Who Was The Beast Of The Book Of Revelation?

[rylah]

Rome is not Esau. Esau is the father of the Edomites who were forcibly converted to Judaism in 126 BC.

So Esau (that is, Edom) settled in the hill country of Seir. This is the account of the family line of Esau the father of the Edomites in the hill country of Seir.

So read a little about Rome's own stories of foundation.
Rome, the city itself, was Esau - not symbolically.

 

[surada]

So read a little about Rome's own stories of foundation.
Rome, the city itself, is Esau not symbolically.

The foundational story of Rome is that Romulus and Remus were nursed by a wolf. Everyone knows that, but it hasn't got a damned thing to do with Esau or the Edomites. You aren't able to admit you were simply wrong.

Esau was the brother of Jacob the liar. Had NOTHING to do with Rome.

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The Edomites

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At the fall of the First Temple, the Edomites attacked Judah and looted the Temple, accelerating its destruction. The Edomites were later forcibly converted into Judaism by John Hyrcanus, and then became an active part of the Jewish people. Famous Edomites include Herod, who built the Second Temple.

 

[rylah]

The foundational story of Rome is that Romulus and Remus were nursed by a wolf. Everyone knows that, but it hasn't got a damned thing to do with Esau or the Edomites. You aren't able to admit you were simply wrong.

Esau was the brother of Jacob the liar. Had NOTHING to do with Rome.

The Edomites - Jewish Virtual Library

The Edomites

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

At the fall of the First Temple, the Edomites attacked Judah and looted the Temple, accelerating its destruction. The Edomites were later forcibly converted into Judaism by John Hyrcanus, and then became an active part of the Jewish people. Famous Edomites include Herod, who built the Second Temple.

If I remember exactly,
there're 5 foundation stories in Rome,
For a reason both associate it with Edomites.

Google some more if you're really interested in a discussion, or open a thread...

 

[rylah]

When you have the context, you start to capture the long term essence of that clash,
no matter what version you prefer - because it will be about your collective,
that which you asked how Israel reforms Islam.

Esau and Ishmael...Josephus and Ka'ab...

the story that you should know

 

[surada]

If I remember correctly,
there're 5 foundation stories in Rome,

Google some more if you're really interested.

You brought up the foundtional myth of Rome to divert the conversation from your claim that Esau was Rome.

Romulus and Remus - Wikipedia

Romulus and Remus - Wikipedia

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In Roman mythology, Romulus and Remus are twin brothers whose story tells the events that led to the founding of the city of Rome and the Roman Kingdom by Romulus. The killing of Remus by his twin, along with other tales from their story, have inspired artists throughout the ages. Since ancient times, the image of a she-wolf suckling the twins has been a symbol of the city of Rome and the ancient R…

 

[surada]

When you have the context, you start to capture the long term essence of that clash,
no matter what version you prefer - because it will be about your collective,
that which you asked how Israel reforms Islam.

Esau and Ishmael...Josephus and Ka'ab...

the story that you should know

LOLOL.. I never asked or suggested that Israel reforms Islam. You're a worm.

 

[rylah]

You brought up the foundtional myth of Rome to divert the conversation from your claim that Esau was Rome.

Romulus and Remus - Wikipedia

Romulus and Remus - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In Roman mythology, Romulus and Remus are twin brothers whose story tells the events that led to the founding of the city of Rome and the Roman Kingdom by Romulus. The killing of Remus by his twin, along with other tales from their story, have inspired artists throughout the ages. Since ancient times, the image of a she-wolf suckling the twins has been a symbol of the city of Rome and the ancient R…

Yes, but that's just one of them, one of five foundation sotries.
there's a reason they both talk of it as an Edomite city.

 

[rylah]

LOLOL.. I never asked or suggested that Israel reforms Islam. You're a worm.

That you're going into personal attack mode
reveals a weakness in your argument, and you know it.
After all we've already done it, Christianity and Islam were a preparation.

Long term, humanity doesn't step backwards but forward.
So why are you getting so stressed about the idea?

