Why Are Republicans So Relentlessly Cruel to the Poor?

[SmokeALib]

Because most poor people are lazy, unmotivated, and braindead.
Oh, wait - I just described liberals. Oh, well.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Since he's a leftist, and completely unfamiliar with the idea that words have actual set meanings.

And if you knew what those meanings were, you would've stated them, instead of trying to make this about me. But that's not what trolls do. And you are a troll.

See my post immediately prior to the one you responded to here, shitforbrains. That lack of long-term memory thing is a real bitch, huh?

According to the US government on what was found in the desert in Iraq...

"All had been manufactured before 1991, participants said. Filthy, rusty or corroded, a large fraction of them could not be readily identified as chemical weapons at all. Some were empty, though many of them still contained potent mustard agent or residual sarin. Most could not have been used as designed, and when they ruptured dispersed the chemical agents over a limited area, according to those who collected the majority of them."
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Weapons of MASS Destruction do not disperse over a limited area, they disperse over a MASS area, dumbass!

And here we go again with your little riff on defining words according to the personal perceptions in your own head.

Chemical weapons, by definition, weapons of mass destruction. Being unable to be used as designed for whatever reason makes it a defective WMD, not some other type of weapon entirely, you illiterate buffoon.

 

[Cecilie1200]

BTW, dimwit:

weapons of mass destruction
plural noun
1.
nuclear, chemical, or biological weapons that can cause indiscriminate death or injury on a large scale

the definition of weapons of mass destruction

weapons of mass destruction

weapon of mass destruction
n. pl. weapons of mass destruction
A weapon that can cause widespread destruction or kill large numbers of people, especially a nuclear, chemical, orbiological weapon.

weapons of mass destruction

• 
  
  
  • Definition of weapons of mass destruction

1. 
   
   
   • : weapons that can destroy entire cities, regions, etc.

Definition of WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION

As usual, the English language has declared you a moron.

And none of that apply's to what was found in the desert.

Again, being defective does not magically transform a chemical weapon into some other type of weapon entirely. It just makes it a dud.

The similarities to your own status as a human being are inescapable.

 

[Billo_Really]

I explained to you that since nearly all the Palestinians live under their own governments, PA or Hamas, there is no occupation. The division of the land into areas A, B and C, with PA civil and security jurisdiction in area A, PA civil and joint PA Israel security jurisdiction in B and Israeli civil and security jurisdiction in area C, in the West Bank and Gaza was agreed on in negotiations between Israel and the PLO and was endorsed by the UN, US and EU in the 1990's. Negotiations stalled because agreement could not be reached on various issues, so while there are grievances and disputes, there is no basis in fact or logic for calling the current situation an occupation. It is a word you use for its emotional impact not because the is a legitimate basis for it.

As I explained to you, if there was no occupation, then why can't Palestinian's leave the area without Israeli permission?

10 Things Palestinians Can’t Do Because Of The Israeli Occupation

8. Palestinians can’t travel in, out and through occupied territories without restriction.
Israel has implemented strict travel restrictions in and outside the occupied Palestinian territories for decades, making it difficult for Palestinians to leave, return and travel through the areas.
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People who do not live under occupation, get passports from their own government, not someone else's.

If there is no occupation, then why can't Palestinian's fish in their own territorial waters?

Israel's control of the airspace and the territorial waters of the Gaza Strip

Control of territorial waters
While there is no fence along Gaza's coastline, residents do not have open access to the sea. Palestinians wanting to go to sea need to request a permit from Israel, and those who obtain a permit are restricted in the distance they can go from shore. Israeli patrol boats have at times fired at boats that exceeded the distance allowed.
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If there is no occupation, why are these areas still called, "the Occupied Territories"?

Reality check: Almost fifty years of occupation
Israel’s occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip will mark its fiftieth anniversary. A third, even fourth, generation of Palestinians and Israelis have been born into this reality, and it is the only one they know.
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There is only one way to deal with an occupation and that is to end it. Agreements don't end it. Deals don't end it. Only a full withdrawal, dismantling of those immoral checkpoints and removal those psychotic, lunatic Israeli insurgents (living in the West Bank and East Jerusalem), will end it.

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[Billo_Really]

Again, being defective does not magically transform a chemical weapon into some other type of weapon entirely. It just makes it a dud.

The similarities to your own status as a human being are inescapable.

And "dud's" don't create mass destruction.

 

[Billo_Really]

And here we go again with your little riff on defining words according to the personal perceptions in your own head.

