My Three Global Warming Fraud Websites

[ChemEngineer]

I began assembling these at least ten years ago and cannot begin to keep up with the avalanche of evidence against the Global Warming Fraud. If you have something HUGE and you can't find it in any of these, please post it here and PM me so I can pile on more.... as if it were needed.



http://Ecohypocrites.blogspot.com

Across America and around the world, sanctimonious pretenders of environmental piety tell everyone else to cut back, stop burning that evil fossil fuel, and save the earth. Then they slap each other on the back and do as they please, not as they preach. Take Al Gore, please. Or Barack Obama. Or United Nations bureaucrats. Or Arnold Schwarzenegger. As governor of California, he signed Executive Order S-03-5, which mandates an 80% reduction in greenhouse gases based on 1990 usage. Has he or any of these other eco-hypocrites cut back their own "carbon footprint" by 80%? Not remotely.

Here is a current schedule of some of the seminars run by eco-hypocrites around the world. Instead of videoconferencing, and practicing what they preach, they fly all over the place, no doubt largely at public expense, to wine and dine and shake hands and congratulate each other on how wonderful they all are.
Environment events | Conal Conference Alerts Topic Listing

http://EnvironmentalistHypocrisy.blogspot.com













World leaders and organizations continue to enact legislation requiring citizens to cut carbon dioxide emissions 80% within the not too distant future, as a result of hysterical claims by biased researchers whose hands are deep into the pockets of government grants funding their work. Imminent doom and gloom is relentlessly predicted if we don't "do something now"!

The odd thing is that these pretend environmentalists don't practice what they preach to everyone else. Barack Obama flies Air Force One to Hawaii every Christmas, at profound public expense and carbon footprinting. He flew Air Force One to Ohio one Earth Day to plant a single tree in a kind of faux paean to the environment. Obama could have appeared on close-captioned television. He might have videoconferenced, but no, he had to appear in person, this Anointed One, to hear his fawning audience clap and cheer.

Al Gore flies around the world in his private jet, attracting many tens of thousands of adoring fans, who together burn hundreds of thousands of gallons of fuel, to hear him repeat himself, yet again.

Rick Steves panders to scores of millions of travelers, ending every "evocative" program with the admonition to "keep on traveling." This is ecohypocrisy at its worst, since he's always preaching the human-caused climate change narrative. But then again, Rick is a far left-wing extremist, who never hesitates to remind his fawning audience about "right-wing fascism" when in fact the fascists were left-wing socialists. The very name of the Nazi Party was the National Socialists. "We find different truths to be self-evident and God-given." - Rick Steves The devil could not have put it better than that.

United Nations bigwigs fly around the world, proselytizing the horrors of global warming, recently renamed to climate change, since things have not been getting nearly as warm as their models have predicted. The liberal media turn a blind eye to these hypocritical actions of their fellow liberals. It's disgraceful of all of them. Disgraceful. It is disgraceful for the preachers of global warming to do exactly the opposite of what they demand of the rest of us. It is disgraceful of the media to ignore their hypocrisy. It is disgraceful for all those claiming to be saviors of the environment not to expose the widespread hypocrisy of their ideological brethren.

Numerous magazines feature articles in support of global warming / climate change. I just read the May 2015 issue of Smithsonian magazine. It is exactly like all the previous issues, that is, completely hypocritical.



Page 2 and 3 present an advertisement encouraging readers to burn, baby, burn. Fly or drive to the Mississippi River and ride a fossil-fuel powered paddlewheel boat with American Cruise Lines.
(Price not published)



The hypocrisy continues Page 7 invites Smithsonian readers to burn enough fuel to travel to Washington, D.C. for the May 15-17th The FUTURE IS HERE FESTIVAL.

Smithsonian could have sold CD roms of the festival. Smithsonian might have broadcast it live on television, or even on a webinair. But how much more absolutely fabulous it is to travel to D.C. and meet other wealthy hypocrites, who preach environmentalism while practicing anti-conservation on a grand scale.



