Who & what is contributing to coral reef loss

[Dot Com]

Wanna comment on what I said? Did you read the abstract? Where do you suppose you find concentrations of some minor element of sunscreen that high? Or can't you think that thru? You think this is the "golden goblet" of truth about demise of coral reefs?

you said concentrations and I supplied this from my source,which Dante also ref'd:

the equivalent of a drop of water in a half-dozen Olympic-sized swimming pools — it documented three different ways that the ingredient oxybenzone breaks the coral down, robbing it of life-giving nutrients and turning it ghostly white.

Dottie... keep in mind that you're arguing about fucking SUNSCREEN!

We dump sewage, oil, plastic, into the ocean. We destroy fish populations, overhunt everything, tamper with reefs and other ecosystems. We cut down forests, burn fossil fuels, dump nuclear radiation...

But NO! It's fucking SUNSCREEN!!!

Bingo.. Applies to probably 5% or less of strategically significant coral reefs..

No room for "probablies" here. Link?

 

[TheOldSchool]

Wanna comment on what I said? Did you read the abstract? Where do you suppose you find concentrations of some minor element of sunscreen that high? Or can't you think that thru? You think this is the "golden goblet" of truth about demise of coral reefs?

you said concentrations and I supplied this from my source,which Dante also ref'd:

the equivalent of a drop of water in a half-dozen Olympic-sized swimming pools — it documented three different ways that the ingredient oxybenzone breaks the coral down, robbing it of life-giving nutrients and turning it ghostly white.

Dottie... keep in mind that you're arguing about fucking SUNSCREEN!

We dump sewage, oil, plastic, into the ocean. We destroy fish populations, overhunt everything, tamper with reefs and other ecosystems. We cut down forests, burn fossil fuels, dump nuclear radiation...

But NO! It's fucking SUNSCREEN!!!

Bingo.. Applies to probably 5% or less of strategically significant coral reefs..

"Strategically significant?" Well, reefs were pretty cool and all when they were around I suppose.

- Children 50 years from now

 

[westwall]

How we are all contributing to the destruction of coral reefs: Sunscreen

The study, released Tuesday, was conducted in the U.S. Virgin Islands and Hawaii several years after a chance encounter between a group of researchers on one of the Caribbean beaches, Trunk Bay, and a vendor waiting for the day’s invasion of tourists. Just wait to see what they’d leave behind, he told the scientists – “a long oil slick.” His comment sparked the idea for the research.

Not only did the study determine that a tiny amount of sunscreen is all it takes to begin damaging the delicate corals — the equivalent of a drop of water in a half-dozen Olympic-sized swimming pools — it documented three different ways that the ingredient oxybenzone breaks the coral down, robbing it of life-giving nutrients and turning it ghostly white.

Research for the new study was conducted only on the two islands. But across the world each year, up to 14,000 tons of sunscreen lotions are discharged into coral reef, and much of it “contains between 1 and 10 percent oxybenzone,” the authors said. They estimate that places at least 10 percent of reefs at risk of high exposure, judging from how reefs are located in popular tourism areas.

Discuss...

**************please familiarize yourself w/ the Environment sub-forum rules before posting mkay thanks

(IOW- NO TROLLING)

What? You mean it isn't global warming as we have all been told for so long? That's funny. Whenever a claim is made for global warming, very soon a real scientist comes along and finds out that it wasn't global warming at all and some other agent.

Thanks for posting this!

How is this relevant to the OP?

I think it's pretty obvious don't you?

 

[flacaltenn]

Amazing to me how much common sense has to be linked for the peanut gallery.

Be a Coral Hero

It’s estimated that 4-6 thousand metric tons of sunscreen wind up in the ocean each year in reef environments, and it’s especially concentrated in snorkel spots. If you use sunscreen, look for natural brands that don’t have parabens, cinnamate, benzophenone, and camphor derivatives. Better yet, throw on a light colored tee-shirt or rash guard to protect yourself from those UV rays instead.


Why is critical thinking so difficult for you?? MOST people get this. There's 2 of the assertions I've made. And doubt those folks are exceptionally brilliant...

 

[TheOldSchool]

Amazing to me how much common sense has to be linked for the peanut gallery.

Be a Coral Hero

It’s estimated that 4-6 thousand metric tons of sunscreen wind up in the ocean each year in reef environments, and it’s especially concentrated in snorkel spots. If you use sunscreen, look for natural brands that don’t have parabens, cinnamate, benzophenone, and camphor derivatives. Better yet, throw on a light colored tee-shirt or rash guard to protect yourself from those UV rays instead.


Why is critical thinking so difficult for you?? MOST people get this. There's 2 of the assertions I've made. And doubt those folks are exceptionally brilliant...

God damn white people! Needing all that sunscreen!

 

[flacaltenn]

Wanna comment on what I said? Did you read the abstract? Where do you suppose you find concentrations of some minor element of sunscreen that high? Or can't you think that thru? You think this is the "golden goblet" of truth about demise of coral reefs?

you said concentrations and I supplied this from my source,which Dante also ref'd:

the equivalent of a drop of water in a half-dozen Olympic-sized swimming pools — it documented three different ways that the ingredient oxybenzone breaks the coral down, robbing it of life-giving nutrients and turning it ghostly white.

Dottie... keep in mind that you're arguing about fucking SUNSCREEN!

We dump sewage, oil, plastic, into the ocean. We destroy fish populations, overhunt everything, tamper with reefs and other ecosystems. We cut down forests, burn fossil fuels, dump nuclear radiation...

But NO! It's fucking SUNSCREEN!!!