Chemical weapons, by definition, weapons of mass destruction. Being unable to be used as designed for whatever reason makes it a defective WMD, not some other type of weapon entirely, you illiterate buffoon.

This was your definition in your little **** brain...

chemical, or biological weapons that can cause indiscriminate death or injury on a large scale
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What was found in the desert, could not do that.

This is another reason republicans are so cruel to the poor. You fuckers are just stupid people!

 

[Billo_Really]

You forget Bill Clinton: Sudan, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan. So now it's 50/50.

Sudan and Yugoslavia are not in the ME and Clinton had limited action in Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

[Billo_Really]

No, if they have water restrictions and some Palestinians decide they are going to violate those restrictions, that is a provoked attack.

So fishing is a capital offense?

You are one sick puppy!

 

[Papageorgio]

You forget Bill Clinton: Sudan, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan. So now it's 50/50.

Sudan and Yugoslavia are not in the ME and Clinton had limited action in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Sudan and Yugoslavia have very large numbers of poor Muslims, and Clinton bombed Afghanistan and Iraq, doesn't matter if it was limited or not, high bombed poor innocent civilian Muslims, that is what we are talking about.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

No, if they have water restrictions and some Palestinians decide they are going to violate those restrictions, that is a provoked attack.

So fishing is a capital offense?

You are one sick puppy!

Capital offense? Nobody was seriously hurt. Didn't you even click the link I posted?

We have laws in this country that you can't rob a bank. If you decide to rob a bank anyway, and the police gun you down, does that mean that robbing a bank is a capital offense?

 

[toomuchtime_]

I explained to you that since nearly all the Palestinians live under their own governments, PA or Hamas, there is no occupation. The division of the land into areas A, B and C, with PA civil and security jurisdiction in area A, PA civil and joint PA Israel security jurisdiction in B and Israeli civil and security jurisdiction in area C, in the West Bank and Gaza was agreed on in negotiations between Israel and the PLO and was endorsed by the UN, US and EU in the 1990's. Negotiations stalled because agreement could not be reached on various issues, so while there are grievances and disputes, there is no basis in fact or logic for calling the current situation an occupation. It is a word you use for its emotional impact not because the is a legitimate basis for it.

As I explained to you, if there was no occupation, then why can't Palestinian's leave the area without Israeli permission?

10 Things Palestinians Can’t Do Because Of The Israeli Occupation

8. Palestinians can’t travel in, out and through occupied territories without restriction.
Israel has implemented strict travel restrictions in and outside the occupied Palestinian territories for decades, making it difficult for Palestinians to leave, return and travel through the areas.
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People who do not live under occupation, get passports from their own government, not someone else's.

If there is no occupation, then why can't Palestinian's fish in their own territorial waters?

Israel's control of the airspace and the territorial waters of the Gaza Strip

Control of territorial waters
While there is no fence along Gaza's coastline, residents do not have open access to the sea. Palestinians wanting to go to sea need to request a permit from Israel, and those who obtain a permit are restricted in the distance they can go from shore. Israeli patrol boats have at times fired at boats that exceeded the distance allowed.
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If there is no occupation, why are these areas still called, "the Occupied Territories"?

Reality check: Almost fifty years of occupation
Israel’s occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip will mark its fiftieth anniversary. A third, even fourth, generation of Palestinians and Israelis have been born into this reality, and it is the only one they know.
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There is only one way to deal with an occupation and that is to end it. Agreements don't end it. Deals don't end it. Only a full withdrawal, dismantling of those immoral checkpoints and removal those psychotic, lunatic Israeli insurgents (living in the West Bank and East Jerusalem), will end it.

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Again, you demonstrate how vast and profound your ignorance of this region is. By agreement between Israel and the PLO, those Arabs in the disputed territories who are not citizens of Israel are citizens of the Palestinian Authority and the Palestinian Authority does issue its own passports to its citizens and these passports are recognized by Israel and by most countries. All the Palestinians who want to travel and can afford to, do travel all over the world on these passports. There are no extraordinary restrictions on these travels. In addition, about 100,000 Palestinians travel daily to jobs in Israel with no special restrictions and and tens of thousands of Palestinians travel daily to their jobs in Israel's communities in the West Bank with no special restrictions. There are security checkpoints in area C that slow down travel between some parts of areas A and B if there are frequent terrorist attacks in that region, but these vary depending on the security situation. So your claim that the Palestinians must get their passports from Israel and that they are not free to travel are entirely false.

