Why aren't environmentalists upset that 1 million barrels will be traveling every day from Vancouver to Asia on the open ocean?

[Toddsterpatriot]

Not bad at all considering the lack of carbon.

Yeah, if you don't need serious amounts of energy, borax is barely helpful.

It looks like you've forgotten your basic enthalapy.

 

[Crick]

Nah. I keep it under my pillow. So, do you put ANY value in reducing carbon and/or toxins from the millions of gallons of fuel being burned daily to enable our trips to the grocery store? Any?

 

[StormAl]

It would add 590,000 barrels per day to its existing capacity of 300,000 barrels per day.
From Vancouver, the oil could be shipped on tankers to Asia or elsewhere.

Canada's oil sands industry is taking a big hit » Yale Climate Connections

With the Biden administration cancellation of the Keystone XL Pipeline, a troubled industry seeks ways to transport its product.

yaleclimateconnections.org

Keystone was to carry 700 barrels over 1 mile on dry land with 16 monitors detecting links.
But now to move the oil from Canada to Asia means 1 million barrels traveling one mil on the open ocean 24 hours a day.
1 million barrels per day on the open ocean.
Remember Exxon Valdez 1989 and this was just 200,000 barrels.
So where are the environmentalists?
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Who says they are not upset?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Nah. I keep it under my pillow. So, do you put ANY value in reducing carbon and/or toxins from the millions of gallons of fuel being burned daily to enable our trips to the grocery store? Any?

Still laughing at your ignorance of chemistry and economics.

Cheap, reliable energy is awesome. Feel free to put some borax in your car.

 

[healthmyths]

It would add 590,000 barrels per day to its existing capacity of 300,000 barrels per day.
From Vancouver, the oil could be shipped on tankers to Asia or elsewhere.

Canada's oil sands industry is taking a big hit » Yale Climate Connections

With the Biden administration cancellation of the Keystone XL Pipeline, a troubled industry seeks ways to transport its product.

yaleclimateconnections.org

Keystone was to carry 700 barrels over 1 mile on dry land with 16 monitors detecting links.
But now to move the oil from Canada to Asia means 1 million barrels traveling one mil on the open ocean 24 hours a day.
1 million barrels per day on the open ocean.
Remember Exxon Valdez 1989 and this was just 200,000 barrels.
So where are the environmentalists?
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Who says they are not upset?

The environmentalists ARE not at all upset about the environmental impact of 1 million barrels having to travel on the open ocean in an oil tanker versus a one mile of pipeline potentially leaking 700 barrels. That's the illogic of environmentalists who claim the pipeline causes environmental damages.

 

[StormAl]

It would add 590,000 barrels per day to its existing capacity of 300,000 barrels per day.
From Vancouver, the oil could be shipped on tankers to Asia or elsewhere.

Canada's oil sands industry is taking a big hit » Yale Climate Connections

With the Biden administration cancellation of the Keystone XL Pipeline, a troubled industry seeks ways to transport its product.

yaleclimateconnections.org

Keystone was to carry 700 barrels over 1 mile on dry land with 16 monitors detecting links.
But now to move the oil from Canada to Asia means 1 million barrels traveling one mil on the open ocean 24 hours a day.
1 million barrels per day on the open ocean.
Remember Exxon Valdez 1989 and this was just 200,000 barrels.
So where are the environmentalists?
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Who says they are not upset?

The environmentalists ARE not at all upset about the environmental impact of 1 million barrels having to travel on the open ocean in an oil tanker versus a one mile of pipeline potentially leaking 700 barrels. That's the illogic of environmentalists who claim the pipeline causes environmental damages.

You know that is not true, healthmyths, yet you write it. You must have supported Trump.

 

[Unkotare]

Is there such a thing as "the closed ocean"?

 

[Crick]

It would add 590,000 barrels per day to its existing capacity of 300,000 barrels per day.
From Vancouver, the oil could be shipped on tankers to Asia or elsewhere.