Oh but the Smithsonian hypocrisy is just getting warmed up. Page 13:


"YOU REALLY CAN HAVE IT ALL"

The Smithsonian Collection by Smithsonian Journeys
Regent Seven Seas Cruises
(Prices not shown here either)

Page 15

"SEE THE WORLD YOUR WAY"
From Africa to Asia, Australia to South America - we take you beyond the expected travel experience.. Audley Travel
(Prices not shown)

Page 19

"Request your Free Catalog and Book Your Trip Today!"

(Picture of the Eiffel Tower is shown, but no prices.)

Page 88 & 89

"Maine Windjammer Cruises"

Page 93

"ADVENTURE TO GO!"
Sea Eagle inflatable kayak

(Drive out into the wilderness and have lots of fun. Global warming can wait a generation. Or so.)

Page 98 & 99

"Caravan Guided Vacations Since 1952"
$1095 to $1395 for 8 to 10 days
(Burning fuel and "poisoning the air" all the way)

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http://TheGlobalWarmingFraud.wordpress.com

The Global Warming Fraud​

Posted on April 5, 2012
“A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it.”- Max Planck, Nobel Laureate in Physics
October 2021

· “The warmest temperatures in the U.S. have not risen in the past fifty years,” Koonin writes, according to the U.S. government’s Climate Science Special Report.
· “Humans have had no detectable impact on hurricanes over the past century,” according to the 2014 National Climate Assessment.
· “Since the middle of the twentieth century, the number of significant tornadoes hasn’t changed much at all, but the strongest storms have become less frequent,” according to National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration data (NOAA).
· “The rate of global sea-level rise 70 years ago was as large as what we observe today,” according to the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).
· Instead of droughts, “the past fifty years have been slightly wetter than average” in the United States, according to NOAA figures.
· Rather than famine, “in the fifty years from 1961 to 2011, global yields of wheat, rice, and maize … each more than doubled,” according to the IPCC.
· “The net economic impact of human-induced climate change will be minimal through at least the end of this century.”

It would be helpful if the media covered all sides of the climate issue.
September 2021
The UN Admits That The Paris Climate Deal Was A Fraud
The UN Admits That The Paris Climate Deal Was A Fraudinvestors.com
____________________
January 2021 Hanoi John Kerry has been appointed Climate Czar by Traitor Joe Briben.
Hanoi John Kerry created 365,967 pounds (166 metric tons) of carbon dioxide in 2020 just by flying his private personal jet. You sheep who follow and revere Hanoi John Kerry, ride your bicycles. Take the bus. Kerry travels in ultimate luxury while preaching something else to you.

October 10, 2006 Nobel Prize Acceptance Speech by Al Gore
So today, we dumped another 70 million tons of global-warming pollution into the thin shell of atmosphere surrounding our planet, as if it were an open sewer. And tomorrow, we will dump a slightly larger amount, with the cumulative concentrations now trapping more and more heat from the sun.
[Note: Carbon dioxide is NOT pollution. You exhale it with every breath and it promotes faster plant growth, as a fertilizer.]
//
We are what is wrong, and we must make it right.
[Says the guy who flies around in a private jet and takes limousines everywhere.]
Last September 21, as the Northern Hemisphere tilted away from the sun, scientists reported with unprecedented distress that the North Polar ice cap is “falling off a cliff.” One study estimated that it could be completely gone during summer in less than 22 years. Another new study, to be presented by U.S. Navy researchers later this week, warns it could happen in as little as 7 years.
[Like so many other failed predictions, this one never happened.]
__________________________________

 

[flacaltenn]

I began assembling these at least ten years ago and cannot begin to keep up with the avalanche of evidence against the Global Warming Fraud. If you have something HUGE and you can't find it in any of these, please post it here and PM me so I can pile on more.... as if it were needed.



http://Ecohypocrites.blogspot.com

Across America and around the world, sanctimonious pretenders of environmental piety tell everyone else to cut back, stop burning that evil fossil fuel, and save the earth. Then they slap each other on the back and do as they please, not as they preach. Take Al Gore, please. Or Barack Obama. Or United Nations bureaucrats. Or Arnold Schwarzenegger. As governor of California, he signed Executive Order S-03-5, which mandates an 80% reduction in greenhouse gases based on 1990 usage. Has he or any of these other eco-hypocrites cut back their own "carbon footprint" by 80%? Not remotely.