There is no basis in fact or logic for claiming all of the West Bank or Gaza belongs to the Palestinians. It never has belonged to them and there is no basis for claiming now that it does. When people talk about "occupied Palestinian territories" or "their territorial waters" they are only saying they think it should belong to them, but since it doesn't, there is no reasonable basis for talking about an occupation. It is a propaganda statement that asserts what the person wants as if it is an accomplished fact. In fact, in 2000 and again in 2008 Israel offered the Palestinians nearly all, 95%, of the land in Gaza and the West Bank. In 2000, the Palestinians responded with the second intifada and in 2008, Abbas simply refused to respond to the offer.

There never was a basis for claiming there was an Israeli occupation in Gaza or the West Bank in the legal sense of the word. According to the Geneva Conventions, a occupation refers to territories of one signatory that is under the control of another country. When the UN ended the Mandate, those parts of the Mandate that weren't part of Israel, legally, were just unincorporated remnants of the former Mandate. So when Jordan captured the West Bank and Egypt captured Gaza in 1948, there was no legal occupation because the land had not belonged to any other signatory to the Conventions. When Jordan annexed the West Bank in 1950, only two countries in the world, UK and Pakistan, recognized their right to do it because there was strong sentiment that it should belong to the Palestinians, but no one claimed it already did. Similarly, when Israel captured the West Bank and Gaza in 1967, there was no legal basis for calling it an occupation since the captured land had not legally belonged to any signatory nation to the Conventions. What all of this means is that with respect to Israel and the Palestinians, occupation is just a propaganda term that has no basis in fact of logic or law.

Despite all the attitude you display you clearly have not had enough interest in the subject to have learned any of the facts.

 

[Billo_Really]

Again, you demonstrate how vast and profound your ignorance of this region is.

You can take that condescending attitude and shove it up your ass.

By agreement between Israel and the PLO, those Arabs in the disputed territories...

They're not disputed territories, they're occupied.

who are not citizens of Israel are citizens of the Palestinian Authority and the Palestinian Authority does issue its own passports to its citizens and these passports are recognized by Israel and by most countries. All the Palestinians who want to travel and can afford to, do travel all over the world on these passports.

Prove it. Lets see some evidence of that. All you've been doing so far, is running your mouth.

There are no extraordinary restrictions on these travels. In addition, about 100,000 Palestinians travel daily to jobs in Israel with no special restrictions and and tens of thousands of Palestinians travel daily to their jobs in Israel's communities in the West Bank with no special restrictions. There are security checkpoints in area C that slow down travel between some parts of areas A and B if there are frequent terrorist attacks in that region, but these vary depending on the security situation. So your claim that the Palestinians must get their passports from Israel and that they are not free to travel are entirely false.

I posted the links that prove you're full of shit.

There is no basis in fact or logic for claiming all of the West Bank or Gaza belongs to the Palestinians. It never has belonged to them and there is no basis for claiming now that it does. When people talk about "occupied Palestinian territories" or "their territorial waters" they are only saying they think it should belong to them, but since it doesn't, there is no reasonable basis for talking about an occupation. It is a propaganda statement that asserts what the person wants as if it is an accomplished fact.

There are over 100 UN resolutions that say you are full of shit.

In fact, in 2000 and again in 2008 Israel offered the Palestinians nearly all, 95%, of the land in Gaza and the West Bank.

You can't offer what you don't have. And that land is not Israel's to give.

In 2000, the Palestinians responded with the second intifada and in 2008, Abbas simply refused to respond to the offer.

They didn't start it because they were free.

There never was a basis for claiming there was an Israeli occupation in Gaza or the West Bank in the legal sense of the word. According to the Geneva Conventions, a occupation refers to territories of one signatory that is under the control of another country.

Wrong. An occupation exists when a territory is under the control of a foreign force that has no clear title to it.

Article 42 of the 1907 Hague Regulations (HR) states that a " territory is considered occupied when it is actually placed under the authority of the hostile army.
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So it doesn't matter who's territory it is, the only thing that matters is that it is not Israel's.

When the UN ended the Mandate, those parts of the Mandate that weren't part of Israel, legally, were just unincorporated remnants of the former Mandate. So when Jordan captured the West Bank and Egypt captured Gaza in 1948, there was no legal occupation because the land had not belonged to any other signatory to the Conventions. When Jordan annexed the West Bank in 1950, only two countries in the world, UK and Pakistan, recognized their right to do it because there was strong sentiment that it should belong to the Palestinians, but no one claimed it already did. Similarly, when Israel captured the West Bank and Gaza in 1967, there was no legal basis for calling it an occupation since the captured land had not legally belonged to any signatory nation to the Conventions. What all of this means is that with respect to Israel and the Palestinians, occupation is just a propaganda term that has no basis in fact of logic or law.