Canada's oil sands industry is taking a big hit » Yale Climate Connections

With the Biden administration cancellation of the Keystone XL Pipeline, a troubled industry seeks ways to transport its product.

yaleclimateconnections.org

Keystone was to carry 700 barrels over 1 mile on dry land with 16 monitors detecting links.
But now to move the oil from Canada to Asia means 1 million barrels traveling one mil on the open ocean 24 hours a day.
1 million barrels per day on the open ocean.
Remember Exxon Valdez 1989 and this was just 200,000 barrels.
So where are the environmentalists?
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Who says they are not upset?

The environmentalists ARE not at all upset about the environmental impact of 1 million barrels having to travel on the open ocean in an oil tanker versus a one mile of pipeline potentially leaking 700 barrels. That's the illogic of environmentalists who claim the pipeline causes environmental damages.

Don't be an idiot. It's not the pipeline, its the mining of oil sands. THAT is a fooking environmental disaster.

 

[healthmyths]

It would add 590,000 barrels per day to its existing capacity of 300,000 barrels per day.
From Vancouver, the oil could be shipped on tankers to Asia or elsewhere.

Canada's oil sands industry is taking a big hit » Yale Climate Connections

With the Biden administration cancellation of the Keystone XL Pipeline, a troubled industry seeks ways to transport its product.

yaleclimateconnections.org

Keystone was to carry 700 barrels over 1 mile on dry land with 16 monitors detecting links.
But now to move the oil from Canada to Asia means 1 million barrels traveling one mil on the open ocean 24 hours a day.
1 million barrels per day on the open ocean.
Remember Exxon Valdez 1989 and this was just 200,000 barrels.
So where are the environmentalists?
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Who says they are not upset?

The environmentalists ARE not at all upset about the environmental impact of 1 million barrels having to travel on the open ocean in an oil tanker versus a one mile of pipeline potentially leaking 700 barrels. That's the illogic of environmentalists who claim the pipeline causes environmental damages.

Don't be an idiot. It's not the pipeline, its the mining of oil sands. THAT is a fooking environmental disaster.

Then what does a pipeline have to do with it? Protest Canada NOT USA. If no pipeline they'll ship by tanker. Simple.

 

[healthmyths]

It would add 590,000 barrels per day to its existing capacity of 300,000 barrels per day.
From Vancouver, the oil could be shipped on tankers to Asia or elsewhere.

Canada's oil sands industry is taking a big hit » Yale Climate Connections

With the Biden administration cancellation of the Keystone XL Pipeline, a troubled industry seeks ways to transport its product.

yaleclimateconnections.org

Keystone was to carry 700 barrels over 1 mile on dry land with 16 monitors detecting links.
But now to move the oil from Canada to Asia means 1 million barrels traveling one mil on the open ocean 24 hours a day.
1 million barrels per day on the open ocean.
Remember Exxon Valdez 1989 and this was just 200,000 barrels.
So where are the environmentalists?
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Who says they are not upset?

The environmentalists ARE not at all upset about the environmental impact of 1 million barrels having to travel on the open ocean in an oil tanker versus a one mile of pipeline potentially leaking 700 barrels. That's the illogic of environmentalists who claim the pipeline causes environmental damages.

You know that is not true, healthmyths, yet you write it. You must have supported Trump.

OK... simple common sense.
1 mile on the open ocean:1 million barrels in a oil tanker.
1 mile on dry land: 700 barrels.
Which would do more damage? Remember Exxon Valdez, March 1989 238,095 barrels damaging 1,200 miles

 

[StormAl]

It would add 590,000 barrels per day to its existing capacity of 300,000 barrels per day.
From Vancouver, the oil could be shipped on tankers to Asia or elsewhere.

Canada's oil sands industry is taking a big hit » Yale Climate Connections

With the Biden administration cancellation of the Keystone XL Pipeline, a troubled industry seeks ways to transport its product.

yaleclimateconnections.org

Keystone was to carry 700 barrels over 1 mile on dry land with 16 monitors detecting links.
But now to move the oil from Canada to Asia means 1 million barrels traveling one mil on the open ocean 24 hours a day.
1 million barrels per day on the open ocean.
Remember Exxon Valdez 1989 and this was just 200,000 barrels.
So where are the environmentalists?
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Who says they are not upset?