Here is a current schedule of some of the seminars run by eco-hypocrites around the world. Instead of videoconferencing, and practicing what they preach, they fly all over the place, no doubt largely at public expense, to wine and dine and shake hands and congratulate each other on how wonderful they all are.
Environment events | Conal Conference Alerts Topic Listing

http://EnvironmentalistHypocrisy.blogspot.com













World leaders and organizations continue to enact legislation requiring citizens to cut carbon dioxide emissions 80% within the not too distant future, as a result of hysterical claims by biased researchers whose hands are deep into the pockets of government grants funding their work. Imminent doom and gloom is relentlessly predicted if we don't "do something now"!

The odd thing is that these pretend environmentalists don't practice what they preach to everyone else. Barack Obama flies Air Force One to Hawaii every Christmas, at profound public expense and carbon footprinting. He flew Air Force One to Ohio one Earth Day to plant a single tree in a kind of faux paean to the environment. Obama could have appeared on close-captioned television. He might have videoconferenced, but no, he had to appear in person, this Anointed One, to hear his fawning audience clap and cheer.

Al Gore flies around the world in his private jet, attracting many tens of thousands of adoring fans, who together burn hundreds of thousands of gallons of fuel, to hear him repeat himself, yet again.

Rick Steves panders to scores of millions of travelers, ending every "evocative" program with the admonition to "keep on traveling." This is ecohypocrisy at its worst, since he's always preaching the human-caused climate change narrative. But then again, Rick is a far left-wing extremist, who never hesitates to remind his fawning audience about "right-wing fascism" when in fact the fascists were left-wing socialists. The very name of the Nazi Party was the National Socialists. "We find different truths to be self-evident and God-given." - Rick Steves The devil could not have put it better than that.

United Nations bigwigs fly around the world, proselytizing the horrors of global warming, recently renamed to climate change, since things have not been getting nearly as warm as their models have predicted. The liberal media turn a blind eye to these hypocritical actions of their fellow liberals. It's disgraceful of all of them. Disgraceful. It is disgraceful for the preachers of global warming to do exactly the opposite of what they demand of the rest of us. It is disgraceful of the media to ignore their hypocrisy. It is disgraceful for all those claiming to be saviors of the environment not to expose the widespread hypocrisy of their ideological brethren.

Numerous magazines feature articles in support of global warming / climate change. I just read the May 2015 issue of Smithsonian magazine. It is exactly like all the previous issues, that is, completely hypocritical.



Page 2 and 3 present an advertisement encouraging readers to burn, baby, burn. Fly or drive to the Mississippi River and ride a fossil-fuel powered paddlewheel boat with American Cruise Lines.
(Price not published)



The hypocrisy continues Page 7 invites Smithsonian readers to burn enough fuel to travel to Washington, D.C. for the May 15-17th The FUTURE IS HERE FESTIVAL.

Smithsonian could have sold CD roms of the festival. Smithsonian might have broadcast it live on television, or even on a webinair. But how much more absolutely fabulous it is to travel to D.C. and meet other wealthy hypocrites, who preach environmentalism while practicing anti-conservation on a grand scale.



Oh but the Smithsonian hypocrisy is just getting warmed up. Page 13:


"YOU REALLY CAN HAVE IT ALL"

The Smithsonian Collection by Smithsonian Journeys
Regent Seven Seas Cruises
(Prices not shown here either)

Page 15

"SEE THE WORLD YOUR WAY"
From Africa to Asia, Australia to South America - we take you beyond the expected travel experience.. Audley Travel
(Prices not shown)

Page 19

"Request your Free Catalog and Book Your Trip Today!"

(Picture of the Eiffel Tower is shown, but no prices.)

Page 88 & 89

"Maine Windjammer Cruises"

Page 93

"ADVENTURE TO GO!"
Sea Eagle inflatable kayak

(Drive out into the wilderness and have lots of fun. Global warming can wait a generation. Or so.)