Bullshit. The Palestinian's are the indigenous population to that area and they have rights.

Despite all the attitude you display you clearly have not had enough interest in the subject to have learned any of the facts.

And you just like to hear yourself talk.

 

[Billo_Really]

Capital offense? Nobody was seriously hurt. Didn't you even click the link I posted?

This was from your link.

In April, the Navy allegedly sunk a Palestinian fishing boat of the coast of the Gaza strip. According to Palestinian reports, the ship was shot several times by an IDF ship, caught fire and sunk​

The IDF sank a Palestinian fishing boat off the Gazan coast and you don't see anything wrong with that? You don't see anything wrong with shooting at people FISHING!

Who the fuck shoots at someone fishing? You are sick! You are really sick, if you don't see a problem there.

We have laws in this country that you can't rob a bank. If you decide to rob a bank anyway, and the police gun you down, does that mean that robbing a bank is a capital offense?

Okay skippy, lets use your metaphor...

If a bank gets robbed, you don't cut a deal with the bank robbers to bring back part of the loot. Conversely, if someone knocks on your door and tells you God said they could have your home and you and your whole family have to leave right away, you don't negotiate with that prick that would allow him to keep part of your home.

But that's exactly what did happen to the Palestinian's. Jewish terrorist groups drove the indigenous Palestinian residents from their land and claimed it because God told them to.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Okay skippy, lets use your metaphor...

If a bank gets robbed, you don't cut a deal with the bank robbers to bring back part of the loot. Conversely, if someone knocks on your door and tells you God said they could have your home and you and your whole family have to leave right away, you don't negotiate with that prick that would allow him to keep part of your home.

But that's exactly what did happen to the Palestinian's. Jewish terrorist groups drove the indigenous Palestinian residents from their land and claimed it because God told them to.

So what if the American Indians decided they wanted this country back and started to terrorize people? If they blew up and killed everybody on your mothers street, you'd be okay with that since we took their land many, many years ago?

As for that stupid fishing thing, I don't know what situation you're talking about since all you posted was a video with no information. Apparently the Palestinians have went in that zone more than once. Seems to me like they were looking for a confrontation.

 

[froggy]

Why Are Republicans So Relentlessly Cruel to the Poor?

Interesting article and much of it chimes with what we see in the UK.

It has to be coated with a thin veneer of religion to make it acceptable but in essence right wing politics is based on a selfish me me me doctrine. DISCUSS

The article start off on a false note social security and Medicare are something we pay for weekly.

 

[Billo_Really]

So what if the American Indians decided they wanted this country back and started to terrorize people? If they blew up and killed everybody on your mothers street, you'd be okay with that since we took their land many, many years ago?

If you are going to go down that road, when do the Palestinian's get their casinos?

As for that stupid fishing thing, I don't know what situation you're talking about since all you posted was a video with no information. Apparently the Palestinians have went in that zone more than once. Seems to me like they were looking for a confrontation.

"As for the fishing thing..."

Man, your inhumanity is there for all to see. What you see in the video is the IDF shooting at people FISHING! THEY ARE FUCKING FISHING, ASSHOLE! Who the fuck shoots at people FISHING! And they probably went into that zone to FISH!

This is a big reason why you fuckers are so cruel to the poor, you are not only completely detached from reality, you are completely void of anything human.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Again, you demonstrate how vast and profound your ignorance of this region is.

You can take that condescending attitude and shove it up your ass.

By agreement between Israel and the PLO, those Arabs in the disputed territories...

They're not disputed territories, they're occupied.

who are not citizens of Israel are citizens of the Palestinian Authority and the Palestinian Authority does issue its own passports to its citizens and these passports are recognized by Israel and by most countries. All the Palestinians who want to travel and can afford to, do travel all over the world on these passports.

Prove it. Lets see some evidence of that. All you've been doing so far, is running your mouth.

There are no extraordinary restrictions on these travels. In addition, about 100,000 Palestinians travel daily to jobs in Israel with no special restrictions and and tens of thousands of Palestinians travel daily to their jobs in Israel's communities in the West Bank with no special restrictions. There are security checkpoints in area C that slow down travel between some parts of areas A and B if there are frequent terrorist attacks in that region, but these vary depending on the security situation. So your claim that the Palestinians must get their passports from Israel and that they are not free to travel are entirely false.