The environmentalists ARE not at all upset about the environmental impact of 1 million barrels having to travel on the open ocean in an oil tanker versus a one mile of pipeline potentially leaking 700 barrels. That's the illogic of environmentalists who claim the pipeline causes environmental damages.

You know that is not true, healthmyths, yet you write it. You must have supported Trump.

OK... simple common sense.
1 mile on the open ocean:1 million barrels in a oil tanker.
1 mile on dry land: 700 barrels.
Which would do more damage? Remember Exxon Valdez, March 1989 238,095 barrels damaging 1,200 miles

One accident in forty years? Nah.

 

[Crick]

It would add 590,000 barrels per day to its existing capacity of 300,000 barrels per day.
From Vancouver, the oil could be shipped on tankers to Asia or elsewhere.

Canada's oil sands industry is taking a big hit » Yale Climate Connections

With the Biden administration cancellation of the Keystone XL Pipeline, a troubled industry seeks ways to transport its product.

yaleclimateconnections.org

Keystone was to carry 700 barrels over 1 mile on dry land with 16 monitors detecting links.
But now to move the oil from Canada to Asia means 1 million barrels traveling one mil on the open ocean 24 hours a day.
1 million barrels per day on the open ocean.
Remember Exxon Valdez 1989 and this was just 200,000 barrels.
So where are the environmentalists?
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Who says they are not upset?

The environmentalists ARE not at all upset about the environmental impact of 1 million barrels having to travel on the open ocean in an oil tanker versus a one mile of pipeline potentially leaking 700 barrels. That's the illogic of environmentalists who claim the pipeline causes environmental damages.

You know that is not true, healthmyths, yet you write it. You must have supported Trump.

OK... simple common sense.
1 mile on the open ocean:1 million barrels in a oil tanker.
1 mile on dry land: 700 barrels.
Which would do more damage? Remember Exxon Valdez, March 1989 238,095 barrels damaging 1,200 miles

A break in the pipeline will not be limited to one mile's worth of oil. Here's a spill from Keystone of 400,000 gallons: Keystone oil spill casts doubt on the safety of proposed Keystone XL pipeline.

 

[surada]

It would add 590,000 barrels per day to its existing capacity of 300,000 barrels per day.
From Vancouver, the oil could be shipped on tankers to Asia or elsewhere.

Canada's oil sands industry is taking a big hit » Yale Climate Connections

With the Biden administration cancellation of the Keystone XL Pipeline, a troubled industry seeks ways to transport its product.

yaleclimateconnections.org

Keystone was to carry 700 barrels over 1 mile on dry land with 16 monitors detecting links.
But now to move the oil from Canada to Asia means 1 million barrels traveling one mil on the open ocean 24 hours a day.
1 million barrels per day on the open ocean.
Remember Exxon Valdez 1989 and this was just 200,000 barrels.
So where are the environmentalists?
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Who says they are not upset?

The environmentalists ARE not at all upset about the environmental impact of 1 million barrels having to travel on the open ocean in an oil tanker versus a one mile of pipeline potentially leaking 700 barrels. That's the illogic of environmentalists who claim the pipeline causes environmental damages.

Actually, its about 10 million bps transported in double walled tankers. Its much easier to clean up an ocean spill than one that spreads over rivers and creeks.

What do you mean "one mile of pipeline"?

The oil tankers and supertankers actually have a pretty good safety record. Modern pipelines are monitored in real time for pressure and flow rate.

 

[healthmyths]

It would add 590,000 barrels per day to its existing capacity of 300,000 barrels per day.
From Vancouver, the oil could be shipped on tankers to Asia or elsewhere.

Canada's oil sands industry is taking a big hit » Yale Climate Connections

With the Biden administration cancellation of the Keystone XL Pipeline, a troubled industry seeks ways to transport its product.

yaleclimateconnections.org

Keystone was to carry 700 barrels over 1 mile on dry land with 16 monitors detecting links.
But now to move the oil from Canada to Asia means 1 million barrels traveling one mil on the open ocean 24 hours a day.
1 million barrels per day on the open ocean.
Remember Exxon Valdez 1989 and this was just 200,000 barrels.
So where are the environmentalists?
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Who says they are not upset?