Page 98 & 99

"Caravan Guided Vacations Since 1952"
$1095 to $1395 for 8 to 10 days
(Burning fuel and "poisoning the air" all the way)

____________________________________

http://TheGlobalWarmingFraud.wordpress.com

The Global Warming Fraud​

Posted on April 5, 2012
“A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it.”- Max Planck, Nobel Laureate in Physics
October 2021

It would be helpful if the media covered all sides of the climate issue.
September 2021
The UN Admits That The Paris Climate Deal Was A Fraud
The UN Admits That The Paris Climate Deal Was A Fraudinvestors.com
____________________
January 2021 Hanoi John Kerry has been appointed Climate Czar by Traitor Joe Briben.
Hanoi John Kerry created 365,967 pounds (166 metric tons) of carbon dioxide in 2020 just by flying his private personal jet. You sheep who follow and revere Hanoi John Kerry, ride your bicycles. Take the bus. Kerry travels in ultimate luxury while preaching something else to you.

October 10, 2006 Nobel Prize Acceptance Speech by Al Gore
So today, we dumped another 70 million tons of global-warming pollution into the thin shell of atmosphere surrounding our planet, as if it were an open sewer. And tomorrow, we will dump a slightly larger amount, with the cumulative concentrations now trapping more and more heat from the sun.
[Note: Carbon dioxide is NOT pollution. You exhale it with every breath and it promotes faster plant growth, as a fertilizer.]
//
We are what is wrong, and we must make it right.
[Says the guy who flies around in a private jet and takes limousines everywhere.]
Last September 21, as the Northern Hemisphere tilted away from the sun, scientists reported with unprecedented distress that the North Polar ice cap is “falling off a cliff.” One study estimated that it could be completely gone during summer in less than 22 years. Another new study, to be presented by U.S. Navy researchers later this week, warns it could happen in as little as 7 years.
[Like so many other failed predictions, this one never happened.]
__________________________________

It's OK to rely on non-science sites for SOME insight -- but the circus that exists in the political policy and greed/fraud by politicians and other leaders aint where the war is won. It's won in the science that becomes UNRECOGNIZABLE once the media and political entities start hawking it.

 

[Darkwind]

No one here will address any of the information and facts of your post. Get ready for a disapointment.

 

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

The one thing I've learned as fact, being an observer of human nature and what humans do and say...........

Those that whine, bitch, moan, cry, foam at the mouth, and throw tantrums and create acts of economic war, terrorism, and criminal activity ARE ALL IN THE EXTREME MINORITY! I don't care if they are rabid psychopaths, spewing their disinformation, lies, treachery, and terrorism about racism, the economy, the weather, battle of the sexes, or whatever.......they are in the MINORITY!

It only seems like they are massive, because this is what they media makes their money off of.......the psychotic lunatics, frauds, and liars. Of course they are going to spin it, warp it, twist it, and prostitute it to their advantage, because thats where they get their money from.........sheeples tuning in for this bullshit.

Just be assured, the louder they throw their tantrums, the more they foam at the mouth..........the more they are laughed at, ridiculed, and subsequently ignored.

 

[Oddball]

One of the best clearing houses for AGW hoax debunking available....

Climate Depot

A project of CFACT

www.climatedepot.com

 

[flacaltenn]

No one here will address any of the information and facts of your post. Get ready for a disapointment.

I'm aware of the fact that world/national political leadership is USING GW as crisis to achieve goals. Most everybody realizes that. But, I'm DEPENDING on any media or political leadership to MAKE THE CASE that GW has been hyped WAAAY beyond any science that has "declared an emergency".

IN FACT, over the 30+ years I've been following this -- idjits like John Kerry/Al Gore just sound more unhinged and shrill than earlier as the EVIDENCE SHOWS -- the INITIAL catastrophic GW predictions were a mixture of hype, ignoring all other explanations, bad modeling and using WORSE case scenarios that haven't shown any empirical evidence to support them.

 

[ChemEngineer]

It's OK to rely on non-science sites for SOME insight -- but the circus that exists in the political policy and greed/fraud by politicians and other leaders aint where the war is won. It's won in the science that becomes UNRECOGNIZABLE once the media and political entities start hawking it.

No media needs to touch science to make it fraudulent. It has been corrupted from the inside for decades.... decades.

1. Leftists dominate academia. They shout down all dissent. Silence it. Their way or shut the hell up, including science.

Take evolution please.

Take climate change please.

2. I shall repeat fraudulent science I have posted elsewhere, beginning with "ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny." This LIE was disproven in court 150 years ago and yet biology books have continued to parrot this lie through to the 21st Century.