 

[justinacolmena]

Maybe indirectly. It was Rome.

The other one was Judea. The old Jerusalem was the beast that needed to be defeated for the sake of the new Jerusalem.

Did you come up with this yourself or read somewhere?
This partially recalls of a specific conversation between
a Roman general and a Jewish sage, only partially

Maybe you need a Jewish warrior. King David whose firstborn child with Bath-Sheba died of a botched circumcision and they called him an adulterer because the covenant of the cutting of the flesh allegedly failed on him. David wouldn't allow his other sons, Absalom and Solomon, to be circumcised. They lynched Absalom as a homosexual and hanged him in an oak tree, and slandered Solomon as a womanizer, but he got away with the Queen of Sheba.

 

[Aletheia4u]

Rome was one of the heads of the beast that was wounded but not destroyed. But that head was healed and came back to power during the time around the Spanish inquisition. That it had taken control of the church preaching a false gospel and deceiving and killing many.

But Martin Luther translated the scriptures that the beast was trying to have him killed and others that translated the scriptures in different tongues.

But the beast never lost its power, but instead it rested waiting for another proper time to attack God's people.



But the witch hunted during the early colony. Those were real witches that were trying to take over the new colony. Spreading their false doctrines again. And they have used false flags tactics on the new colonists by killing innocent people by claiming they were witches so that everyone will look upon them as true men of God.

That they were trying to make a one religion to get everyone to follow so that they can manipulate minds of the masses. But the Constitution has gotten in their way allowing every individual to be able to preach what they have discerned from the scriptures.

But now the beast has manifested into the eighth but still it is the seventh but evolved. But this time it was given power.

 

[surada]

If I remember exactly,
there're 5 foundation stories in Rome,
For a reason both associate it with Edomites.

Google some more if you're really interested in a discussion, or open a thread...

Nope. The Edomites were forcibly converted to Judaism.

 

[surada]

Yes, but that's just one of them, one of five foundation sotries.
there's a reason they both talk of it as an Edomite city.

You must be thinking of Petra or Ma'dain Salah.

 

[Aletheia4u]

Example of double symbolism.

 

[surada]

When you have the context, you start to capture the long term essence of that clash,
no matter what version you prefer - because it will be about your collective,
that which you asked how Israel reforms Islam.

Esau and Ishmael...Josephus and Ka'ab...

the story that you should know

Esau's brother was Jacob.. Ishmael was Abraham's son by Hagar.

 

[surada]

Maybe indirectly. It was Rome.

The other one was Judea. The old Jerusalem was the beast that needed to be defeated for the sake of the new Jerusalem.

The mark of the beast wasn't voluntary.

 

[surada]

It's the seventeenth chapter of Revelation.

REVELATION 17:3 KJV So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured...

Revelation 17:3 KJV: So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

www.kingjamesbibleonline.org

The Beast is the Catholic Church.

REVELATION 17:9 KJV And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

Revelation 17:9 KJV: And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

www.kingjamesbibleonline.org

The seven heads of the beast are said to be the seven hills of Rome.

REVELATION 17:18 KJV And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

Revelation 17:18 KJV: And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

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The woman is the gun-grabbing Vatican, the City of Rome, Italy, and the jurisdictions of cities and counties throughout the world, which enforce Satanic protocols of circumcision and vaccination, routine removal of teeth, tonsils, and appendices, involuntary mental health and psychiatric care.

The Whore of Babylon was Israel. Read your OT prophets.

 

[Aletheia4u]

 

[surada]

So read a little about Rome's own stories of foundation.
Rome, the city itself, was Esau - not symbolically.

This is really dumb. The Edomites (Esau) were converted to Judaism in 126 BC.. Herod was an Edomite Jew. His granddaughter, Beatrice, was the mistress of Titus. So the Whore of Babylon of Rev 17:18 is a double play on words.

 

[Aletheia4u]

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[Aletheia4u]

And the beast will try to bring back the good ol' days.