I posted the links that prove you're full of shit.

There is no basis in fact or logic for claiming all of the West Bank or Gaza belongs to the Palestinians. It never has belonged to them and there is no basis for claiming now that it does. When people talk about "occupied Palestinian territories" or "their territorial waters" they are only saying they think it should belong to them, but since it doesn't, there is no reasonable basis for talking about an occupation. It is a propaganda statement that asserts what the person wants as if it is an accomplished fact.

There are over 100 UN resolutions that say you are full of shit.

In fact, in 2000 and again in 2008 Israel offered the Palestinians nearly all, 95%, of the land in Gaza and the West Bank.

You can't offer what you don't have. And that land is not Israel's to give.

In 2000, the Palestinians responded with the second intifada and in 2008, Abbas simply refused to respond to the offer.

They didn't start it because they were free.

There never was a basis for claiming there was an Israeli occupation in Gaza or the West Bank in the legal sense of the word. According to the Geneva Conventions, a occupation refers to territories of one signatory that is under the control of another country.

Wrong. An occupation exists when a territory is under the control of a foreign force that has no clear title to it.

Article 42 of the 1907 Hague Regulations (HR) states that a " territory is considered occupied when it is actually placed under the authority of the hostile army.
​

So it doesn't matter who's territory it is, the only thing that matters is that it is not Israel's.

When the UN ended the Mandate, those parts of the Mandate that weren't part of Israel, legally, were just unincorporated remnants of the former Mandate. So when Jordan captured the West Bank and Egypt captured Gaza in 1948, there was no legal occupation because the land had not belonged to any other signatory to the Conventions. When Jordan annexed the West Bank in 1950, only two countries in the world, UK and Pakistan, recognized their right to do it because there was strong sentiment that it should belong to the Palestinians, but no one claimed it already did. Similarly, when Israel captured the West Bank and Gaza in 1967, there was no legal basis for calling it an occupation since the captured land had not legally belonged to any signatory nation to the Conventions. What all of this means is that with respect to Israel and the Palestinians, occupation is just a propaganda term that has no basis in fact of logic or law.

Bullshit. The Palestinian's are the indigenous population to that area and they have rights.

Despite all the attitude you display you clearly have not had enough interest in the subject to have learned any of the facts.

And you just like to hear yourself talk.

In this post you demonstrate that not only is your ignorance of the situation vast and profound, but also that you have no personal integrity. For example, in support of your claim the Palestinians suffer heavy travel restrictions, you cite an article that talks about temporary security regulations at times of violence and pretend this applies to all travel at all times by Palestinians throughout the West Bank.

Again, your ignorance is on display when you cite "territory is considered occupied when it is actually placed under the authority of the hostile army." No part of Gaza or the West Bank is under the authority of the Israeli army. All of Gaza and 40% of the West Bank is under the authority of the Palestinian Authority and eh 60% of the West Bank, area C, that is under the jurisdiction of Israel by agreement between Israel and the Palestinian Authority, is under the authority of the Civil administration. The army, border police and other security agencies are called in by the Civil administration only to deal with security situations.

Was it ignorance or a lack of personal integrity that led you to make these false claims?

You asked me to prove the Palestinian Authority issues its own passports.

he Palestinian Authority Passport/Travel Document Arabic: جواز سفر‎‎ (Jawaz Safar) is a passport/travel document issued since April 1995 by the Palestinian Authority to Palestinian residents of the Palestinian territories for the purpose of international travel.

The Palestinian Authority passport is available to anyone on production of a birth certificate showing that they were born in Palestine. What constitutes "Palestine" for this purpose is not clear. In practice, only residents of areas under the Palestinian Authority jurisdiction can apply. Whether Palestinians born outside Palestine could apply for the passport is also not clear.[1]

Palestinian Authority passport - Wikipedia

How many Palestinians travel freely to jobs in Israel every day?

The number of Palestinians from the West Bank working in Israel both legally and illegally doubled in the past four years to about 92,000 in 2014, in many cases displacing overseas guest workers, the Bank of Israel said yesterday.

Number of Palestinians working in Israel doubled over four years, central bank says

How many travel freely to work in Israeli West Bank communities every day?

Around 36,000 Palestinians work in settlements in the occupied West Bank, many in construction, earning up to three times as much as the average Palestinian wage.

