Who will ever trust America again?

[Billy_Kinetta]

No amount of apology will make up for the damage Trump has done to our global reputation.

As we withdraw from our allies, we abdicate our title of "Leader of the Free World". Maybe it's Germany now.

If Trump is re-elected, it'll take quite a bit longer for the world to trust us, even after he's gone. If he isn't, they'll see we're not as he portrays us. In that case, I think things could get back to normal fairly soon.

Horseshit, trust and respect go hand in hand, until Trump started playing hardball, we were not respected, now we are. When you back up what you say, people trust you. Remember Obozo and his red line in the sand with Syria? no back up, no trust. Thats the way the world works.

America is laughed at internationally under Trump, not respected.

LMAO Like we were respected under Mr. apology Barry??

Most American's couldn't care less what our supposed allies think. I know I sure don't.

The Great Obama and Hillary were able to rebuild relations with our allies

After Trump, that will be difficult to do

The Great Obama and Hitlery?? LMAO Boy are you dreaming.

Neither of them did much in the way of relations unless you call them kissing asses and apologizing all over the world relations.

Our supposed allies only want to see us when they need money or they need us to defend their sorry asses. In fact we should pull our troops out of Germany and many other countries. Let them defend themselves the next time some one goose steps across their lands.

The Great Obama was able to patch up international relations and get agreements on global warming, trade, Iran denuclearization, Russian Sanctions


Trump destroyed it all
That is why nobody trusts us anymore....we don’t keep our word

We are under no obligation to keep agreements made solely between Obama and hostile governments.

 

[The Original Tree]

Republicans complained about Obama’s “Apology Tour”. No amount of apology will make up for the damage Trump has done to our global reputation.

Who would ever trust America again?

The United States has become thoroughly unreliable on the world stage — and a new president with new promises won't help

theweek.com

But fixing America's foreign policy will require much more than simply erasing bad memories of Donald Trump and reverting to the technocratic competence of the Obama administration. In fact, righting our course may demand greater skill and influence than it's reasonable to assume Biden or any other president could possess.

That's because Trump's distinctive ineptitude and incoherence on the world stage is only a symptom of a much bigger and more systemic problem.

America's inconsistency

No one trusts you, or Biden, or any of the Globalist Socialist Nazis that want to tear this great country down.

 

[citygator]

The article dismisses partisanship being the issue and identifies not having a clear strategy as being the issue. I'd submit that with the republican party's goal of dysfunction in the world, partisanship is the issue. Warmongering irrationality of a party hell bent on being the American version of the a middle eastern religious state IS the problem. "American First" means everyone, including America loses. Nov 3rd, elect an adult.

In this Address, Kennedy warned "Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty."
This is why JFK would be a Republican today. On Nov. 3rd don't vote for an adult, vote for a MAN WITH BACKBONE, re-elect President of the United States of America Donald J. Trump.

You do realize that:
1. JFK would be solidly Democrat
2. Trump is the biggest coward we’ve ever had as leader of this country. Tweet rage doesn’t offset folding to our enemies and running from our allies.

Serious question: You were kidding right?

JFK would be a Republican today.
A.) He was Roman Catholic and would be opposed to abortion.
B.) He was a Cold Warrior and father of the "Neo-Con" school of foreign policy. ("Pay any price bear any burden" had Diem assassinated)
C.) Gave biggest tax cut in history in 1962.
D.) Created Peace Corps to win hearts and minds with U.S. wealth.
E.) Stood against communism around the world, especially our biggest threat at the time, Soviet Union. He would approve of Trump taking a strong stance against communist China and terrorist Iran.
I am Roman Catholic and grew up with a crucifix, picture of Jesus, and picture of President Kennedy on the wall in my room. He was my favorite President and read everything I could get on his life and presidency. Finally, the asshole that shot him had the same political beliefs as Bernie, AOC, and the majority of Democratic Party 2020.

Wow. I feel like you have to be a liberal plant. This is too easy.

A. Catholics are equally divided among the two political parties. Educated Catholics are overwhelmingly Democrat.
B. Republicans are now isolationists and appeasers or did you not get that Trump memo?
C. Which still had marginal tax rates way above today’s levels for the wealthy and companies so JFK would want it returned to his levels.
D. A social group. Yea. Like that’s right up a republicans ally.
E. Trump is a Russian appeaser. See the reluctance to sanctionor criticize.

 

[kaz]

Republicans complained about Obama’s “Apology Tour”. No amount of apology will make up for the damage Trump has done to our global reputation.