3. The PRETENSE that science depends on "consensus" is lunacy. Facts are independent of "consensus." As a famous climatologist said in his book discounting global warming, "Galileo was once the only person on earth who believed the earth revolved around the sun but he was right!"

4. Today, every science lab in the world calls their charts "The periodic table of the elements."
There is NOTHING "periodic" about the table. It is the elements which are periodic. It should be called "the table of periodic elements," but it is not. We do not say "the black man's eye," we say "the man's black eye."

5. Then there is the contemporary nonsense of wearing masks with holes ten times the size of the Covid 19 virus and the compound nonsense of jabbing people with RNA modifiers that have killed and maimed. This craziness is being mandated! By the Left, of course. The tyrannical, pompous, condescending know-it-all Left that doesn't know a man from a woman. How do they go to the bathroom, M or W?

 

[Sunsettommy]

Try Climate Audit the website that smashed the stupid Hockey Stick paper and exposed a lot of other bad science research over the years.

 

[flacaltenn]

1. Leftists dominate academia. They shout down all dissent. Silence it. Their way or shut the hell up, including science.

Take evolution please.

Take climate change please.

And what they produce on sexual orientations or CChange is inconsistent garbage that pollutes the minds they are paid to screw with -- but their work will not stand. Because just as they fail by making "woman" unrecognizable -- while they are "ALL ABOUT WOMEN" -- is just transparent crap - not science.

For GW -- there WAS an embargo and conspiracy to BURY research in CChange from about the 90s to about 2010 -- but SINCE 2010, cooler heads have prevailed and DISSENT IS BACK in a big way.

3. The PRETENSE that science depends on "consensus" is lunacy. Facts are independent of "consensus." As a famous climatologist said in his book discounting global warming, "Galileo was once the only person on earth who believed the earth revolved around the sun but he was right!"

Like I said before -- there's NO scientific consensus on ALL of GW theory required to declare an emergency. It's "an issue" that MAYBE should drive public policy in subtle ways. And NO ONE in the entire field of GW science has EVER declared "the science is settled" to my knowledge.

The reason I suggested you KEEP ALL these sources close at hand, but dont get CONSUMED by what is said by media/politicos who MOSTLY have shunned debate and wont answer questions -- is to focus on HOW UNsuccessful they've been in public opinion.

GW barely ever bursts thru the #5 spot in opinion on the "biggest crisis" DESPITE all that noise.

It ALL falls apart when you poke back at them. When's the last "great debate" on GW??? Who won???? It's not between Kerry or Al Gore and other politicos -- that's for sure.

 

[Sunsettommy]

And what they produce on sexual orientations or CChange is inconsistent garbage that pollutes the minds they are paid to screw with -- but their work will not stand. Because just as they fail by making "woman" unrecognizable -- while they are "ALL ABOUT WOMEN" -- is just transparent crap - not science.

For GW -- there WAS an embargo and conspiracy to BURY research in CChange from about the 90s to about 2010 -- but SINCE 2010, cooler heads have prevailed and DISSENT IS BACK in a big way.



Like I said before -- there's NO scientific consensus on ALL of GW theory required to declare an emergency. It's "an issue" that MAYBE should drive public policy in subtle ways. And NO ONE in the entire field of GW science has EVER declared "the science is settled" to my knowledge.

The reason I suggested you KEEP ALL these sources close at hand, but dont get CONSUMED by what is said by media/politicos who MOSTLY have shunned debate and wont answer questions -- is to focus on HOW UNsuccessful they've been in public opinion.

GW barely ever bursts thru the #5 spot in opinion on the "biggest crisis" DESPITE all that noise.

It ALL falls apart when you poke back at them. When's the last "great debate" on GW??? Who won???? It's not between Kerry or Al Gore and other politicos -- that's for sure.

I see a profound retreat in debating the AGW stuff in recent months in forums I visit as the evidence that "man made warming" is a crock of shit and unsupported by evidence to the point they avoid the CONTENT of highly damaging articles completely examples below:

Watts Up With That?