For many Palestinians, Israel settlement work the only option

No one who had any real interest in what the facts are would have asked me to prove any of this. Holding strong opinions that are not based on facts, as you do, is a definition of bigotry, and you have distinguished yourself in post after post as an ignorant, loud mouthed, unprincipled bigot.

 

[Cecilie1200]

No, if they have water restrictions and some Palestinians decide they are going to violate those restrictions, that is a provoked attack.

So fishing is a capital offense?

You are one sick puppy!

Capital offense? Nobody was seriously hurt. Didn't you even click the link I posted?

We have laws in this country that you can't rob a bank. If you decide to rob a bank anyway, and the police gun you down, does that mean that robbing a bank is a capital offense?

Could look at as being stupid, violent, and antisocial are capital offenses, and I'm personally okay with that.

 

[Billo_Really]

In this post you demonstrate that not only is your ignorance of the situation vast and profound, but also that you have no personal integrity.

Dude, you start all your posts this way. Get some new material.

For example, in support of your claim the Palestinians suffer heavy travel restrictions, you cite an article that talks about temporary security regulations at times of violence and pretend this applies to all travel at all times by Palestinians throughout the West Bank.

In the West Bank, there are 27 permanently manned checkpoints that restrict movement 100% of the time.

The IDF currently operates 27 permanent staffed checkpoints in the West Bank. At these checkpoints, which constitute the most severe restriction on movement of Palestinians, Israel' security forces check every person who crosses, resulting in frequent lengthy delays.​

In addition to that, there are hundreds of roadblocks that restrict movement as well.

The IDF has also placed hundreds of physical obstacles in the West Bank in the form of concrete blocks, piles or dirt, or trenches, which prevent access to and from towns and villages.​

And then there are the forbidden roads.

Palestinian travel is restricted or entirely prohibited on 41 roads and sections of roads throughout the West Bank, including many of the main traffic arteries, covering a total of over 700 kilometers of roadway. Israelis can travel freely on these roads.​

Gaza, is a prison. No one can leave by air. No one can leave by sea. And only few residents can leave through Erez crossing, Kerem Shalom crossing or the Rafah crossing.

Israel only grants Gaza residents permission to cross in certain circumstances, usually for humanitarian reasons such as medical treatment.​

These checkpoints in the West Bank are illegal. The Israeli presence in the West Bank is illegal. And restricting Palestinian movement on their OWN FUCKING PROPERTY, is illegal.

So don't give me this shit about they have freedom of movement, you fuckin' asshole!

Again, your ignorance is on display when you cite "territory is considered occupied when it is actually placed under the authority of the hostile army." No part of Gaza or the West Bank is under the authority of the Israeli army. All of Gaza and 40% of the West Bank is under the authority of the Palestinian Authority and eh 60% of the West Bank, area C, that is under the jurisdiction of Israel by agreement between Israel and the Palestinian Authority, is under the authority of the Civil administration. The army, border police and other security agencies are called in by the Civil administration only to deal with security situations.

You don't need to have a physical presence in the area to constitute an occupation, if you maintain "effective control" of that area and Israel does just that.

Was it ignorance or a lack of personal integrity that led you to make these false claims?

Actually, it was your arrogant narcissism that compelled you ask such a bullshit question.

You asked me to prove the Palestinian Authority issues its own passports.

No, I didn't ask you to do that. I asked you to provide evidence contrary to mine.

No one who had any real interest in what the facts are would have asked me to prove any of this.

And neither did I.

Holding strong opinions that are not based on facts, as you do, is a definition of bigotry, and you have distinguished yourself in post after post as an ignorant, loud mouthed, unprincipled bigot.

And your perception, is not necessarily the truth.

Now, why are you so cruel to the poor?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If you are going to go down that road, when do the Palestinian's get their casinos?

They don't want casinos. They want every Jew dead. Their leaders have repeatedly said that is the only solution.

But I see you avoided the question. Good choice for you as a liberal.

"As for the fishing thing..."

Man, your inhumanity is there for all to see. What you see in the video is the IDF shooting at people FISHING! THEY ARE FUCKING FISHING, ASSHOLE! Who the fuck shoots at people FISHING! And they probably went into that zone to FISH!

This is a big reason why you fuckers are so cruel to the poor, you are not only completely detached from reality, you are completely void of anything human.

Apparently they want those waters clear for some reason--probably because the Palestinians launch terrorist attacks from there. If they were not fishing and just sun bathing, Israel military would have reacted the same way. Those Palestinians can't fish anywhere else???? Obviously they wanted to start a problem as they usually do.