Who would ever trust America again?

The United States has become thoroughly unreliable on the world stage — and a new president with new promises won't help

theweek.com

But fixing America's foreign policy will require much more than simply erasing bad memories of Donald Trump and reverting to the technocratic competence of the Obama administration. In fact, righting our course may demand greater skill and influence than it's reasonable to assume Biden or any other president could possess.

That's because Trump's distinctive ineptitude and incoherence on the world stage is only a symptom of a much bigger and more systemic problem.

America's inconsistency

It will take decades of stable governance before anyone will trust us.

We don't need trust from them. Only fools like you think that way.

They need us a hell of a lot more than we will ever need them.

Actually, you do need people to trust you if you want cooperation

Trumpites do not understand that basic principle

The money we spread out buys and has always bought more "cooperation" than sucking up. Obama sucked up to the max and got shit for it. The world played him and laughed at him.

What you're not grasping is we want to stop buying the world. When you're saying we're out as world leader, we WANT that. The problem is it isn't true, you're full of shit like you always are

 

[kaz]

We aren't careening wildly from one president to another because of our partisanship. Our drastic partisan shifts on foreign policy are a function of our underlying cluelessness about what we want to do in the world, a fantastical overestimation of our capabilities, and a resolute inability to think seriously about trade-offs.

Until all of this begins to change, the U.S. will be incapable of exercising anything approaching global leadership — and increasingly likely to stumble into military conflict with a competing major power uncertain about our priorities and capacities. That is the unhappy and dangerous situation Biden will inherit if he wins the presidency in November.

I have to agree with this but also point out it does not go far enough in how this happened...
I am voting for Biden in Nov. because he is a democrat but not a liberal, I stay with the democratic party in the hopes that I can help destroy the white leftist wing of the party as they are the ones responsible for the mess we are in...if trump wins again he needs to do to white liberals what they have done to our country...
White liberals have nothing to offer, it is their way or no way, if you do not go along you will be assigned to one or more of the "isms", cities will be brought down and lawlessness will be rampant because that is what passes for ideas and policy on the far left.

Speaking as a Blue Dog, I understand where you are coming from. I agree that Biden is no liberal.

If you think Biden is no liberal, then you're no "blue dog"

 

[Claudette]

Republicans complained about Obama’s “Apology Tour”. No amount of apology will make up for the damage Trump has done to our global reputation.

Who would ever trust America again?

The United States has become thoroughly unreliable on the world stage — and a new president with new promises won't help

theweek.com

But fixing America's foreign policy will require much more than simply erasing bad memories of Donald Trump and reverting to the technocratic competence of the Obama administration. In fact, righting our course may demand greater skill and influence than it's reasonable to assume Biden or any other president could possess.

That's because Trump's distinctive ineptitude and incoherence on the world stage is only a symptom of a much bigger and more systemic problem.

America's inconsistency

It will take decades of stable governance before anyone will trust us.

We don't need trust from them. Only fools like you think that way.

They need us a hell of a lot more than we will ever need them.

Actually, you do need people to trust you if you want cooperation

Trumpites do not understand that basic principle

The money we spread out buys and has always bought more "cooperation" than sucking up. Obama sucked up to the max and got shit for it. The world played him and laughed at him.

What you're not grasping is we want to stop buying the world. When you're saying we're out as world leader, we WANT that. The problem is it isn't true, you're full of shit like you always are

I agree. Let someone else be the world leader and pay for that "priviledge."

 

[kaz]

Why do we need validation from other countries? This thread is way too long considering the lack of substance and thought

Where have you been for the last hundred years?

The US is a global power both economically and politically. Prior to Trump, we were recognized as Leader of the Free World.

Other countries are moving on

Where are they going?

 

[kaz]

It will take decades of stable governance before anyone will trust us.

By then, it may be too late

The rest of the world will have moved on without us

LMAO The rest of the world depends on us to much to move on.

Look at all that foreign aid we send out every year. Without us there would be no foreign aid.

You really are a fool.