Where Is The “Climate Emergency”?​

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Climate Audit

CORRECTIONS TO THE MANN et. al. (1998) PROXY DATA BASE AND NORTHERN HEMISPHERIC AVERAGE TEMPERATURE SERIES

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Warmist Gooks completely ignore what Marcott says about hi paper even when his words are posted right in their faces which is why their climate crap is DEAD!

They also ignore or idiotically try to explain away the highly damaging Climate E-mails back in 2009 as well which they never recovered from.

Their continual failures of numerous climate summits is highly obvious,

The failure of climate Gookism nation is obvious they should stop eating media fed shit cereals and grow up into reality.

 

[flacaltenn]

I see a profound retreat in debating the AGW stuff in recent months in forums I visit as the evidence that "man made warming" is a crock of shit and unsupported by evidence to the point they avoid the CONTENT of highly damaging articles completely examples below:

Watts Up With That?

Where Is The “Climate Emergency”?​

===

Climate Audit

CORRECTIONS TO THE MANN et. al. (1998) PROXY DATA BASE AND NORTHERN HEMISPHERIC AVERAGE TEMPERATURE SERIES

===

Warmist Gooks completely ignore what Marcott says about hi paper even when his words are posted right in their faces which is why their climate crap is DEAD!

They also ignore or idiotically try to explain away the highly damaging Climate E-mails back in 2009 as well which they never recovered from.

Their continual failures of numerous climate summits is highly obvious,

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The failure of climate Gookism nation is obvious they should stop eating media fed shit cereals and grow up into reality.

Climate conferences end quite frequently as a bidding war for "wealth re-distribution". Because money talks -- and science walks. LOL...

My consistent position since before "Rio" summit I guess -- is that the EMERGENCY is cancelled but there still is an issue that can't be ignored for another 80 or 100 years. But who can predict our energy mix in 40 years -- never mind 80. And you COULD solve it TOMORROW with nuclear electric generation and hydrogen transportation fuel.

I'm glad the noise level is back to "library quiet".. Because I want that LONG list of OTHER environmental issues that have been STOMPED TO DEATH by the GW stampede to take center stage again. This FORUM should be 80% "everything else" environmental and has not been since I arrived at USMB. The Warmers have done a damage by blaming EVERYTHING from the coral to oysters, to penguins and polar bears on JUST GW instead of the other factors involved.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Climate conferences end quite frequently as a bidding war for "wealth re-distribution". Because money talks -- and science walks. LOL...

My consistent position since before "Rio" summit I guess -- is that the EMERGENCY is cancelled but there still is an issue that can't be ignored for another 80 or 100 years. But who can predict our energy mix in 40 years -- never mind 80. And you COULD solve it TOMORROW with nuclear electric generation and hydrogen transportation fuel.

I'm glad the noise level is back to "library quiet".. Because I want that LONG list of OTHER environmental issues that have been STOMPED TO DEATH by the GW stampede to take center stage again. This FORUM should be 80% "everything else" environmental and has not been since I arrived at USMB. The Warmers have done a damage by blaming EVERYTHING from the coral to oysters, to penguins and polar bears on JUST GW instead of the other factors involved.

Yeah, and I pissed about it have tried to get people to use long known building methods that would quickly erase 75% of electric needs without sacrificing comfort but they generally don't give a shit.

Can capture rainwater for gardening use and for drinking water as well when properly filtered that would reduce water waste.

 

[ReinyDays]

I think you need a more healthy hobby ... just saying ... try tennis or running or something ...

 

[ReinyDays]

Yeah, and I pissed about it have tried to get people to use long known building methods that would quickly erase 75% of electric needs without sacrificing comfort but they generally don't give a shit.

Can capture rainwater for gardening use and for drinking water as well when properly filtered that would reduce water waste.

We can all do our part by ditching our air conditioners ... that helps to solve quite a number of environmental issues ...

I feel sorry for Portland, Oregon ... the Columbia River there is choked full of plutonium ... messes people up there bad ... be nice to get Hanford and Oakridge cleaned up before too long ... with how fast we need to build nuclear power plants now, several are sure to bust open ... more clean-up ...

 

[Sunsettommy]

We can all do our part by ditching our air conditioners ... that helps to solve quite a number of environmental issues ...

