Why aren't monkeys evolving now?

[Coloradomtnman]

What makes you think monkeys have stopped evolving?

The process can be very slow, on an observer's lifespan time scale.

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I don't understand that if man evolved from the ape why didn't the ape and monkey not evolve out of existance.

Evolving out of existence just means going extinct and the early forms of apes and monkeys from which modern apes and monkeys are evolved have done just that. Their evolved offspring are all that remain.

Yes, I know what liberal Democrats are evolved from.

So this isn't really an honest discourse for you, is it? You don't really care how science works, what the current scientific theories are, or how you're mistaken about or have mischaracterized science, right?

It would be if someone would explain what went on up to the Big Bang everyone uses as a starting point.

Nobody can do that. Nobody knows what happened prior to the Big Bang. In fact, nobody knows if there even was a Big Bang, but so far the theory seems to be a useful tool in making predictions and explaining all the available evidence.

 

[Coloradomtnman]

Species can evolve but species cannot evolve into other species.

According to our current understanding a pelican will not evolve into a eagle, so you're right in that context. Or a tiger won't evolve into an elephant. But as an example, according to the current theories, the black-tailed ground squirrels that are so ubiquitous to the Colorado Front Range mountains will, given enough time (tens of thousands of generations) and external pressures, no longer be recognizable as black-tailed ground squirrels. Instead there will be one or several different species of animal which may have replaced the black-tailed ground squirrel in its ecological niche or found a new niche or niches.

 

[HUGGY]

I did not ask him anything. He suggested that the universe was created with perfect spheres(balls) already formed. Neither one of you are prepared for this conversation.

You're asking for reason and logic from people who quite clearly reject reason and logic. I think you are the one who came unprepared.

Use these people as a springboard for your own message. Simply post the truth and move on. If you argue with trolls they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Drivel. I asked what went on up until the big bang. All the scholars say the big bang was the beginning. What went bang?

Interesting question- has nothing to do with evolution though.

Of course it was. According to the Einsteins here, there was a big bang that created everything which began to evolve and now we landed on a comet, looking for creation. That's only half the story. What went bang and what did it evolve from? Should be a simple explanation for all the mega-brainpower here..

I have a theory I call the "Big Bounce" Before the "bang" the previous universe collapsed upon itself and finally squeezed out all the space in the atoms. I believe it is possible that the final collapse had momentum and when the absolute mass had been reached the momentum triggered an overload, a reversal which was "The Big Bang". Something like the trigger mechanism in an atomic weapon.

 

[Taz]

They did evolve... into a crack smoking, school drop-out and no condom species.

 

[Desperado]

They did evolve... into a crack smoking, school drop-out and no condom species.

Maybe "Devolved" would be a better term for that

 

[007]

Species gradually evolve.

No, what you're describing is adaptation, nothing more.

Evolution is one mans theory, nothing more. There is no proof.

 

[Hollie]

Species gradually evolve.

No, what you're describing is adaptation, nothing more.

Evolution is one mans theory, nothing more. There is no proof.

You conspiracy theorists are a hoot.

 

[the_human_being]

Yes we do. Where are they? We can't even find one within the fossil record. We can't even explain where consciousness comes from.

There are many transitional fossils identified by paleontologists.

I guess they don't teach you that at the Benny Hinn madrassah.

I will admit that there exist within some in the Christian community that God first created the races and put these over the animals, the fish, the birds, etc. These became hunter-gathers. Their belief is that the Bible is a history of the Adamite race whom God breathed the breath of life into. The Adamites were called "Man" which equates to "thinker". God needed a thinking man to tend the garden, thus he formed Adam of the dust of the ground. These folks claim that by God breathing his own breath into Adam, Adam became a living soul with an immortal component. They also claim these previously created races are soulless creatures. Could it be that all you atheists are from the soulless group?

There is no such component in the human body. If your nonsense was original it would still be lacking in entertainment value.

Not in yours but in those of us who are descendants of Adam. Us "Human Beings"

The only way you could possibly impress me would be if you could prove you coined the saying "stuck on stupid".

I'm not trying to impress you. It is you and the other atheists who continually post threads in attempt to showcase your intelligence and feed your inflated egos.

