were to come back, folks.

He was a dangerous radical then, and he'd be seen as that today, too.

 

[CornbreadOracle]

I don't think Jesus would run around saying "soak the rich " either. He sorta encouraged people to look for spiritual treasures and reminded them how hard it was for a rich person to enter the "kingdom of heaven".

Exactly. Jesus would have encouraged the wealthy person to be more giving with their riches. He never once proposed the idea that Ceasar should take more out on taxes and start a "widows and orphans" fund.

 

[CornbreadOracle]

Jesus would either be in prison or zonked on some psychotrophic drug if he were to come back, folks.

He was a dangerous radical then, and he'd be seen as that today, too.

Well, they crucified Him last time, so wouldn't prison be a win?


(Actually, I have a completely different idea as to what will happen when He comes back the second time, but I won't get into that now. )

 

[chloe]

I appreciate your topic. My Step Dad is a Staunch Republican and My Ex Husband is a Very left Democrat, My Mother is Independant. I like some of the ideas by Republicans such as less government programs, like public housing, food stamps, welfare. I like the idea of Capitalism because even though I am poor, the idea of Capitalism gives me hope that if I work hard there is not a limit on possiblities. I don't like the idea of religion casting legal judgements on people. I enjoy reading the posts at this board to try to understand the differences of Republicans and Democrats outside of my own family. So far it seems like Republicans don't believe in handing out money to people just because they are poor, and Democrats don't believe religion should control people's personal choices. Im still reading and learning.

 

[DiamondDave]

Why Choose To Be A Republican?

Because you can actually appreciate taking care of yourself and not waiting or expecting someone else to do it for you... and you expect the same out of others

Unfortunately, the REP party has had many representatives go away from the conservative base, and act just as bad as the libs.... but the key is to purge those out with new Republican representative blood that adhere to the Conservative concepts... not to jump ship and vote in the leftists out of spite, considering they will do far worse

 

[strollingbones]

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[strollingbones]

all this talk of socialism...under bush we are just getting the worst parts of it..bailing out the big money...isnt that socialist?

 

[chloe]

all this talk of socialism...under bush we are just getting the worst parts of it..bailing out the big money...isnt that socialist?

The Bank Bailout does confuse me, because it seems like the Bankers should have to be responsible for the deicisions they made, I don't understand that. If less government spending is a good thing and cutting programs that assist people financially is the ideal why don't the people in the bank have to take responsibility for the problem? Since I pay all my bills and I don't have credit cards or loans it seems like too I shouldn't pay any taxes for the problem the bankers made. But then I think maybe I am misunderstanding what happened.

 

[Coloradomtnman]

Because you can actually appreciate taking care of yourself and not waiting or expecting someone else to do it for you... and you expect the same out of others

Unfortunately, the REP party has had many representatives go away from the conservative base, and act just as bad as the libs.... but the key is to purge those out with new Republican representative blood that adhere to the Conservative concepts... not to jump ship and vote in the leftists out of spite, considering they will do far worse

I don't think liberals want to give hand outs either. What I think liberals want is to bring equality to opportunity. What I mean is that a wealthy couple has better opportunities to educate their children. Those children attend better schools and eventually are educated and have the financial resources to attend elite colleges which are courted by companies that want to hire the best for their positions. Those positions are then acquired by the children of the wealthy reducing the number of available positions for children who have had to work their way up from the bottom. There is a lot of nepotisim among the wealthy elite as well. And instead of starting companies where the workers are really given everything they can to make their lives better, workers are paid as little as possible to hire and keep them, are given maybe a week of vacation a year, have to pay exhorbitant health insurance rates, and are made to spend nearly 1/3 of their lives working for wealthy people just so that, hopefully, by the time they reach the age of 65, they can retire with enough money to get by. Out of all of the people who live in this system, how many actually obtain wealth? 1%? How many people despite all of their hard work, luck, and opportunities still just don't make it? They just don't quite get lucky enough or never eventually have that opportunity to make the big bucks?

And how many people who don't get good educations, grow up in poor, depressed communities, who don't have much hope of wealth, who remain ignorant of the opportunities that might be possible, who, despite their best intentions, just barely make enough money to support their families? Do Republicans just wish to ignore them? That's how I grew up. Luckily, I got out of that situation but I will never be rich. However, I would like to help more people out of that position. I think Republicans have never been there, so they don't sympathize with people who are impoverished and disnfranchised; and somehow believe that those people are poor because they're lazy.

Why not uplift everyone instead of just ignoring them and only caring for those who have opportunity and yourself? Some people despite everything will remain disenfranchised because they lack ambition, but the majority of human beings want better lives for themselves and their families. Why not give a helping hand? Not lifelong welfare that they can barely subside on, but enough to help get them finish high school or get a GED, then attend community college, then go on to a four year degree, then work a job that is meaningful AND also pays enough that they can move into a better community, where there is hope for a better future for their children, and their children's children. That is called compassion. Yes, tax payers' money will be wasted on some people, but not everyone, and not most of them. We waste lots of money now on defense spending.

Liberals want to take care of the environment and want more regulations to ensure that polluting companies don't ruin the air and water that we and our children will breathe. Liberals want compassionate government that will lend a helping hand to those less fortunate because charity organizations are not enough. Liberals want companies that abuse their workers to be fair and allow people to work and also have the opportunities to enrich their lives. Liberals want people of all races, creeds, religions, ethnicities, and sexual orientations to have the same opportunities. Liberals want a fair justice system and don't think there should be so many minorities in prison, nor so many people in prison. Not all of them deserve it and prison, as it is now, does very little to help society and only ruins lives and trains people to be criminals instead giving back to society. Liberals want better lives for themselves and their children, for everyone. What's so terrible about that?

I think Republicans are scared. I think they fear minorities, homosexuals, radical ideas, youth, and anything they aren't familiar with or are raised among. I think they want to be wealthy no matter what, and believe everyone should be Christian and if they aren't, then they at least have to act Christian. The Republican party has a recent history have leaving out the poor and helping the wealthy who don't need help. The Republican party has a recent history of racism. The Republican party has a recent history of hate. The Republican party has a recent history of environmental degradation. It seems to me the Republican party is about greed. Am I wrong? If so, show me how. Seriously. This is what I have experienced. This is what I have perceived. It doesn't mean I'm right, but it's what I think.

 

[sealybobo]

all this talk of socialism...under bush we are just getting the worst parts of it..bailing out the big money...isnt that socialist?

Privatize the profits and socialize the losses.

Just like they used terrorism as a buzz word to manipulate public opinion, they are using the word SOCIALISM today to try to get people to turn on the Democrats. It isn't working.

Now we just have to worry about the GOP stealing this election. I fear what will happen if they try.