They are finding that we are undependable

Not a good trait for an ally

And they're unreliable. Yet you don't care

 

[Frankeneinstein]

If you think Biden is no liberal, then you're no "blue dog"

He's not a liberal bro...he's stuck in the darkness of a PC crowd that will crush his candidacy if he even looks like he is thinking of straying from the party line

 

[kaz]

If you think Biden is no liberal, then you're no "blue dog"

He's not a liberal bro...he's stuck in the darkness of a PC crowd that will crush his candidacy if he even looks like he is thinking of straying from the party line

He's supporting defunding the police, the green new deal and sucking up to Bernie and Pocahontas supporters. Even AOC is starting to like him. What he supported decades ago isn't relevant today. The guy is red as a beet

 

[Dick Foster]

Republicans complained about Obama’s “Apology Tour”. No amount of apology will make up for the damage Trump has done to our global reputation.

Who would ever trust America again?

The United States has become thoroughly unreliable on the world stage — and a new president with new promises won't help

theweek.com

But fixing America's foreign policy will require much more than simply erasing bad memories of Donald Trump and reverting to the technocratic competence of the Obama administration. In fact, righting our course may demand greater skill and influence than it's reasonable to assume Biden or any other president could possess.

That's because Trump's distinctive ineptitude and incoherence on the world stage is only a symptom of a much bigger and more systemic problem.

America's inconsistency

They only thing Trump has done is to ween the leeches off of our tit, dumbass. Maybe you should wake the fuck up and realize that you simply can't buy loyalty, shitforbrains.

 

[Jets]

We aren't careening wildly from one president to another because of our partisanship. Our drastic partisan shifts on foreign policy are a function of our underlying cluelessness about what we want to do in the world, a fantastical overestimation of our capabilities, and a resolute inability to think seriously about trade-offs.

Until all of this begins to change, the U.S. will be incapable of exercising anything approaching global leadership — and increasingly likely to stumble into military conflict with a competing major power uncertain about our priorities and capacities. That is the unhappy and dangerous situation Biden will inherit if he wins the presidency in November.

I have to agree with this but also point out it does not go far enough in how this happened...
I am voting for Biden in Nov. because he is a democrat but not a liberal, I stay with the democratic party in the hopes that I can help destroy the white leftist wing of the party as they are the ones responsible for the mess we are in...if trump wins again he needs to do to white liberals what they have done to our country...
White liberals have nothing to offer, it is their way or no way, if you do not go along you will be assigned to one or more of the "isms", cities will be brought down and lawlessness will be rampant because that is what passes for ideas and policy on the far left.

Speaking as a Blue Dog, I understand where you are coming from. I agree that Biden is no liberal.

If you think Biden is no liberal, then you're no "blue dog"

Joe Biden Has a Long History of Giving Republicans Exactly What They Want

 

[Frankeneinstein]

He's supporting defunding the police, the green new deal and sucking up to Bernie and Pocahontas supporters. Even AOC is starting to like him. What he supported decades ago isn't relevant today. The guy is red as a beet

Yeah but that's not really him, that is the white liberal wing of the party and why it needs to be destroyed

 

[kaz]

Republicans complained about Obama’s “Apology Tour”. No amount of apology will make up for the damage Trump has done to our global reputation.

Who would ever trust America again?

The United States has become thoroughly unreliable on the world stage — and a new president with new promises won't help

theweek.com

But fixing America's foreign policy will require much more than simply erasing bad memories of Donald Trump and reverting to the technocratic competence of the Obama administration. In fact, righting our course may demand greater skill and influence than it's reasonable to assume Biden or any other president could possess.

That's because Trump's distinctive ineptitude and incoherence on the world stage is only a symptom of a much bigger and more systemic problem.

America's inconsistency

They only thing Trump has done is to ween the leeches off of our tit, dumbass. Maybe you should wake the fuck up and realize that you simply can't buy loyalty, shitforbrains.

I agree, but I'd change to your conclusion that the only loyalty we EVER got from the world was the loyalty we bought. And rightwinger is tripping, they are as eager to sell their loyalty today as they ever were. Their issue is that Trump has lowered what he's willing to pay for loyalty.

Note for example how Germany melted down about the idea of our troops leaving Germany.

Rightwinger doesn't have a clue

 

[kaz]

We aren't careening wildly from one president to another because of our partisanship. Our drastic partisan shifts on foreign policy are a function of our underlying cluelessness about what we want to do in the world, a fantastical overestimation of our capabilities, and a resolute inability to think seriously about trade-offs.

Until all of this begins to change, the U.S. will be incapable of exercising anything approaching global leadership — and increasingly likely to stumble into military conflict with a competing major power uncertain about our priorities and capacities. That is the unhappy and dangerous situation Biden will inherit if he wins the presidency in November.