 

[the_human_being]

Has anyone found an explanation of what existed from the beginning of time? Am I to believe that existance started with a big mass of matter that suddenly exploded and scattered round balls of matter to the far end of infinity and WHAM our solar system was formed and we had water and trees and plants and flowers and cute little monkeys running around and the flowers and trees and plants escaped evolution but the monkeys evolved to the point that we now have Obama and the Democrat party walking around on the ground and slinging shit at people?

Nobody has figured out what has happened since the beginning of time. There are theories, but theories aren't facts. And you aren't meant to believe theories. Theories are simply the best current explanation and description of the currently available evidence and a framework in which scientists can make predictions. If any prediction proves to be inaccurate the theory is either revised or scrapped. Belief has nothing to do with it, and neither does capital "T" truth. Science is either useful as a tool or not, and theories are merely an extension of that usefulness.

Finally someone said something sensible on here.

 

[the_human_being]

If man evolved from the monkey, then why are monkeys not still evolving?

Where's the monkey who is smarter than the other monkeys, who's trying to evolve into a man?

Why don't we see monkeys doing anything intelligent, like discovering fire, or inventing the wheel, or burying their dead with ceremonial ritual?

Has the evolutionary process stopped cold?

What makes you think monkeys have stopped evolving?

The process can be very slow, on an observer's lifespan time scale.

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That's the same old tired cop-out evolutionist fall back on every time.

 

[the_human_being]

Understand that atheists have every right to agitate as do evangelicals.

That does not mean we can't call either group for their errors.

Explain the obsession. Why is the fact that folks believe in God so profound on your minds that you can speak of nothing else.

 

[the_human_being]

If man evolved from the monkey, then why are monkeys not still evolving?

Where's the monkey who is smarter than the other monkeys, who's trying to evolve into a man?

Why don't we see monkeys doing anything intelligent, like discovering fire, or inventing the wheel, or burying their dead with ceremonial ritual?

Has the evolutionary process stopped cold?

This is remarkably ignorant.

Actually, it's a very good question. If you have such a monkey please produce him.

 

[the_human_being]

If man evolved from the monkey, then why are monkeys not still evolving?

Where's the monkey who is smarter than the other monkeys, who's trying to evolve into a man?

Why don't we see monkeys doing anything intelligent, like discovering fire, or inventing the wheel, or burying their dead with ceremonial ritual?

Has the evolutionary process stopped cold?

Who says they are not evolving?

And, man did not evolve from monkeys, but trying to educate someone who could make such a post is senseless.

Are you an old coot from Mississippi?

Produce one. Just one that can even speak.

 

[the_human_being]

Well, where in hell did the monkeys come from in the first place?

LOL You need to educate yourself regarding the theory of evolution. All land creatures evolved from sea creatures coming on land.

So then, where did the sea creatures come from? I'm curious.

Again. Educate yourself. We don't know where or how 'life' begins. Any organic compound is a sign of life. Murchison meteorite - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia Organic compounds, it is theorized, were in the sea on Earth, and over billions of years evolved into aquatic life forms that evolved into terrestial life forms. Didn't you take any science classes in school?

Well then, since I have no education and am willing to learn, I need to know where the Earth came from. That might be a start, Captain Knowledge.

The Earth came from space dust coalescing over eons. Meteors and comets added lots of iron and water.

Lots of good shows on TV explaining the latest theories.

Theories are worth very little to people who can think for themselves.

 

[the_human_being]

So you have no idea where it began either. Just started with the big bang, Got it.
So tell us what you would explain to a 5 year old when he asked where everything came from.

I don't spend much time talking to 5 year olds. "Where" everything came from may not even apply. One could go on and on into "the past" progressively asking the same question as the last known "creator" was revealed.

Much of the religious indoctrinated suggest god created everything. OK then who or what created this god and so on and so forth. Quickly(for some people) that strategy becomes futile. The suggestion that because the/a bible said so is perhaps the least likely path to the truth.

There are some questions that we with our human brains are just not able to proccess IMHO. To claim you or really any one living or one that has lived has the difinitive answer to this question is clown-like or worse a deception with the goal of attempting to take something from you or I for the inside track on the secrets of the universe.

I feel compelled to dress up in a costume within a room full of supposed artifacts and purported scribblings of ancient ones to address these questions. Nevermind that the farther back we go the less humans knew of the truth of their environment. Why would I ask the least informed people I know of for assistance to answer the toughest riddles?