The environmentalists ARE not at all upset about the environmental impact of 1 million barrels having to travel on the open ocean in an oil tanker versus a one mile of pipeline potentially leaking 700 barrels. That's the illogic of environmentalists who claim the pipeline causes environmental damages.

Actually, its about 10 million bps transported in double walled tankers. Its much easier to clean up an ocean spill than one that spreads over rivers and creeks.

What do you mean "one mile of pipeline"?

The oil tankers and supertankers actually have a pretty good safety record. Modern pipelines are monitored in real time for pressure and flow rate.

You wrote: "Its much easier to clean up an ocean spill than one that spreads over rivers and creeks."
The long-term plan for rehabilitating damaged resources has yet to be implemented a full quarter century after the Exxon Valdez oil tanker ran aground in Prince William Sound, Alaska, spewing more than 11 million gallons of crude oil into the surrounding ecosystem.
In summary, in the entire Keystone debacle, NOT one major MSM etc., has considered this simple fact:
of the 185,000 miles of oil pipelines less than 16,300 barrels per year have spilled.

Here's how much oil has spilled from US pipelines since 2010

After the North Dakota Access Pipeline faced months of contentious protests, the US Army Corps of...

finance.yahoo.com

So for example: 16,300 barrels or 896,500 gallons per year divided by 185,000 miles or about 5 gallons per mile!

 

[healthmyths]

It would add 590,000 barrels per day to its existing capacity of 300,000 barrels per day.
From Vancouver, the oil could be shipped on tankers to Asia or elsewhere.

Canada's oil sands industry is taking a big hit » Yale Climate Connections

With the Biden administration cancellation of the Keystone XL Pipeline, a troubled industry seeks ways to transport its product.

yaleclimateconnections.org

Keystone was to carry 700 barrels over 1 mile on dry land with 16 monitors detecting links.
But now to move the oil from Canada to Asia means 1 million barrels traveling one mil on the open ocean 24 hours a day.
1 million barrels per day on the open ocean.
Remember Exxon Valdez 1989 and this was just 200,000 barrels.
So where are the environmentalists?
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Who says they are not upset?

The environmentalists ARE not at all upset about the environmental impact of 1 million barrels having to travel on the open ocean in an oil tanker versus a one mile of pipeline potentially leaking 700 barrels. That's the illogic of environmentalists who claim the pipeline causes environmental damages.

You know that is not true, healthmyths, yet you write it. You must have supported Trump.

OK... simple common sense.
1 mile on the open ocean:1 million barrels in a oil tanker.
1 mile on dry land: 700 barrels.
Which would do more damage? Remember Exxon Valdez, March 1989 238,095 barrels damaging 1,200 miles

A break in the pipeline will not be limited to one mile's worth of oil. Here's a spill from Keystone of 400,000 gallons: Keystone oil spill casts doubt on the safety of proposed Keystone XL pipeline.

400,000 divided by 55 gallons per barrel is 7,272 barrels.
Now how much oil by tankers spill each year: FACT:
The total volume of oil lost to the environment from tanker spills in 2020 was approximately 1,000 tonnes.

Oil Tanker Spill Statistics 2023 - ITOPF

Oil Tanker Spill Statistics 2023- ITOPF - Promoting Effective Spill Response

www.itopf.org

Now 1 tonne is equal to 264 gallons or 4.8 barrels...
Annual lost in 2020 (1,000 tonnes (4.8 barrels ) 4,800 barrels.
OIL spills by 185,000 miles pipelines:5 gallons per mile.!

 

[Cellblock2429]

It would add 590,000 barrels per day to its existing capacity of 300,000 barrels per day.
From Vancouver, the oil could be shipped on tankers to Asia or elsewhere.