I have to agree with this but also point out it does not go far enough in how this happened...
I am voting for Biden in Nov. because he is a democrat but not a liberal, I stay with the democratic party in the hopes that I can help destroy the white leftist wing of the party as they are the ones responsible for the mess we are in...if trump wins again he needs to do to white liberals what they have done to our country...
White liberals have nothing to offer, it is their way or no way, if you do not go along you will be assigned to one or more of the "isms", cities will be brought down and lawlessness will be rampant because that is what passes for ideas and policy on the far left.

Speaking as a Blue Dog, I understand where you are coming from. I agree that Biden is no liberal.

If you think Biden is no liberal, then you're no "blue dog"

Joe Biden Has a Long History of Giving Republicans Exactly What They Want

All you did is repeat what I already just addressed. You are talking about the past and I'm talking about today

 

[Jets]

Speaking as a Blue Dog, I understand where you are coming from. I agree that Biden is no liberal.

I have voted for republicans in the past [I just loved reagan] but they are not my cup of tea...I come from a long line of union democrats, we despise the white liberal...I don't know how old you are but what you are seeing in the streets now is what I saw in the streets of Saigon, phenom phen, cuba in the 50' and 60's and read about from early Russia in the early part of last century...this is how the communists let you know they now have control...they destroy the symbolism in your country, which in this case is also helping to erase the parties memory and responsibility for slavery.

I was a liberal Democrat in college and moved to the center during the Clinton years. Blue Dogs appealed to me, because they stayed with the party yet not marching in lockstep with the progressive wing.

 

[kaz]

He's supporting defunding the police, the green new deal and sucking up to Bernie and Pocahontas supporters. Even AOC is starting to like him. What he supported decades ago isn't relevant today. The guy is red as a beet

Yeah but that's not really him, that is the white liberal wing of the party and why it needs to be destroyed

Well, he's supporting it to the hilt right now. That is undeniable. Saying he used to be less extreme left is irrelevant to what he is now.

He's an empty space which is being filled by the hard left with propaganda. Joe's not even mostly there

 

[Jets]

We aren't careening wildly from one president to another because of our partisanship. Our drastic partisan shifts on foreign policy are a function of our underlying cluelessness about what we want to do in the world, a fantastical overestimation of our capabilities, and a resolute inability to think seriously about trade-offs.

Until all of this begins to change, the U.S. will be incapable of exercising anything approaching global leadership — and increasingly likely to stumble into military conflict with a competing major power uncertain about our priorities and capacities. That is the unhappy and dangerous situation Biden will inherit if he wins the presidency in November.

I have to agree with this but also point out it does not go far enough in how this happened...
I am voting for Biden in Nov. because he is a democrat but not a liberal, I stay with the democratic party in the hopes that I can help destroy the white leftist wing of the party as they are the ones responsible for the mess we are in...if trump wins again he needs to do to white liberals what they have done to our country...
White liberals have nothing to offer, it is their way or no way, if you do not go along you will be assigned to one or more of the "isms", cities will be brought down and lawlessness will be rampant because that is what passes for ideas and policy on the far left.

Speaking as a Blue Dog, I understand where you are coming from. I agree that Biden is no liberal.

If you think Biden is no liberal, then you're no "blue dog"

Joe Biden Has a Long History of Giving Republicans Exactly What They Want

All you did is repeat what I already just addressed. You are talking about the past and I'm talking about today

Still isn’t a liberal. Wheedling the progressive wing of the party for support doesn't make him one.

 

[Crepitus]

It will take decades of stable governance before anyone will trust us.

By then, it may be too late

The rest of the world will have moved on without us

Where are they going to go?

Forward.

 

[Crepitus]

Republicans complained about Obama’s “Apology Tour”. No amount of apology will make up for the damage Trump has done to our global reputation.

Who would ever trust America again?

The United States has become thoroughly unreliable on the world stage — and a new president with new promises won't help

theweek.com

But fixing America's foreign policy will require much more than simply erasing bad memories of Donald Trump and reverting to the technocratic competence of the Obama administration. In fact, righting our course may demand greater skill and influence than it's reasonable to assume Biden or any other president could possess.

That's because Trump's distinctive ineptitude and incoherence on the world stage is only a symptom of a much bigger and more systemic problem.

America's inconsistency

It will take decades of stable governance before anyone will trust us.

We don't need trust from them. Only fools like you think that way.

They need us a hell of a lot more than we will ever need them.

What a stupid attitude.

Oh, it's you.

Never mind.