No thanks...I'll pass on attempting to lie to a 5 year old.

You asked hime where God came from. He asked you where life came from. His question is just as fair and deserving of an answer as is yours.

I did not ask him anything. He suggested that the universe was created with perfect spheres(balls) already formed. Neither one of you are prepared for this conversation.

Negative. I asked you a question and you didn't answer because you don't know. No one has said how matter was formed and what happened up to the big bang. Everyone starts talking about the big bang and how it created life and flowers and monkeys and evolution.

You're right. Huggy doesn't know, I don't know, no scientist knows, and neither do you.

Nobody knows how matter and energy formed, or from where the universe came, of if the Big Bang actually happened.

You're mostly right that everyone starts with the big bang. Really they should say, "The current available evidence suggests that about 14 billion years ago the universe as we know it expanded from a hot dense mass. No one has any real idea what happened before that or from where or what came that hot, dense mass, though there is some speculation..."

You're a marvel on here. Someone who can actually think and speak honestly.

 

[the_human_being]

That doesn't change the fact of evolution. You are denying a reality. Humans are changing, evolving.

1). Evolution is not fact. It's a THEORY.

2). You are mistaking adaptation for evolution.

1. Evolution IS a fact. Children aren't identical to their parents. That's evolution in its most minute step. Viral mutation is another example. Bacteria becoming more resistant to anti-biotics is another. The domestication of animals is another. Different breeds of domesticated animals is another.

Evolution is not a theory. Natural Selection is one theory that attempts to describe the fact of evolution. Another theory is Sexual Selection. Another is genetic drift. There are several different theories which work in conjunction.

2. Adaptation is one way life evolves. It is a component of evolution.

Sorry, but no.

The THEORY of evolution will remain the THEORY of evolution until which time it is PROVEN, and that hasn't happened yet.

Sorry.

Absolutely!!

 

[the_human_being]

I don't spend much time talking to 5 year olds. "Where" everything came from may not even apply. One could go on and on into "the past" progressively asking the same question as the last known "creator" was revealed.

Much of the religious indoctrinated suggest god created everything. OK then who or what created this god and so on and so forth. Quickly(for some people) that strategy becomes futile. The suggestion that because the/a bible said so is perhaps the least likely path to the truth.

There are some questions that we with our human brains are just not able to proccess IMHO. To claim you or really any one living or one that has lived has the difinitive answer to this question is clown-like or worse a deception with the goal of attempting to take something from you or I for the inside track on the secrets of the universe.

I feel compelled to dress up in a costume within a room full of supposed artifacts and purported scribblings of ancient ones to address these questions. Nevermind that the farther back we go the less humans knew of the truth of their environment. Why would I ask the least informed people I know of for assistance to answer the toughest riddles?

No thanks...I'll pass on attempting to lie to a 5 year old.

You asked hime where God came from. He asked you where life came from. His question is just as fair and deserving of an answer as is yours.

I did not ask him anything. He suggested that the universe was created with perfect spheres(balls) already formed. Neither one of you are prepared for this conversation.

Negative. I asked you a question and you didn't answer because you don't know. No one has said how matter was formed and what happened up to the big bang. Everyone starts talking about the big bang and how it created life and flowers and monkeys and evolution.

You expect to know all that God knows????

He didn't give us that much brains!

I don't attempt to know everything but I've run into a few here who are brilliantly in love with their own intelligence. So smart they can't think or speak in laymans terms.

You must not be an atheist then. Atheists would kill one another off if put into a group setting fighting over which one is the most intelligent.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Understand that atheists have every right to agitate as do evangelicals.

That does not mean we can't call either group for their errors.

Explain the obsession. Why is the fact that folks believe in God so profound on your minds that you can speak of nothing else.

What folks? All Christians are no more the same than all scientists and all atheists.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The far social con young earth conspiracists are the latest monkeys to evolve, just behind the others.

 

[the_human_being]

Understand that atheists have every right to agitate as do evangelicals.

That does not mean we can't call either group for their errors.

Explain the obsession. Why is the fact that folks believe in God so profound on your minds that you can speak of nothing else.

What folks? All Christians are no more the same than all scientists and all atheists.

Your dishonesty is glaring. Any honest person need only look at the many OP's on this forum and readily see that it is atheists who are starting by far the most threads and making the most posts in order to showcase their perceived intelligence.