Canada's oil sands industry is taking a big hit » Yale Climate Connections

With the Biden administration cancellation of the Keystone XL Pipeline, a troubled industry seeks ways to transport its product.

yaleclimateconnections.org

Keystone was to carry 700 barrels over 1 mile on dry land with 16 monitors detecting links.
But now to move the oil from Canada to Asia means 1 million barrels traveling one mil on the open ocean 24 hours a day.
1 million barrels per day on the open ocean.
Remember Exxon Valdez 1989 and this was just 200,000 barrels.
So where are the environmentalists?
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/----/ Because liberalism is a mental disorder.

 

[danielpalos]

It would add 590,000 barrels per day to its existing capacity of 300,000 barrels per day.
From Vancouver, the oil could be shipped on tankers to Asia or elsewhere.

Canada's oil sands industry is taking a big hit » Yale Climate Connections

With the Biden administration cancellation of the Keystone XL Pipeline, a troubled industry seeks ways to transport its product.

yaleclimateconnections.org

Keystone was to carry 700 barrels over 1 mile on dry land with 16 monitors detecting links.
But now to move the oil from Canada to Asia means 1 million barrels traveling one mil on the open ocean 24 hours a day.
1 million barrels per day on the open ocean.
Remember Exxon Valdez 1989 and this was just 200,000 barrels.
So where are the environmentalists?
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/----/ Because liberalism is a mental disorder.

//----//Conservativism is a moral hypocrisy disorder.

 

[StormAl]

healthmyths is fine with shipping oil overseas.

He is yelling because, apparently, he likes to.

 

[healthmyths]

It would add 590,000 barrels per day to its existing capacity of 300,000 barrels per day.
From Vancouver, the oil could be shipped on tankers to Asia or elsewhere.

Canada's oil sands industry is taking a big hit » Yale Climate Connections

With the Biden administration cancellation of the Keystone XL Pipeline, a troubled industry seeks ways to transport its product.

yaleclimateconnections.org

Keystone was to carry 700 barrels over 1 mile on dry land with 16 monitors detecting links.
But now to move the oil from Canada to Asia means 1 million barrels traveling one mil on the open ocean 24 hours a day.
1 million barrels per day on the open ocean.
Remember Exxon Valdez 1989 and this was just 200,000 barrels.
So where are the environmentalists?
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/----/ Because liberalism is a mental disorder.

//----//Conservativism is a moral hypocrisy disorder.

What ever you say but it doesn't alter reality...i.e. 1 million barrels of oil in an oil tanker on the open ocean
can do more damage than 700 barrels traveling one mile on dry land.
NO way you can alter that reality.

 

[healthmyths]

It would add 590,000 barrels per day to its existing capacity of 300,000 barrels per day.
From Vancouver, the oil could be shipped on tankers to Asia or elsewhere.

Canada's oil sands industry is taking a big hit » Yale Climate Connections

With the Biden administration cancellation of the Keystone XL Pipeline, a troubled industry seeks ways to transport its product.

yaleclimateconnections.org

Keystone was to carry 700 barrels over 1 mile on dry land with 16 monitors detecting links.
But now to move the oil from Canada to Asia means 1 million barrels traveling one mil on the open ocean 24 hours a day.
1 million barrels per day on the open ocean.
Remember Exxon Valdez 1989 and this was just 200,000 barrels.
So where are the environmentalists?
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Who says they are not upset?

The environmentalists ARE not at all upset about the environmental impact of 1 million barrels having to travel on the open ocean in an oil tanker versus a one mile of pipeline potentially leaking 700 barrels. That's the illogic of environmentalists who claim the pipeline causes environmental damages.

You know that is not true, healthmyths, yet you write it. You must have supported Trump.

OK... simple common sense.
1 mile on the open ocean:1 million barrels in a oil tanker.
1 mile on dry land: 700 barrels.
Which would do more damage? Remember Exxon Valdez, March 1989 238,095 barrels damaging 1,200 miles

A break in the pipeline will not be limited to one mile's worth of oil. Here's a spill from Keystone of 400,000 gallons: Keystone oil spill casts doubt on the safety of proposed Keystone XL pipeline.

Here is the damage done by the 200,000 barrels versus the damage of 7,200 barrels.