I feel sorry for Portland, Oregon ... the Columbia River there is choked full of plutonium ... messes people up there bad ... be nice to get Hanford and Oakridge cleaned up before too long ... with how fast we need to build nuclear power plants now, several are sure to bust open ... more clean-up ...

I stopped using that energy hog A/C 10 years ago for a swamp cooler.

The Columbia River isn't filled with Plutonium why the hyperbole?

Monitoring Hanford's groundwater and protecting the Columbia River​

In 2012 I had a minor role in the measurement of the Contamination site at an Island just 4 miles from my house, there the levels were still very low at the time guiding the Ecologist around the Island that used to be a homestead many decades ago.

 

[flacaltenn]

I feel sorry for Portland, Oregon ... the Columbia River there is choked full of plutonium ... messes people up there bad ... be nice to get Hanford and Oakridge cleaned up before too long ... with how fast we need to build nuclear power plants now, several are sure to bust open ... more clean-up ...

Bingo !!! That's an "existential threat" to this country. Biggest polluter is USUALLY the Federal govt. Been harping on that for years and little has been done.

But I doubt that commercial nuclear is much of the SAME kind of threat. At Hanford and Savanah River and Oakridge -- most of the waste was just packed into 55Gal drums and left to rot. There's a DIFF between the waste from REFINING fissile materials for bombs and the solid fuel used for power plants. HOWEVER -- there SHOULD BE a National Repository as was PROMISED 50 years ago so that those nuclear fuel rods stored on site in pools dont' suddenly get exposed. OR -- we do what the French have done and recycle some and put the remainder into lead glass casings to neutralize them for eons.

The amount of nuclear fuel needed to run the average American house is about 1.5 oz. That's about the size of an AA battery. There IS NO fuel with LESS waste and pollution. We can handle THAT -- if anyone thinks we can handle toxic battery waste from EVehicles and "grid scale storage" warehouses of batteries to make solar/wind LESS flaky.

 

[flacaltenn]

The Columbia River isn't filled with Plutonium why the hyperbole?

On site at Hanford, they just plow the rotting drums of stuff into the ground without a lot of contamination control. Gets SOOO bad -- they bury the bulldozers also.. That's a lot of can-kicking down a short road -- to a REAL crisis.

 

[flacaltenn]

Sunsettommy If you want a bedtime horror story -- go get this download about waste at Hanford, get this PDF download.

Appendix C Waste Disposal Practices - Hanford Site​

https://pdw.hanford.gov/download/905f8bbb-b9b3-4448-85f0-a7362ad0a660

16 cars into the trench by bulldozers using long cables. Before 1970, the primary concerns during burial 17 operations were to ensure confinement of contaminated materials during transport,

 

[Sunsettommy]

Sunsettommy If you want a bedtime horror story -- go get this download about waste at Hanford, get this PDF download.

​

Appendix C Waste Disposal Practices - Hanford Site​

https://pdw.hanford.gov/download/905f8bbb-b9b3-4448-85f0-a7362ad0a660

16 cars into the trench by bulldozers using long cables. Before 1970, the primary concerns during burial 17 operations were to ensure confinement of contaminated materials during transport,

I have known this stuff for years, I live in the region since 1964, have toured the area several times.

 

[Sunsettommy]

On site at Hanford, they just plow the rotting drums of stuff into the ground without a lot of contamination control. Gets SOOO bad -- they bury the bulldozers also.. That's a lot of can-kicking down a short road -- to a REAL crisis.

I just remembered that Hanford monitors the City of Richland water intake area (the water going to the water treatment plant for potable water use) for contamination measurements which they do on a regular basis, I have seen the set up personally since I used to help maintain the Irrigation pump for Leslie Groves Park which is in the same intake area.

The latest pump for Irrigation was a 40 Horsepower delivering 450 PGM but I never ran it above 400 PGM to prevent Cavitation and maintain stable pressure at around 90 PSI.

The water was always safe for use even the Richland Wastewater is daily sampled for a variety of contaminants before it gets discharged back into the river which I have seen the Monthly charts showing that 99.98% of the time nothing gets above the minimum safe level.

Have no idea what goes on in the Portland area but the Rivers giant flow greatly diluted the contamination.

Every year in June The Columbia river for about 2-3 weeks empties more water into the ocean than any other river in the world.