Bingo.. Applies to probably 5% or less of strategically significant coral reefs..

"Strategically significant?" Well, reefs were pretty cool and all when they were around I suppose.

- Children 50 years from now

Grumbling curmudgeon.. You're goin down in history with that GWarming jerk-off from East Anglia who said in 2006 or so that "very soon our children will not know what snow looks like"..

We can have annual contests like the Darwin Awards. Except maybe call them the "OldSchool Awards"..

 

[Dante]

more from the study:


How we are all contributing to the destruction of coral reefs: Sunscreen

No way in hell that 14,000 tons of sunscreen land smack dab on coral reefs every year..

Did they compare tourist areas to NON-tourist areas. Not all coral reefs are located in the vicinity of CROWDED beaches.. In fact -- very FEW are....

I think they are over the top on this "theory"...

Theory?

Not only did the study determine that a tiny amount of sunscreen is all it takes to begin damaging the delicate corals — the equivalent of a drop of water in a half-dozen Olympic-sized swimming pools — it documented three different ways that the ingredient oxybenzone breaks the coral down, robbing it of life-giving nutrients and turning it ghostly white.​

You should pay the $30 to read the study then. Because marine biologists are CONSTANTLY putting sea life into 6 foot tanks and assuming they've replicated the daily life of the species.

It IS a theory right now. Unless you have another dozen corroborating studies to share..
And the places they've MEASURED concentrations in actual waters are WAAY different results.

Like I said -- the higher concentrations they found were probably 20 yards from shore -- directly in front of a beach concession renting snorkels and flippers. This DOES NOT (at this moment) get GENERALIZED into the Total solution of dying corals worldwide. Not by ANY stretch..

It's interesting work -- but it simply provokes A BUNCH of unanswered questions..

project much? Come on. You don't like the results so you're reaching.

Wanna comment on what I said? Did you read the abstract? Where do you suppose you find concentrations of some minor element of sunscreen that high? Or can't you think that thru? You think this is the "golden goblet" of truth about demise of coral reefs?

How we are all contributing to the destruction of coral reefs: Sunscreen

The study, released Tuesday, was conducted in the U.S. Virgin Islands and Hawaii several years after a chance encounter between a group of researchers on one of the Caribbean beaches, Trunk Bay, and a vendor waiting for the day’s invasion of tourists. Just wait to see what they’d leave behind, he told the scientists – “a long oil slick.” His comment sparked the idea for the research.

Not only did the study determine that a tiny amount of sunscreen is all it takes to begin damaging the delicate corals — the equivalent of a drop of water in a half-dozen Olympic-sized swimming pools — it documented three different ways that the ingredient oxybenzone breaks the coral down, robbing it of life-giving nutrients and turning it ghostly white.

Research for the new study was conducted only on the two islands. But across the world each year, up to 14,000 tons of sunscreen lotions are discharged into coral reef, and much of it “contains between 1 and 10 percent oxybenzone,” the authors said. They estimate that places at least 10 percent of reefs at risk of high exposure, judging from how reefs are located in popular tourism areas.

Discuss...

**************please familiarize yourself w/ the Environment sub-forum rules before posting mkay thanks

(IOW- NO TROLLING)

What? You mean it isn't global warming as we have all been told for so long? That's funny. Whenever a claim is made for global warming, very soon a real scientist comes along and finds out that it wasn't global warming at all and some other agent.

Thanks for posting this!

How is this relevant to the OP?

I think it's pretty obvious don't you?

nope

 

[Dante]

Amazing to me how much common sense has to be linked for the peanut gallery.

Be a Coral Hero

It’s estimated that 4-6 thousand metric tons of sunscreen wind up in the ocean each year in reef environments, and it’s especially concentrated in snorkel spots. If you use sunscreen, look for natural brands that don’t have parabens, cinnamate, benzophenone, and camphor derivatives. Better yet, throw on a light colored tee-shirt or rash guard to protect yourself from those UV rays instead.


Why is critical thinking so difficult for you?? MOST people get this. There's 2 of the assertions I've made. And doubt those folks are exceptionally brilliant...

you're slowly losing it here. My eyes and head hurt from trying to read you pots. Dang, you evil doer!

 

[TheOldSchool]

Wanna comment on what I said? Did you read the abstract? Where do you suppose you find concentrations of some minor element of sunscreen that high? Or can't you think that thru? You think this is the "golden goblet" of truth about demise of coral reefs?

you said concentrations and I supplied this from my source,which Dante also ref'd:

the equivalent of a drop of water in a half-dozen Olympic-sized swimming pools — it documented three different ways that the ingredient oxybenzone breaks the coral down, robbing it of life-giving nutrients and turning it ghostly white.

Dottie... keep in mind that you're arguing about fucking SUNSCREEN!

We dump sewage, oil, plastic, into the ocean. We destroy fish populations, overhunt everything, tamper with reefs and other ecosystems. We cut down forests, burn fossil fuels, dump nuclear radiation...

But NO! It's fucking SUNSCREEN!!!

Bingo.. Applies to probably 5% or less of strategically significant coral reefs..

"Strategically significant?" Well, reefs were pretty cool and all when they were around I suppose.

- Children 50 years from now

Grumbling curmudgeon.. You're goin down in history with that GWarming jerk-off from East Anglia who said in 2006 or so that "very soon our children will not know what snow looks like"..

We can have annual contests like the Darwin Awards. Except maybe call them the "OldSchool Awards"..

Yeah probably a long time ago some conservative asshole was laughing at someone who said his kids would never see a Passenger Pigeon.